I would play this format if it allowed Revised. You should do so for three reasons:
1) The format's name is 93/94 and Revised was released in April '94
2) Revised looks old school as hell, even moreso than Alpha/Beta/Unlimited, due to the faded colors
3) Most people's duals are Revised and they'll never go through the time and big $ to get Unlimited ones
I would also add Fallen Empires because it was released in November '94 and Hymn to Tourach is awesome for oldschool black, but the set is really bad.
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Basically you play a creatureless draw-go control deck that eventually wins by making infinite mana with Power Artifact + Basalt Monolith. Unfortunately, since Braingeyser is restricted, the deck splashes red for Fireball as the primary kill. Sideboard is colour hosing and aggro hosing. Singleton Rocket Launcher as plan B in case the opponent sides in too much anti-red stuff to beat Fireball, and also because infinite Rocket Launcher is just hilarious.
Thoughts/suggestions? I thought about going up to 4 Power Artifact / 4 Monolith / 4 Fireball, but I feel like that would just give you too many dead cards too often. Without tutors or draw fixing, you probably need to just stall out and control the game before trying to assemble the combo.
Interest in this format has really picked up recently. The eternal central oldschool event that happened recently was pretty huge. It's important to note that some groups and events like this ARE allowing revised and chronicles (take a look at the White Weenie deck by Trevor Hayden that looks like it's mostly revised), but most events follow the same ban list and have mana drain restricted. (The Eternal Central event allowed 4 strip mine but drain was still restricted) Just heads up on that one. If you want more than 5 counterspells you need to play power sink or the elemental blasts. If you're going all in on control with a combo finish, maybe consider Jayemdae Tome for card advantage while playing draw-go, and possibly Amnesia to help you get to the point where you feel 'safe' casting combo cards. Mishra's Factory is also one of the best lands in the format, so maybe consider that as an alternate win condition.
Also check out this video of Randy Buehler talking about the deck he brought to Eternal Weekend. In it he discusses why he thought splashing black for the Abyss was good for a creatureless control deck (instead of just running moat). I think four swords might be enough personally but he has a valid argument, and it's a good deck tech.
(This video is on the page I linked before, but there's so much content on there, it's worth pointing out in case you didn't see it).
Also it seems like power sink gains a lot of power in your deck anyway with the mana rocks like Basalt Monolith. Sure it's not as good as Mana Drain, but it does tap them down.
Do you guys use the most recent rules and errata, or the rules and errata as they existed in '94? I feel like the former is more intuitive but the latter is more period-accurate (and that's the whole point of the format, really).
It would also be neat if we could find some way to make Contract from Below playable without resorting to ante, since it is hella 93/94 in terms of flavor. What if it was errata'd to the following, sort of like Chaos Orb:
Contract from Below
B
Sorcery
Discard your hand. Exile the top card of your library. Target opponent may cast that card until end of turn without paying its mana cost. Then, draw seven cards.
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I don't think contract from below could ever be fixed (It's too broken). If you want to play it, you need to convince someone to play ante, and of course both players will be playing it. Five color allows it, but I haven't actually played a game of that (the concept of a 300 card deck is intimidating). I have played games for ante though, just not in a long time.
What is everyone using as a Banned and Restricted list? I get different vibes from what was allowed at eternal weekend and what is posted on the 93/94 site. Namely 4x strip mines and 4x black vises at eternal weekend.
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It's probably going to vary based on where you are playing and who you are playing with. It's a casual format after all. There's no strict "rules committee" like in commander, check out the facebook groups and see what other people are playing.
What does anoyone think of citanul druid against artifacts? Also imprison seems like another good black creature disabler with paralyze being conditional and terror being poor against black decks.
I would play this format if it allowed Revised. You should do so for three reasons:
1) The format's name is 93/94 and Revised was released in April '94
2) Revised looks old school as hell, even moreso than Alpha/Beta/Unlimited, due to the faded colors
3) Most people's duals are Revised and they'll never go through the time and big $ to get Unlimited ones
I would also add Fallen Empires because it was released in November '94 and Hymn to Tourach is awesome for oldschool black, but the set is really bad.
