Well, here we go into standard again, with the spoiling of Teysa Karlov, the third one of her, and the second you can play without looking dumb (not that I didn't try to make B/W Reanimator in RtR/Theros)
Her death triggers are meant for afterlife, and Elenda in particular, with Divine Visitation being the card to finish the job.
Gameplan is to try and establish early value and damage through forcing the opponent into bad trades. Once Elenda comes down, we can make better use of Pontiff and Final Payment to make things difficult. DV finishes the job be burying the opponent in board advantage. If things go badly early game, we run enough removal to stabilize.
Vona's is to give more ways to deal with Hexproof, Mavren Fein provides a better token generation against slower decks, CC deals with problematic enchantments, VC is our go to Planeswalker removal.
I think the deck can be improved, so any input would be appreciated.
You don't call "dying to removal" if the removal is more expensive in resources than the creature. If you have to spend BG (Abrupt Decay), or W + basic land (PtE) to remove a 1G, that is not "dying to removal". Strictly speaking Goyf dies to removal, but actually your removal is dying to Goyf.
wouldn't abzan be a better one to try? it has a few token generating spells and has the one pump spell that blows people out. ontop of better enchantment hate and have things like vraska, golgari queen assassin's trophy and adds more versatility with your sideboard and main board.
plus you get probably the best token spell that has probably been made in March of the multitudes.
divine visitation is solid and all but you are building your deck around it which means the deck probably falls short without it and if you fall behind it can just become dead.
wouldn't abzan be a better one to try? it has a few token generating spells and has the one pump spell that blows people out. ontop of better enchantment hate and have things like vraska, golgari queen assassin's trophy and adds more versatility with your sideboard and main board.
plus you get probably the best token spell that has probably been made in March of the multitudes.
divine visitation is solid and all but you are building your deck around it which means the deck probably falls short without it and if you fall behind it can just become dead.
Abzan tokens would probably be stronger, but it would be an entirely different deck since Elenda, Teysa, and DV wouldn't really have a place in it.
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You don't call "dying to removal" if the removal is more expensive in resources than the creature. If you have to spend BG (Abrupt Decay), or W + basic land (PtE) to remove a 1G, that is not "dying to removal". Strictly speaking Goyf dies to removal, but actually your removal is dying to Goyf.
elenda and tesya would be fine and you would just have to reduce divine visitation copies.
that was partly my arguement that you've but to much around visitation and if you dont de one it seems like you'd be kinda silly dallying without it
Running Abzan, most of the afterlife trigger dudes would be pointless since G/W has much better token generation making Teysa pointless outside her token pump (which G/W also does better). Without Teysa, Elenda loses a lot of luster as well.
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You don't call "dying to removal" if the removal is more expensive in resources than the creature. If you have to spend BG (Abrupt Decay), or W + basic land (PtE) to remove a 1G, that is not "dying to removal". Strictly speaking Goyf dies to removal, but actually your removal is dying to Goyf.
Won game 1 off the back of Elenda and Teysa interactions. Buried my opponent under 20 tokens when I sacrificed one Elenda with 10 counter to the other post combat.
Lost game 2. Too much spot removal for the control match. Mortify felt really dead in hand at times. Using it to clear away Karn tokens doesn't feel good. Never saw a Kaya's Wrath, which hurt late game. DV landed and did wonders with Legion's Landing, but I lost the attrition war.
Lost game 3. I boarded in Contempt, but my only attempt was countered, leaving Teferi to dominate.
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"I hope to have such a death... lying in triumph atop the broken bodies of those who slew me..."
You don't call "dying to removal" if the removal is more expensive in resources than the creature. If you have to spend BG (Abrupt Decay), or W + basic land (PtE) to remove a 1G, that is not "dying to removal". Strictly speaking Goyf dies to removal, but actually your removal is dying to Goyf.
You don't call "dying to removal" if the removal is more expensive in resources than the creature. If you have to spend BG (Abrupt Decay), or W + basic land (PtE) to remove a 1G, that is not "dying to removal". Strictly speaking Goyf dies to removal, but actually your removal is dying to Goyf.
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Her death triggers are meant for afterlife, and Elenda in particular, with Divine Visitation being the card to finish the job.
4x Hunted Witness
3x Elenda, the Dusk Rose
2x Imperious Oligarch
3x Ministrant of Obligation
3x Orzhov Enforcer
3x Pitiless Ponitff
2x Seraph of the Scales
3x Teysa Karlov
3x Kaya's Wrath
4x Final Payment
3x Mortify
3x Costly Plunder
Enchantments (6)
3x Legion's Landing
3x Divine Visitation
4x Godless Shrine
4x Isolated Chapel
4x Plains
2x Memorial to Glory
4x Swamp
Gameplan is to try and establish early value and damage through forcing the opponent into bad trades. Once Elenda comes down, we can make better use of Pontiff and Final Payment to make things difficult. DV finishes the job be burying the opponent in board advantage. If things go badly early game, we run enough removal to stabilize.
4x Vona's Hunger
4x Mavren Fein, Dusk Apostle
3x Crush Contraband
3x Vraska's Contempt
1x Kaya's Wrath
Vona's is to give more ways to deal with Hexproof, Mavren Fein provides a better token generation against slower decks, CC deals with problematic enchantments, VC is our go to Planeswalker removal.
I think the deck can be improved, so any input would be appreciated.
"I hope to have such a death... lying in triumph atop the broken bodies of those who slew me..."
plus you get probably the best token spell that has probably been made in March of the multitudes.
divine visitation is solid and all but you are building your deck around it which means the deck probably falls short without it and if you fall behind it can just become dead.
Abzan tokens would probably be stronger, but it would be an entirely different deck since Elenda, Teysa, and DV wouldn't really have a place in it.
"I hope to have such a death... lying in triumph atop the broken bodies of those who slew me..."
that was partly my arguement that you've but to much around visitation and if you dont de one it seems like you'd be kinda silly dallying without it
Running Abzan, most of the afterlife trigger dudes would be pointless since G/W has much better token generation making Teysa pointless outside her token pump (which G/W also does better). Without Teysa, Elenda loses a lot of luster as well.
"I hope to have such a death... lying in triumph atop the broken bodies of those who slew me..."
Won game 1 off the back of Elenda and Teysa interactions. Buried my opponent under 20 tokens when I sacrificed one Elenda with 10 counter to the other post combat.
Lost game 2. Too much spot removal for the control match. Mortify felt really dead in hand at times. Using it to clear away Karn tokens doesn't feel good. Never saw a Kaya's Wrath, which hurt late game. DV landed and did wonders with Legion's Landing, but I lost the attrition war.
Lost game 3. I boarded in Contempt, but my only attempt was countered, leaving Teferi to dominate.
"I hope to have such a death... lying in triumph atop the broken bodies of those who slew me..."
-1 Swamp
-1 Plains
-1 Divine Visitation
+3 Costly Plunder
The land count is actually hurting more than helping, and Costly has been helpful in getting some more card advantage while keeping tempo.
"I hope to have such a death... lying in triumph atop the broken bodies of those who slew me..."