The problem I have with Inferno Titan is that we have no way to search it, so playing just 1 is not really enough and we don't have sideboard space to play more than that.
The problem I have with Inferno Titan is that we have no way to search it, so playing just 1 is not really enough and we don't have sideboard space to play more than that.
I don't know if I agree with your logic. Inferno Titan is just intended to increase your threat density not be a solo 'let's win the game with this' card.
The problem I have with Inferno Titan is that we have no way to search it, so playing just 1 is not really enough and we don't have sideboard space to play more than that.
I don't know if I agree with your logic. Inferno Titan is just intended to increase your threat density not be a solo 'let's win the game with this' card.
I would agree with you. Whenever I have it in the SB, it often comes with Baloth. Inferno Titan just has some added flexibility that you can reliably increase your threat density against Blood Moon decks.
I tried out a slightly different configuration for Modern last night:
Overall Record was 3-1
Burn 1-2
Dredge 2-0
Dredge 2-1
GW Eldrazi Tron 2-0
I had been wanting to just try and play with 2 Basic Forest to avoid some awkwardness in the Primeval Titan plays, taking a note from the Through the Breach deck. Acid-Moss was more of a mid-week "eh, lets just try it", but did come in handy a few times. I did cut Bolts for it, while the card is good, it really only felt helpful on the play (though I did blow up Dredge's only land and bought like 5 turns).
The burn matchup is just miserable, I've never had any amount of success in it. Even with MB Bolts and Angers. Does anyone have a lot of experience in the MU?
2-0 vs UW Spirits
2-0 vs Infect
2-0 vs Grixis Control
ID vs Tron
Highlights to G2 against Infect. He had me at 8 infect, with Inkmoth, Pendelhaven and 2 other lands on his side of the field. He had seen some of my cards in hand from a turn 1 Probe, so he knew about my EE. I was dead on board without ways to kill Inkmoth, so I played a ramp spell, played EE for 0 and passed with 2 mana open. The Infect player thought for a bit and passed without attacking, misunderstanding what EE did. A couple turns later I won with his way to lethal still on board and no answer to it from my side (aside from my EE bluff that he bought hahaha).
Lesson of the day: Play to your odds, even if your odds is a mistake from the opponent.
Main deck Courser of Kruphix pulls a lot of weight against burn to it normally buys you at least 6+ life. Its 4 toughness is great for blocks worse case scenario with it out is it chump blocks the next turn and eats a lightning bolt without gaining you any life other then the 3 from bolt and 2 from say a goblin guide. However guides also gone buying you life from the next turn to. If they don't answer it burn just cant win through the 1 life it gains from lands being played.
I'll probably try maindeck Coursers once the bans are in place. 2 Angers on the sideboard for aggro/Dredge matchups and then see where it goes.
Probably losing some %points against Melira CoCo, but there's just 1 player around here on the deck.
The Courser also plays very interestingly with Explore. I know that this only opens very small angles but access to the top of the deck reduces those feel bad moments from a bad explore.
Rd1: vs Burn (2-0)
g1: I was on the play and had a t4 scapeshift hand. Not much else to say.
-3 khe, -3 scapeshift, -2 farseek, +2 chalice, +3 baloth, +1 beast within, +2 sudden shock
g2: kept a hand with bolt and chalice, killed his t1 threat, chalice on t2 kept me alive long enough to draw the other one and cast it for 2. he scooped.
Rd2: vs Merfolk (2-1)
g1: t4 titan > t5 scapeshift
-3 khe, -1 farseek, +1 anger, +1 ee, +2 sudden shock
g2: lost to chip damage + a lethal swing for 14 on turn 4 (2 lords a mutavault, and a silvergil)
-1 explore, +1 farseek
g3: he bricked on lands, proceeded to titan on t4, he scooped on his draw step which i guess still wasn't a land.
Rd3: vs Jund (2-1)
g1: he had a goyf on t2 which pretty much went all the way, didn't draw a wincon til it was too late.