I think this is one of my little "peeves" about this format - you'd think in a format oriented around Magic as it was (largely) in those years, all the sets created in those years would be allowed. So what if it allows more people into the format (one commenters on the blog linked to in the OP seemed critical of the idea - I have no idea why, though I got the impression it was because he felt threatened so far as the exclusiveness and blingyness of the format was concerned), for those who want to bling out their decks/can afford to use expensive cards, great, the inclusion of those two sets does NOT hinder that in any ways.
I think this is one of my little "peeves" about this format - you'd think in a format oriented around Magic as it was (largely) in those years, all the sets created in those years would be allowed. So what if it allows more people into the format (one commenters on the blog linked to in the OP seemed critical of the idea - I have no idea why, though I got the impression it was because he felt threatened so far as the exclusiveness and blingyness of the format was concerned), for those who want to bling out their decks/can afford to use expensive cards, great, the inclusion of those two sets does NOT hinder that in any ways.
The guys from Sweden that started the format are really hardcore about what sets they want to allow. However this is a casual format, and from what I've seen most people are happy just to be able to play it, and won't care too much if you're using a newer edition in your deck. I've seen several events that allowed Chronicles or Revised for example, and a friend of mine convinced his local store to run an event, but they allowed Fallen Empires and editions all the way up to 4th edition. Basically what I'm saying is that it's a casual format, you should treat it as such. If you can't afford original City of Brass, no one is likely to give you too much of a hard time about running a white bordered one, but please at least use the old art. Part of the appeal of the format is the nostalgia and the desire to play with classic cards. Your modern bordered Serra Angel isn't 'classic', but you can probably pick up revised editions for a quarter, and still get the basic feel of the format and build a deck. If you like that deck though, consider making it officially legal or "pimped out" a long term project. In the end though what sets are actually allowed are going to be determined by where you are able to find games. If you want to play this format against your friends or at your local store, talk to them and see what versions of cards they think are ok.
Again I'm also going to point out the deck lists from the huge Eternal Central event. This was the largest recent event for the format, and the decks include all sorts of things that would not be legal based on the main blog, but they were allowed and I'm pretty sure everyone there had a great time.
What does anoyone think of citanul druid against artifacts? Also imprison seems like another good black creature disabler with paralyze being conditional and terror being poor against black decks.
I like the druids, but I think Argothian Pixies are probably better if you have them. They block Mishra's Factories all day, and are solid against non-artifact decks (main deck).
The difference I see with Imprison vs Paralyze is that one ties up your mana, and the other ties up their mana. If you're going to be using your own mana to tap things, why not just run Icy Manipulator? Paralyze also taps the creature when it is cast, so it's not that conditional, it just makes them invest more resources to keep using that creature. (Unless it's a serra angel, then they just untap it once and keep beating you down). I would think though that if you're running cards like paralyze you're also going to want to aggressively use cards like sinkhole, strip mine and possibly even Chaos Orb to try and keep them off the four mana all together. If you're looking for good removal vs a black deck, you may want to try Oubliette, just be wary of City in a Bottle.
In of itself hardcore is not bad, but it certainly does kinda make people shy away when people commenting get treated to a hostile reply by others, as if being at least a little critical to a format, or aspect of a format (even constructively) is akin to setting off a nuclear weapon or something. ~_~ If these guys want the format to survive, some of them need to calm their bits a little.
In of itself hardcore is not bad, but it certainly does kinda make people shy away when people commenting get treated to a hostile reply by others, as if being at least a little critical to a format, or aspect of a format (even constructively) is akin to setting off a nuclear weapon or something. ~_~ If these guys want the format to survive, some of them need to calm their bits a little.
