I just wanted to play a white weenie deck. Are there better card choices? And i'm trying to make it post rotation, so that I can actually play it for a year.
I just wanted to play a white weenie deck. Are there better card choices? And i'm trying to make it post rotation, so that I can actually play it for a year.
I think when core comes out I'll try Mentor of the Meek and the new Spirit grave hate
Between Militia Bugler and Mentor of the Meek, go with the former for WW. It has a better body, immediate effect, and most of the creatures being played have 2 or less power. Mentor is good in grinders like Oketra's Monument or Desecrated Tomb style decks, where the objective is to outlast the opponent until they can't do anything. classic White Weenie wants to just turn things sideways and swing in.
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Thanks for the input. Would any Vanilla 3/1 creatures like Raptor Companion be of any use?
Don't use bad cards. Even in limited, a 3/1 vanilla is not a first pick the majority of the time. The best two drops always have some keyword ability or effect. Right now with Goblin Chainwhirler I prefer cards like Cavalry Drillmaster or Aethergeode Miner. Drillmaster works really well with Adorned Pouncer.
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Nothing against the OPs deck.... White Weenie was the deck that helped me out from under U control...
Is "White Weenie" still actually a thing? I get a lot of blank stares from other players when I slip up and mention "Weenie" as a deck. These are the same players who have never heard of Black Summer, become gobsmacked when I explain what Tabernacle does and think Stasis is way too over powered.
Lol its funny you say that. we are just old. i only hear the "weenie" term used for white.
I do think white weenie is good tho. mentor AND bugler seem like auto includes.
colt47: I also dont think Aethergeode miner gets around goblin chainwhirler tho. He hits the field, ability triggers, you then blink him just in time for him to come back and still take 1 dmg. Because its worldly like a wrath, he'll still just die when he comes back.
There's the lifelink cat deck that's doing some damage. And probably the best way to take this deck since you can do other things besides just swing in with cheap expendable creatures
Tbh, the cat deck is real bad. No card advantage at all. can just chop em down 1 at a time and it folds to b/u. white weenie can get so much value from mentor and bugler or even the monument.
Lol its funny you say that. we are just old. i only hear the "weenie" term used for white.
I do think white weenie is good tho. mentor AND bugler seem like auto includes.
colt47: I also dont think Aethergeode miner gets around goblin chainwhirler tho. He hits the field, ability triggers, you then blink him just in time for him to come back and still take 1 dmg. Because its worldly like a wrath, he'll still just die when he comes back.
Well crap, I just noticed it isn't until end of turn. Well, you can't win them all.
I've been toying with so many complex ideas lately that I think keeping it clean and simple is the best route to go forward with in standard. That is what white weenie and green stompy are good at.
I think people misunderstand white weenie and think it is an aggro deck like mono red. It actually plays a bit more close to the mid game and likes to out value faster decks such as mono red. Usually it does this by life gain and boost like soul sisters. The big weakness of the deck is sweepers and just running out of gas. That and individually, white weenie creatures are not particularly good against fatties and big dudes like in green stompy.
Private Mod Note
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Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
I ran the aethergeode miner in my SB for a long time. He definitely blanks removal and makes blocking a pita. I'm still a fan if you are running into a lot of U/B or mono-B
The SB can also use some improvements like removal for the big midrange/green fatties like Thopter Arrest/Fairgrounds Warden which I'd prefer to Baffling End/Gideon's Reproach and also Dusk // Dawn as I'd like to avoid 4-mana spells in this deck.
I also like Authority of the Consuls here to make blocking difficult and help race other aggro decks.
Another SB option can be Gideon of the Trials which can either stop a big threat, slow down a combo deck with the emblem or help fight through removal against control decks.
1 Arch of Orazca
2 Scavenger Grounds
1 Field of Ruin
4 Benalish Marshal
4 skymarcher Aspirant
4 Dauntless Bodyguard
4 Adanto Vanguard
4 Knight of Grace
4 Martyr of Dusk
2 Pride of Conquerors
3 Baffling End
2 Seal Away
2 Ixalan's Binding
I think when core comes out I'll try Mentor of the Meek and the new Spirit grave hate
Modern Tallowisp Spirits - A Modern Tallowisp Deck UW
Eldrazi Ninjas - Summoning Octopus Jutsu YYYYAAAHHHH!
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Naban Wizards
Between Militia Bugler and Mentor of the Meek, go with the former for WW. It has a better body, immediate effect, and most of the creatures being played have 2 or less power. Mentor is good in grinders like Oketra's Monument or Desecrated Tomb style decks, where the objective is to outlast the opponent until they can't do anything. classic White Weenie wants to just turn things sideways and swing in.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Modern Tallowisp Spirits - A Modern Tallowisp Deck UW
Eldrazi Ninjas - Summoning Octopus Jutsu YYYYAAAHHHH!
STANDARD
Naban Wizards
Don't use bad cards. Even in limited, a 3/1 vanilla is not a first pick the majority of the time. The best two drops always have some keyword ability or effect. Right now with Goblin Chainwhirler I prefer cards like Cavalry Drillmaster or Aethergeode Miner. Drillmaster works really well with Adorned Pouncer.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Is "White Weenie" still actually a thing? I get a lot of blank stares from other players when I slip up and mention "Weenie" as a deck. These are the same players who have never heard of Black Summer, become gobsmacked when I explain what Tabernacle does and think Stasis is way too over powered.
Isn't the correct archetype Aggro now?
I do think white weenie is good tho. mentor AND bugler seem like auto includes.
colt47: I also dont think Aethergeode miner gets around goblin chainwhirler tho. He hits the field, ability triggers, you then blink him just in time for him to come back and still take 1 dmg. Because its worldly like a wrath, he'll still just die when he comes back.
Modern Tallowisp Spirits - A Modern Tallowisp Deck UW
Eldrazi Ninjas - Summoning Octopus Jutsu YYYYAAAHHHH!
STANDARD
Naban Wizards
Well crap, I just noticed it isn't until end of turn. Well, you can't win them all.
I've been toying with so many complex ideas lately that I think keeping it clean and simple is the best route to go forward with in standard. That is what white weenie and green stompy are good at.
I think people misunderstand white weenie and think it is an aggro deck like mono red. It actually plays a bit more close to the mid game and likes to out value faster decks such as mono red. Usually it does this by life gain and boost like soul sisters. The big weakness of the deck is sweepers and just running out of gas. That and individually, white weenie creatures are not particularly good against fatties and big dudes like in green stompy.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
It has some odd cards choices though which I'm not a fan of like: Trial of Solidarity, Baffling End and Ajani's Pridemate (doesn't grow consistently enough).
Instead I'd go with: 4x Benalish Marshal and 4x Servo Exhibition (good for going wide and reaching Ascend).
The SB can also use some improvements like removal for the big midrange/green fatties like Thopter Arrest/Fairgrounds Warden which I'd prefer to Baffling End/Gideon's Reproach and also Dusk // Dawn as I'd like to avoid 4-mana spells in this deck.
I also like Authority of the Consuls here to make blocking difficult and help race other aggro decks.
Another SB option can be Gideon of the Trials which can either stop a big threat, slow down a combo deck with the emblem or help fight through removal against control decks.
Another direction to go with the deck is to add some artifact synergy with Scrapheap Scrounger and Toolcraft Exemplar replacing Adanto Vanguard and Snubhorn Sentry.
Though I'm sure if Scrapheap and Exhibition are enough to support Toolcraft without adding more artifacts
(Bomat Courier, Heart of Kiran).