-3 khe, -2 anger, +3 baloth, +1 beast within, +1 ee
g2: He thoughtseized me t1, taking my bolt, played a goyf on t2 > liliana on t3. I drew a Summoner's Pact somewhere in between the thoughtseize and the lili, and I think he misplayed by attacking before discarding with lili, bec then my baloth was able to deal with the lili right away, and that turned the board state around completely in my favor. Was hard for him to recover after that.
g3: t4 titan > t5 scapeshift. He had a bob to get him some cards but didn't have enough of a clock on me, I guess.
Rd4: vs Tron (2-0)
g1: He has natural tron in his hand but only had wurmcoil as his threat. I proceeded to win with a 9-land Scapeshift.
-2 anger, -2 bolt, +1 rec sage, +2 nature's claim, +1 beast within
g2: I calim his map t1, he had multiples of tower, and one mine. He was pretty slow from there. He hard-casted a Leyline on his t4 with the help of an egg but I had a pact in hand to fetch the sage when it was time to win. I hit his untapped colorless source at eot with beast within to play around warping wail, proceed to pact for sage, blow leyline, then cast scapeshift on my turn.
What is the general opinion of oracle of muldaya in thisdeck, or courser of kruphix?
They are a little good if you land them on T3, otherwise they're not that great. They are kind of bad topdecks in the late game too. Courser can be very good in an aggro/burn heavy meta.
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What is the benefit of playing Titan Shift over Breach? What are the differences in the matchups?
Titanshift is more consistant and focused, and can win with needing less stuff in combination, breach needs more cards to win fast, but can win generally one turn faster. Its less consistant though. Matchupwise i only know it destroys Midrange, but both versions do.
As for Matchups, i wanted to ask myself: is Titanshift viable in a heavy affinity, infect and Gbx decks meta? Any experiences?
Got to go to FNM for the first time in about a month! 24 people there because some went to the GP.
Round 1: Abzan Midrange
I get to the event 10 minutes late and yet they don't give me a match loss because someone had the bye! Game 1, I play a Titan turn 4 into Scapeshift turn 5. Game 2, he turn 3 Lost Legacy'd my Primeval Titans after thoughtseizing two Scapeshift. My baloths and thrun only prevented the inevitable doom because of his Fulminator mage/K Command taking away valakuts. Grim double grim flayer+double lingering souls flashback is a clock! I should mention every time I went to search for something in game 2 Scapeshift was on top, which was a feel bad. Game 3, he thoughtseizes and surgical extractions my Titan turn 1. I don't draw my Scapeshift just a bunch of ramp and die to grim flayers.
I should mention this was my first loss against Abzan normally I had no problems. He is a great player/ good friend of mine and I had no issues losing to him.
Round 2: UW Spirits
So this was an obviously budget deck. Game 1, he remanded my turn 4 titan but had nothing for turn 5 titan. Game 2, he got me by surprise because he had a figure of destiny I tried to bolt, but he had a rattlechains into next turn dragscol captain (if he didn't have the captain I won with scapeshift next turn). Game 3, I bolt and sudden shock away some spirits and titan for the win. He was a nice guy!
Round 3: Jund
Game 1, he wins the die roll and puts me on the play. he has turn 1 thoughtseize into turn 2 goyf into turn 3 K Command with Scapeshift as my only card in hand ready to ramp, into two more goyfs! If he had one less Goyf I would have lived long enough to play the Titan I would have topdecked next turn. Game 2+3 played out basically how you expect the match to go; turn 4 titan steals the game, then turn 5 Scapeshift steals the game.
Round 4: Merfolk
Game 1 he pressured me down to 12 life before I scapeshifted. Game 2, he gets me down to 8 but he emptied his entire hand and it had only one lord, so I anger of the gods away the game to buy enough time for titan.
At this point, I have the worst tie breakers of the X-1s and am in 7th, so I have to play it out.