Honestly, I rarely ever read the comments. People tend to get really opinionated on the internet and they spew forth their opinions pretty openly. Don't let the negative people discourage you from trying this format. It's a lot of fun, and even if you can't find many people that are willing to build decks, you could build multiple budget decks (think Revised white weenie or kird apes) and loan them one or build one decent deck and play it against something more modern. I've blown up a hexproof spirit with a chaos orb. It can be really interesting to jam oldschool vs more modern casual decks. I don't really care too much about winning or what my opponent is playing if they let me play my sweet old cards. Channel + Fireball doesn't happen often enough for anyone to get too salty about it. Besides, many of those cards are still staples. I can play my oldschool bolts or my oldschool tron lands in a modern deck if I wanted to.
I will say also that I think this format will survive, because the people that play it are really dedicated to it. Every time I visit one of the oldschool blogs, I feel compelled to sell ALL my modern stuff and buy more old cards. EVERY TIME. I just see pictures, and I'm like WOW, Enchantress with multiple fastbond looks so broken... Chaos orb with Guardian Beast looks so fun... There are just so many things you can do in this format that you just can't do in other formats. Do I really need these Chalice of the Voids, or this Engineered explosives... or this Bloodstained Mire?
If you check out the recent article on the BSK event they bring up another interesting point, and that is the people playing in that event played the ENTIRE event. Which means they are having fun.
That's during round six of the BSK tournament. Of the 55 players in the tournament, pretty much none has dropped. People are playing at the 0-5 table.
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No trashtalk about being exclusive or too casual. In Borås, the #mtgunderground is well respected. Here, the grinders, the EDH crew, the FNM casuals and the 93/94 players embrace their differences in a greater community. It's a good place to play Magic.
This really seems like a good community. It has been getting a lot of attention lately, and people are treating it like it's a new thing, but this has been around for years.
I stumbled upon the Old School format awhile back when I was brainstorming my own casual format using old cards. I think the Swede's did a good job of developing it.
I'm currently trying to build a few different decks. I love the old White Weenie deck, as it was the first type of deck I remember having any success with. I even won my first Vintage tournament many years ago with a version running borrowed Savannah Lions. Now I own Beta copies and this format gave me the reason to do so.
I also think the related white-based decks are pretty cool, such as White Weenie with Burn, TaxEdge, and ErhnamGeddon. Mono Black and Underworld Dreams decks are super sweet. First turn Dark Ritual into Hypnotic Specter remains one of my all-time favorite sequences. I'm glad there's a format that will still let me do that.
I'm pretty close to finishing up my White Weenie deck. It's taken years to gather all these cards. I only need:
1 Tundra Wolves (I think I have this somewhere, so I might just have to find it.)
1 Pendelhaven
4 Plains (With the art not pictured. Two should already be in the mail.)
Also, sadly one Armageddon might be re-backed CE. I'm not 100% sure. If it is re-backed, it is very well done.
No sideboard for the moment, but I am pretty excited about this finally coming together.
The guys who run this format are awesome. They're admittedly elitist within their own playgroup, but absolutely encourage other groups to legalize whatever they want, so long as it maintains an oldschool feel. Also worth mentioning that Magnus (the primary oldschool blog author) recently ran a crowdsourced campaign called MtgForLife, in which participants sold off Magic cards and donated the proceeds to Doctors Without Borders. It was a totally selfless undertaking, and ended up raising over $12,000. The whole mindset behind 93/94 is incredible.
A couple friends and I have been working at the format for a couple months. I've been playing since '94, but didn't have any carryover from those years aside from a handful of Revised duals. I've got a B/W deadguy deck in pretty solid form, a few cards away from being "legit" oldschool (though most of it's still white-bordered). Playing with original art proxies is completely fine - it's better to be able to play at all than not - but part of the appeal is also working to acquire the ABU versions. I don't think the allure would be the same using a pile of $0.25 4th Edition cards.
