Quote from Greyimp »It would be great for the prices to nose dive but right now it's the power cards that are appearing with high frequency in decks.
FNM showed me a dude with 4 Karn, at least 2 Lyra and 4 Benalia in a mono white deck. Have to say dealing with Karn repeatedly is devastating.
The price of standard has been high and it gets worse now that standard numbers are low. Barely fired and that was only because some employees 'joined in' so we could have standard that night. Modern still strong with 30+.
Something beyond the consumer's control needs to be done to reign things in a bit. People still shrug and say 'Karn will play in Modern' and just accept the price tag. Not great for inducting new people or getting players to return. That's my concern.
Control IS doing well again and look at the UW lists. Karn, Teferi, History of Benalia, Lyra are all there together or some variation of them. Hell the mono white tokens had them all except Teferi. You can't recruit people to play standard when the cost to play is this high and the options to play without these monsters is lackluster. Even Red Deck wins, which traditionally hasn't been the highest priced deck out there is pretty pricey if you max it out with Phoenix and Hazoret. Instead we get a 2H giant set.
Quote from BlueTronFTW »Walking Ballista just went over $20 on TCG. WTF?! Okay, I was tempted to look at standard since there was deck diversity, but I just can't justify it. I can't spend $300 on a deck for four months of play.
Quote from Legend »I hope I'm in the right place for this post. If not, please move it to the right place.
Am I reading this right? Seven of of the top eight decks of PTD are R/b? Isn't this a strong indicator that Standard is not diverse and that WotC's bannings are irrelevant? I mean, what's the difference if a mechanic (energy) dominates a format or a single color dominates a format? It's still being dominated by a singular aspect! As much as I like Dominaria, neither it nor WotC's cringy bannings have fixed the format. It's very frustrating. Am I alone on this?
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Quote from Billiondegree »When Disallow is a 4-of in most of the control lists, I don't think counterspell needs to be printed in standard.
I wish nothing was banned in standard except for Aetherworks Marvel. I think then we would have a very interesting format where you can play Temur energy, 4 color energy, Saheeli Jeskai, 4 color Saheeli, BG constrictor, Sultai constrictor, mono red, red-black, mardu vehicles, UW control, UB control, BW Benalia and so forth
Quote from Colt47 » There is a need to get the game back to it's roots of deck building as the culture around the game has been too heavily influenced by the tournament play.
Quote from caesar_16 »I have a question about some reprints. do you think it would be ok to reprint counterspell in standard?
I asking this because people always say that counterspell and similar cards deemed to powerful for standard, but then wizards prints reflector mage, chainwhirler, hazoret, chupacabba and other similar cards and they seem fine (reflector mage was fine up to some point).llanowar elf and lightning strike were also deemed to powerful in the past but they are fine, powerful but fine.
I started to play standard since dominaria, but I'm still curious about the general opinion
Quote from lugger »Quote from Colt47 » There is a need to get the game back to it's roots of deck building as the culture around the game has been too heavily influenced by the tournament play.
This is actually the main complaint people have about netdeckers, it's just that they never can actually verbalize it.
Frankly, your sentence should be some sort of input field as we see "darn netdeckers and darn meta hindering my brewing" rather often.
They can't, in turn, verbalize that the issue isn't with the cards printed -- it's with the culture.
Culture is a very difficult thing to change.
Best of luck.
Quote from SmauG »I hope i'm in the right subforum here Let's talk removal for a second.
Top decks in pro level competitive play have gone down in copies of Vraska's Contempt as the threats have moved away from Gods and all that.
Though on FNM level play with no knowledge of what to expect in terms of meta, would people still prefer Vraska's Contempt over any other destroy target creature/planeswalker effect? If so, why?
At the moment, i'm trying to descide if an extra copy of Vraska's Contempt main is worth it over damage based removal spell. 3/3 in favour of 4/2.
Edit: FWIW, i'm a brewer and i have a fairly competitive brew, though i dont play standard on FNM level at all.
Quote from Stille_Nacht »I've just started dipping my toes into standard again, and I'm not really feeling this "metagame diversity" that others in this thread seem to be seeing.
Suggests that there are a total of 3 viable decks, 2 of which are almost copies of each other :/. Did the other decks just get unlucky? Where did BG constrictor go?
Quote from javert »It's lolworthy how some store site writers are still shilling for the format. "Standard isn't as narrow as it looks", "Standard isn't a 1-deck format". Maybe if they say it enough times we might have a top 8 with less than 16 Chainwhirlers (not that I think the card is busted, merely that it is the marker of MonoR and RB).
Admittedly, some have advocated for a ban although it's unclear whether WotC is open to do another banning or is just waiting for the rotation along everyone else. Personally, Ixalan becoming a bigger portion of the format sounds awful, luckily Dominaria, C19 and Ravnica feature enough good cards to not having to touch it with a 10 foot pole save maybe for Sorcerous Spyglass.
Quote from AUTUMNTWILIGHT »The Red Menace continues. Granted they can probably just wait for rotation. But really Green needs help. No one is playing it and that is pretty massive failing. White is not doing much hotter as Teferi chips in almost all the White. But White is usually limping around like a cripple.
Quote from idSurge »When was the last diverse Standard, Khans?