Round 5; Coco Merfolk
He didn't want to spend money on Vials since he thinks they will be reprinted in the upcoming Modern Masters (which I can't help but agree with). Game 1, he pressured me, but not before turn 5 Scapeshift after turn 4 titan, but he had double spreading Seas on the valakuts I searched with Titan. Game 2, he pressured me and seas on one of the two green sources I had, but Search for Tomorrow into Scapeshift gets there.
I end up in 4th place! The same 75 I have had for months and it is still going strong.
In terms of playing against affinity/infect/GBx, I play against those quite a bit. The deck crushes GBx, I have 9 cards of sideboard hate for affinity (not all of it is direct hate it just happens to be good against them) and I have not lost much to it at all, and infect got worse after the probe ban, but the matchup is still not great (but in my opinion not horrible). There are some hands that you can't beat and there are some hands they can't beat from you. I would totally take the deck in that meta
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Blood Moon is always play in slow decks and in game 2 they always side-out removals.
RG Titan Scapeshift GR
UBWAd Nauseam WBU
CEldrazi TronC
WGUBR 5c Humans
GWR Naya Zoo
Legacy:
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R Goblins
BWBAthreos, God of PassageBWB (Shadowborn Clerics)
I would agree with you. Whenever I have it in the SB, it often comes with Baloth. Inferno Titan just has some added flexibility that you can reliably increase your threat density against Blood Moon decks.
I tried out a slightly different configuration for Modern last night:
4 Sakura Tribe Elder
4 Primeval Titan
Non Creatures
4 Search for Tomorrow
4 Scapeshift
4 Mwonvuli Acid-Moss
4 Khalini-Heart Expedition
2 Prismatic Omen
2 Relic of Progenitus
2 Summoner's Pact
2 Explore
1 Farseek
4 Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle
4 Stomping Ground
3 Cinder Glade
7 Mountain
2 Forest
4 Wooded Foothills
2 Misty Rainforest
1 Windswept Heath
3 Anger of the Gods
1 Grafdigger's Cage
3 Obstinate Baloth
2 Sudden Shock
1 Engineered Explosives
2 Nature's Claim
1 Ancient Grudge
2 Reverberate
Overall Record was 3-1
Burn 1-2
Dredge 2-0
Dredge 2-1
GW Eldrazi Tron 2-0
I had been wanting to just try and play with 2 Basic Forest to avoid some awkwardness in the Primeval Titan plays, taking a note from the Through the Breach deck. Acid-Moss was more of a mid-week "eh, lets just try it", but did come in handy a few times. I did cut Bolts for it, while the card is good, it really only felt helpful on the play (though I did blow up Dredge's only land and bought like 5 turns).
The burn matchup is just miserable, I've never had any amount of success in it. Even with MB Bolts and Angers. Does anyone have a lot of experience in the MU?
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For Burn, it really depends your sideboard and your hand G2, and the skill of your opponent^^.
We are unfavored G1, so we need to race for win.
When you side do not hesitate to cut 3/4 scapeshift and ramps spell, and do not hesitate to mulligan, just one Baloth can make you win.
I also run 4 bolts and 2 angers Maindeck.
(My side vs burn for exemple)
-3 Expedition
-2/3 Scapeshift
-1/2 Explore
-1 Fareseek
+4 Obstinate Baloth
+2 Chalice of the void
+1 Sudden Shock
+1 Anger of the gods
Chalice of the void even if it arrives late, totally lock burn.
For the skill of your opponent, I say this because many non experimented player side Deflecting Palm vs us and don't know who it's work with Valakut.
RG Titan Scapeshift GR
UBWAd Nauseam WBU
CEldrazi TronC
2-0 vs UW Spirits
2-0 vs Infect
2-0 vs Grixis Control
ID vs Tron
Highlights to G2 against Infect. He had me at 8 infect, with Inkmoth, Pendelhaven and 2 other lands on his side of the field. He had seen some of my cards in hand from a turn 1 Probe, so he knew about my EE. I was dead on board without ways to kill Inkmoth, so I played a ramp spell, played EE for 0 and passed with 2 mana open. The Infect player thought for a bit and passed without attacking, misunderstanding what EE did. A couple turns later I won with his way to lethal still on board and no answer to it from my side (aside from my EE bluff that he bought hahaha).