I liked your comment, GumgodMTG, about wanting to sell your modern cards every time you see oldschool pics. I'm the same. I love Modern, Legacy, etc., but I've definitely gutted some of the Modern stuff I wasn't using to help fund 93/94. I haven't yet devolved to selling off eternal staples like Force and LotV to get into power, but it seems like it gets more tempting every day.
I liked your comment, GumgodMTG, about wanting to sell your modern cards every time you see oldschool pics. I'm the same. I love Modern, Legacy, etc., but I've definitely gutted some of the Modern stuff I wasn't using to help fund 93/94. I haven't yet devolved to selling off eternal staples like Force and LotV to get into power, but it seems like it gets more tempting every day.
I got my Chaos Orb from PucaTrade. To get there, I gave up Deathrite Shamans, Caverns of Souls, Abrupt Decays, Steam Vents and other goodies. I love having a Chaos Orb though, and would probably do it again, even with the current value of the caverns... (They basically doubled since I've traded them) I've just had so much fun flipping that card. Oh and I gave up a Liliana of the Veil and Dark Depths when I got my Time Vault (there was a whole pile of other stuff lumped in there too, but I ended up selling that one a couple months back). So yeah, when I say I'm giving up new staples for old cards, I mean it.
I liked your comment, GumgodMTG, about wanting to sell your modern cards every time you see oldschool pics. I'm the same. I love Modern, Legacy, etc., but I've definitely gutted some of the Modern stuff I wasn't using to help fund 93/94. I haven't yet devolved to selling off eternal staples like Force and LotV to get into power, but it seems like it gets more tempting every day.
I got my Chaos Orb from PucaTrade. To get there, I gave up Deathrite Shamans, Caverns of Souls, Abrupt Decays, Steam Vents and other goodies. I love having a Chaos Orb though, and would probably do it again, even with the current value of the caverns... (They basically doubled since I've traded them) I've just had so much fun flipping that card. Oh and I gave up a Liliana of the Veil and Dark Depths when I got my Time Vault (there was a whole pile of other stuff lumped in there too, but I ended up selling that one a couple months back). So yeah, when I say I'm giving up new staples for old cards, I mean it.
I haven't ditched primary playsets of staples yet. Lots of trades into stores of lower value, half-playable stuff like Jace Beleren, an extra set of Deathrites that never amounted to much after it was banned in Modern, etc. It adds up quick. Splurged a little on a BGS 9 artist-signed Beta Serra Angel that I still need to bust out of the case. From a play value standpoint, some of the trades I've made feel ridiculous. Totally worth it though.
Nice, I felt a little weird trading for Beta Serra too, but my only regret now is that I only managed to pick up one before they started climbing in price. I love when people break open the cases. The whole grading thing has made good condition cards like this much harder to find without having to pay a premium because it's graded. I don't understand why people want cards that are encased in so much plastic. Cards were meant for playing.
In my opinion, old cards graded at 9 to 10 are real collector's items. If you want to play, you can probably trade a 9 off for at least 2 ungraded, EX+ copies going by current prices. Maybe more. The last 9.5 Serra on eBay sold for $385, which is pretty crazy. Anything less than 8.5 is fair for cracking.
In my opinion, old cards graded at 9 to 10 are real collector's items. If you want to play, you can probably trade a 9 off for at least 2 ungraded, EX+ copies going by current prices. Maybe more. The last 9.5 Serra on eBay sold for $385, which is pretty crazy. Anything less than 8.5 is fair for cracking.
I was actually watching that auction (not because I had any intention of bidding on it, was more a curiosity). Seller had a 9 and a 9.5 (both BGS) and the 9.5 went for literally $300 more than the 9. Crazy. I've busted a number of slabs for this format so far (including many BGS 9's), but most of them inexpensive Umlimited cards. I feel like 9.5 is where the really serious collectors get involved, unless you're talking about super rare stuff like AB rares and Summer.
1) The format's name is 93/94 and Revised was released in April '94
2) Revised looks old school as hell, even moreso than Alpha/Beta/Unlimited, due to the faded colors
3) Most people's duals are Revised and they'll never go through the time and big $ to get Unlimited ones
I would also add Fallen Empires because it was released in November '94 and Hymn to Tourach is awesome for oldschool black, but the set is really bad.
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The other deck I'm now looking at is UW Combo-Control abusing Power Artifact:
4 Swords to Plowshares
4 Mana Drain
4 Counterspell
3 Disenchant
3 Wrath of God
3 Fireball
1 Braingeyser
1 Balance
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Timetwister
//Permanents: 7
2 Moat
2 Icy Manipulator
3 Power Artifact
3 Basalt Monolith
1 Sol Ring
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mishra's Workshop
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Maze of Ith
3 Island
4 Tundra
4 Volcanic Island
4 Plateau
3 Circle of Protection: Red
2 Blue Elemental Blast
2 Red Elemental Blast
2 Karma
2 Power Sink
1 Disenchant
1 Wrath of God
1 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
1 Rocket Launcher
Basically you play a creatureless draw-go control deck that eventually wins by making infinite mana with Power Artifact + Basalt Monolith. Unfortunately, since Braingeyser is restricted, the deck splashes red for Fireball as the primary kill. Sideboard is colour hosing and aggro hosing. Singleton Rocket Launcher as plan B in case the opponent sides in too much anti-red stuff to beat Fireball, and also because infinite Rocket Launcher is just hilarious.
Thoughts/suggestions? I thought about going up to 4 Power Artifact / 4 Monolith / 4 Fireball, but I feel like that would just give you too many dead cards too often. Without tutors or draw fixing, you probably need to just stall out and control the game before trying to assemble the combo.
I guess I'll have to modify the main. 1 Tome seems good. Easy to cast with Workshop. Can always drop a Power Artifact on it to make drawing cheaper.
4 Swords to Plowshares
4 Counterspell
3 Disenchant
3 Wrath of God
3 Power Sink
3 Fireball
1 Braingeyser
1 Balance
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Recall
1 Timetwister
1 Mana Drain
//Permanents: 8
3 Power Artifact
2 Moat
1 Icy Manipulator
1 Ivory Tower
1 Jayemdae Tome
3 Basalt Monolith
1 Sol Ring
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mishra's Workshop
1 Library of Alexandria
2 Plains
2 Island
4 Tundra
4 Volcanic Island
4 Plateau
3 Circle of Protection: Red
2 Blue Elemental Blast
2 Red Elemental Blast
2 Karma
1 Disenchant
1 Wrath of God
1 Rocket Launcher
1 Power Sink
1 Maze of Ith
1 Amnesia
(This video is on the page I linked before, but there's so much content on there, it's worth pointing out in case you didn't see it).
Also it seems like power sink gains a lot of power in your deck anyway with the mana rocks like Basalt Monolith. Sure it's not as good as Mana Drain, but it does tap them down.
It would also be neat if we could find some way to make Contract from Below playable without resorting to ante, since it is hella 93/94 in terms of flavor. What if it was errata'd to the following, sort of like Chaos Orb:
Contract from Below
B
Sorcery
Discard your hand. Exile the top card of your library. Target opponent may cast that card until end of turn without paying its mana cost. Then, draw seven cards.
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I've seen some YouTube videos where people are playing with mana burn in 93/94, but here's a good article on why current rules are generally used.
If you want a format that DOES use old rules, take a look at QL magic. They use 6th edition rules and even have an archive of old oracle text.
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I think this is one of my little "peeves" about this format - you'd think in a format oriented around Magic as it was (largely) in those years, all the sets created in those years would be allowed. So what if it allows more people into the format (one commenters on the blog linked to in the OP seemed critical of the idea - I have no idea why, though I got the impression it was because he felt threatened so far as the exclusiveness and blingyness of the format was concerned), for those who want to bling out their decks/can afford to use expensive cards, great, the inclusion of those two sets does NOT hinder that in any ways.