Lesson of the day: Play to your odds, even if your odds is a mistake from the opponent.
WGUBR 5c Humans
GWR Naya Zoo
Legacy:
GW GW Maverick
R Goblins
Probably losing some %points against Melira CoCo, but there's just 1 player around here on the deck.
WGUBR 5c Humans
GWR Naya Zoo
Legacy:
GW GW Maverick
R Goblins
Angers will takes 2 places in the sideboard...
We don't know what will be the next meta for the moment, I think that infect is still as strong, I prefer to keep my Chalice of the Void in sideboard.
RG Titan Scapeshift GR
UBWAd Nauseam WBU
CEldrazi TronC
WGUBR 5c Humans
GWR Naya Zoo
Legacy:
GW GW Maverick
R Goblins
BWBAthreos, God of PassageBWB (Shadowborn Clerics)
Tried the more classic list over the Chandra list I've been running recently.
4 Primeval Titan
4 Sakura-Tribe Elder
Other Spells:
3 Khalni Heart Expedition
4 Search for Tomorrow
4 Explore
2 Farseek
2 Anger of the Gods
2 Summoner's Pact
4 Scapeshift
27 Lands
2 Chalice of the Void
1 Engineered Explosives
1 Grafdigger's Cage
1 Anger of the Gods
2 Nature's Claim
1 Melira, Sylvok Outcast
1 Reclamation Sage
3 Obstinate Baloth
2 Sudden Shock
1 Beast Within
Rd1: vs Burn (2-0)
g1: I was on the play and had a t4 scapeshift hand. Not much else to say.
-3 khe, -3 scapeshift, -2 farseek, +2 chalice, +3 baloth, +1 beast within, +2 sudden shock
g2: kept a hand with bolt and chalice, killed his t1 threat, chalice on t2 kept me alive long enough to draw the other one and cast it for 2. he scooped.
Rd2: vs Merfolk (2-1)
g1: t4 titan > t5 scapeshift
-3 khe, -1 farseek, +1 anger, +1 ee, +2 sudden shock
g2: lost to chip damage + a lethal swing for 14 on turn 4 (2 lords a mutavault, and a silvergil)
-1 explore, +1 farseek
g3: he bricked on lands, proceeded to titan on t4, he scooped on his draw step which i guess still wasn't a land.
Rd3: vs Jund (2-1)
g1: he had a goyf on t2 which pretty much went all the way, didn't draw a wincon til it was too late.
-3 khe, -2 anger, +3 baloth, +1 beast within, +1 ee
g2: He thoughtseized me t1, taking my bolt, played a goyf on t2 > liliana on t3. I drew a Summoner's Pact somewhere in between the thoughtseize and the lili, and I think he misplayed by attacking before discarding with lili, bec then my baloth was able to deal with the lili right away, and that turned the board state around completely in my favor. Was hard for him to recover after that.
g3: t4 titan > t5 scapeshift. He had a bob to get him some cards but didn't have enough of a clock on me, I guess.
Rd4: vs Tron (2-0)
g1: He has natural tron in his hand but only had wurmcoil as his threat. I proceeded to win with a 9-land Scapeshift.
-2 anger, -2 bolt, +1 rec sage, +2 nature's claim, +1 beast within
g2: I calim his map t1, he had multiples of tower, and one mine. He was pretty slow from there. He hard-casted a Leyline on his t4 with the help of an egg but I had a pact in hand to fetch the sage when it was time to win. I hit his untapped colorless source at eot with beast within to play around warping wail, proceed to pact for sage, blow leyline, then cast scapeshift on my turn.
I have gone ahead and done a deck tech over my list on my channel. This is what I'm testing for scg regionals in Feb.