The guys from Sweden that started the format are really hardcore about what sets they want to allow. However this is a casual format, and from what I've seen most people are happy just to be able to play it, and won't care too much if you're using a newer edition in your deck. I've seen several events that allowed Chronicles or Revised for example, and a friend of mine convinced his local store to run an event, but they allowed Fallen Empires and editions all the way up to 4th edition. Basically what I'm saying is that it's a casual format, you should treat it as such. If you can't afford original City of Brass, no one is likely to give you too much of a hard time about running a white bordered one, but please at least use the old art. Part of the appeal of the format is the nostalgia and the desire to play with classic cards. Your modern bordered Serra Angel isn't 'classic', but you can probably pick up revised editions for a quarter, and still get the basic feel of the format and build a deck. If you like that deck though, consider making it officially legal or "pimped out" a long term project. In the end though what sets are actually allowed are going to be determined by where you are able to find games. If you want to play this format against your friends or at your local store, talk to them and see what versions of cards they think are ok.
Again I'm also going to point out the deck lists from the huge Eternal Central event. This was the largest recent event for the format, and the decks include all sorts of things that would not be legal based on the main blog, but they were allowed and I'm pretty sure everyone there had a great time.
For reference if you don't feel like scrolling through all those decks:
These Crusades, Savannah Lions and Armageddons are NOT beta
These cities are not Arabian Nights (the birds and sol ring are also revised)
Look at all that Revised Edition!
Lands, Serendib, Counterspell, Earthquake, Juggernaut! - All appear to be Revised!
Those decks all still look and feel oldschool, and they were allowed.
For what it's worth, the Italian group on Facebook also allows Revised.
I like the druids, but I think Argothian Pixies are probably better if you have them. They block Mishra's Factories all day, and are solid against non-artifact decks (main deck).
The difference I see with Imprison vs Paralyze is that one ties up your mana, and the other ties up their mana. If you're going to be using your own mana to tap things, why not just run Icy Manipulator? Paralyze also taps the creature when it is cast, so it's not that conditional, it just makes them invest more resources to keep using that creature. (Unless it's a serra angel, then they just untap it once and keep beating you down). I would think though that if you're running cards like paralyze you're also going to want to aggressively use cards like sinkhole, strip mine and possibly even Chaos Orb to try and keep them off the four mana all together. If you're looking for good removal vs a black deck, you may want to try Oubliette, just be wary of City in a Bottle.
Honestly, I rarely ever read the comments. People tend to get really opinionated on the internet and they spew forth their opinions pretty openly. Don't let the negative people discourage you from trying this format. It's a lot of fun, and even if you can't find many people that are willing to build decks, you could build multiple budget decks (think Revised white weenie or kird apes) and loan them one or build one decent deck and play it against something more modern. I've blown up a hexproof spirit with a chaos orb. It can be really interesting to jam oldschool vs more modern casual decks. I don't really care too much about winning or what my opponent is playing if they let me play my sweet old cards. Channel + Fireball doesn't happen often enough for anyone to get too salty about it. Besides, many of those cards are still staples. I can play my oldschool bolts or my oldschool tron lands in a modern deck if I wanted to.
I will say also that I think this format will survive, because the people that play it are really dedicated to it. Every time I visit one of the oldschool blogs, I feel compelled to sell ALL my modern stuff and buy more old cards. EVERY TIME. I just see pictures, and I'm like WOW, Enchantress with multiple fastbond looks so broken... Chaos orb with Guardian Beast looks so fun... There are just so many things you can do in this format that you just can't do in other formats. Do I really need these Chalice of the Voids, or this Engineered explosives... or this Bloodstained Mire?
If you check out the recent article on the BSK event they bring up another interesting point, and that is the people playing in that event played the ENTIRE event. Which means they are having fun.
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This really seems like a good community. It has been getting a lot of attention lately, and people are treating it like it's a new thing, but this has been around for years.
I'm currently trying to build a few different decks. I love the old White Weenie deck, as it was the first type of deck I remember having any success with. I even won my first Vintage tournament many years ago with a version running borrowed Savannah Lions. Now I own Beta copies and this format gave me the reason to do so.
I also think the related white-based decks are pretty cool, such as White Weenie with Burn, TaxEdge, and ErhnamGeddon. Mono Black and Underworld Dreams decks are super sweet. First turn Dark Ritual into Hypnotic Specter remains one of my all-time favorite sequences. I'm glad there's a format that will still let me do that.
4 Lightning Bolt
3 Flash Counter
1 Boomerang
1 Fork
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Recall
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Timetwister
1 Braingeyser
1 Wheel of Fortune
4 Winds of Change
1 Black Vise
1 Regrowth
1 Feldon's Cane
4 Howling Mine
4 Dark Ritual
1 Sol Ring
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Black Lotus
4 Underground Sea
4 Badlands
2 Volcanic Island
1 Library of Alexandria
4 City of Brass
2 Swamp
1 Island
SO. MUCH. FUN.
1 Tundra Wolves (I think I have this somewhere, so I might just have to find it.)
1 Pendelhaven
4 Plains (With the art not pictured. Two should already be in the mail.)
Also, sadly one Armageddon might be re-backed CE. I'm not 100% sure. If it is re-backed, it is very well done.
No sideboard for the moment, but I am pretty excited about this finally coming together.
Those fools who don't allow Revised/Fallen Empires are just being snobby.
Long live '94 magic.
My Kamigawa cube.
My Mirage Cube
A couple friends and I have been working at the format for a couple months. I've been playing since '94, but didn't have any carryover from those years aside from a handful of Revised duals. I've got a B/W deadguy deck in pretty solid form, a few cards away from being "legit" oldschool (though most of it's still white-bordered). Playing with original art proxies is completely fine - it's better to be able to play at all than not - but part of the appeal is also working to acquire the ABU versions. I don't think the allure would be the same using a pile of $0.25 4th Edition cards.
I liked your comment, GumgodMTG, about wanting to sell your modern cards every time you see oldschool pics. I'm the same. I love Modern, Legacy, etc., but I've definitely gutted some of the Modern stuff I wasn't using to help fund 93/94. I haven't yet devolved to selling off eternal staples like Force and LotV to get into power, but it seems like it gets more tempting every day.
Legacy: D+T
Oldschool: BW Deadguy BW
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I got my Chaos Orb from PucaTrade. To get there, I gave up Deathrite Shamans, Caverns of Souls, Abrupt Decays, Steam Vents and other goodies. I love having a Chaos Orb though, and would probably do it again, even with the current value of the caverns... (They basically doubled since I've traded them) I've just had so much fun flipping that card. Oh and I gave up a Liliana of the Veil and Dark Depths when I got my Time Vault (there was a whole pile of other stuff lumped in there too, but I ended up selling that one a couple months back). So yeah, when I say I'm giving up new staples for old cards, I mean it.
I haven't ditched primary playsets of staples yet. Lots of trades into stores of lower value, half-playable stuff like Jace Beleren, an extra set of Deathrites that never amounted to much after it was banned in Modern, etc. It adds up quick. Splurged a little on a BGS 9 artist-signed Beta Serra Angel that I still need to bust out of the case. From a play value standpoint, some of the trades I've made feel ridiculous. Totally worth it though.
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I was actually watching that auction (not because I had any intention of bidding on it, was more a curiosity). Seller had a 9 and a 9.5 (both BGS) and the 9.5 went for literally $300 more than the 9. Crazy. I've busted a number of slabs for this format so far (including many BGS 9's), but most of them inexpensive Umlimited cards. I feel like 9.5 is where the really serious collectors get involved, unless you're talking about super rare stuff like AB rares and Summer.
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Magic player/collector since 1994
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