Rd1 2-0 vs Burn
Rd2 2-1 vs Bant good stuff (goyf, kotr, etc. no combo)
Rd3 0-2 vs Bant Eldrazi
Rd4 2-1 vs UW Tron Gifts
Changed my SB up. Rest of the deck is unchanged.
2 Chalice of the Void
2 Relic of Progenitus
2 Sudden Shock
1 Engineered Explosives
1 Anger of the Gods
3 Obstinate Baloth
1 Reclamation Sage
1 Ancient Grudge
They are a little good if you land them on T3, otherwise they're not that great. They are kind of bad topdecks in the late game too. Courser can be very good in an aggro/burn heavy meta.
Titanshift is more consistant and focused, and can win with needing less stuff in combination, breach needs more cards to win fast, but can win generally one turn faster. Its less consistant though. Matchupwise i only know it destroys Midrange, but both versions do.
As for Matchups, i wanted to ask myself: is Titanshift viable in a heavy affinity, infect and Gbx decks meta? Any experiences?
Round 1: Abzan Midrange
I get to the event 10 minutes late and yet they don't give me a match loss because someone had the bye! Game 1, I play a Titan turn 4 into Scapeshift turn 5. Game 2, he turn 3 Lost Legacy'd my Primeval Titans after thoughtseizing two Scapeshift. My baloths and thrun only prevented the inevitable doom because of his Fulminator mage/K Command taking away valakuts. Grim double grim flayer+double lingering souls flashback is a clock! I should mention every time I went to search for something in game 2 Scapeshift was on top, which was a feel bad. Game 3, he thoughtseizes and surgical extractions my Titan turn 1. I don't draw my Scapeshift just a bunch of ramp and die to grim flayers.
I should mention this was my first loss against Abzan normally I had no problems. He is a great player/ good friend of mine and I had no issues losing to him.
Round 2: UW Spirits
So this was an obviously budget deck. Game 1, he remanded my turn 4 titan but had nothing for turn 5 titan. Game 2, he got me by surprise because he had a figure of destiny I tried to bolt, but he had a rattlechains into next turn dragscol captain (if he didn't have the captain I won with scapeshift next turn). Game 3, I bolt and sudden shock away some spirits and titan for the win. He was a nice guy!
Round 3: Jund
Game 1, he wins the die roll and puts me on the play. he has turn 1 thoughtseize into turn 2 goyf into turn 3 K Command with Scapeshift as my only card in hand ready to ramp, into two more goyfs! If he had one less Goyf I would have lived long enough to play the Titan I would have topdecked next turn. Game 2+3 played out basically how you expect the match to go; turn 4 titan steals the game, then turn 5 Scapeshift steals the game.
Round 4: Merfolk
Game 1 he pressured me down to 12 life before I scapeshifted. Game 2, he gets me down to 8 but he emptied his entire hand and it had only one lord, so I anger of the gods away the game to buy enough time for titan.
At this point, I have the worst tie breakers of the X-1s and am in 7th, so I have to play it out.
Round 5; Coco Merfolk
He didn't want to spend money on Vials since he thinks they will be reprinted in the upcoming Modern Masters (which I can't help but agree with). Game 1, he pressured me, but not before turn 5 Scapeshift after turn 4 titan, but he had double spreading Seas on the valakuts I searched with Titan. Game 2, he pressured me and seas on one of the two green sources I had, but Search for Tomorrow into Scapeshift gets there.
I end up in 4th place! The same 75 I have had for months and it is still going strong.
In terms of playing against affinity/infect/GBx, I play against those quite a bit. The deck crushes GBx, I have 9 cards of sideboard hate for affinity (not all of it is direct hate it just happens to be good against them) and I have not lost much to it at all, and infect got worse after the probe ban, but the matchup is still not great (but in my opinion not horrible). There are some hands that you can't beat and there are some hands they can't beat from you. I would totally take the deck in that meta