Also, with so many Eldrazi decks in the meta, All is Dust seems to be a worse card MB in Game one. Any thoughts on bumping it into the SB and maybe running Oblivion Stones, or Perilous Vaults in its place?
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Matter Reshaper over Endless One
This is a test because I like Matter Reshaper's ability to cantrip or advance the battlefield upon death. The reason I chose to cut Endless One is because while I love Endless one, it does not mix as well as I would like with Reshaper *and yes I know Reshaper's ability is a "may"*. I'm also considering cutting Mimic for something that has an impact ability or even swap those out for the Endless Ones, but for now I'm experimenting with utility over beats. This may not stick.
The second Wastes
After reading in this thread about Ghost Quarter underperforming, and I agree because I started with a verbatim netdeck, the second Wastes is my go to option because Path to Exile and Ghost Quarter are rampant. And I always found myself staring at my lone copy as they pathed/Strip Mined me, so the more the merrier.
All is Dust could use replacing or strictly sideboard, but I just used it tonight to play defeat a main deck Blood Moon (also another reason to increase odds of drawing Wastes with more copies). So it pulls its weight. Symmetrical solutions like Oblivion Stone hurt TronDrazi more than just Urzatron because we commit more to the field than them (i've played the deck a long time). Part of integrating Eldrazi and Tron together is that we occasionally get those sweet, sweet early swarms and then Oblivion Stone is odd. I'm not going to say no (It's also good at fighting through Blood Moon faster), but I have reservations.
Splashing Green for Ancient Stirrings and World Breaker would be awesome... if there was room in the mana base. Tron plays 6-8 lands that produce green, then 8 Chromatics. Even then the stars don't always align. And the reason I switched from GR Eldrazi to TronDrazi is they struggle with their Green from time to time and PAINFULLY with pain lands.
All that said, I think there is hope for this deck to catch on as one of the better versions of the Eldrazi Winter Archetype. It's at least one of the more fun ones. We only have a short time to master the deck.
Also lost a match against rg tron where I had 28 mana for 4 turns after two oblivion sowers, and top decked nothing but lands.
One of the reasons I like to run Conduit of Ruin and Sanctum of Ugin. Gives you a chance to tutor up one of the Eldrazi Titans. I probably run too many but I think there is a place for some in the deck.
Yes, not having them in my sideboard is admittedly a mistake. We really thought bringing ghost quarters were the way to go, but this was not the case. I have since moved to 3 Sower, 1 conduit main, and 1 of each in the side. I also dropped GQ for a second wastes in the main. I highly disagree with your decision to cut Endless ones. It is one of the best creatures in the deck in my experience.
You should write a primer! this is just a deck discussion, and primers are always a good thing!
Three questions for you!!
1. I've seen your friends stating that the deck can cope with a ban (on either temple / eye). Is that true, is it something that will just make you fair instead of busted?
2. Is there any archived footage from SCG Event that you finished 9th in?
3. Is there archived footage from your twitch channel? When I go there, I have to hope your online at the same time as me, which is unlikely considering the amount of water between you and I!
1. I can't be sure, I'm no Teferi. However, with some adjustments we certainly remain competitive.
2. Yes. It was my first time playing on camera and I think the pressure got to me, and I kept bad hands. But my round ?11? is on SCGLive.
3. Yes, http://www.twitch.tv/stlzach314/profile/highlights
Also, with so many Eldrazi decks in the meta, All is Dust seems to be a worse card MB in Game one. Any thoughts on bumping it into the SB and maybe running Oblivion Stones, or Perilous Vaults in its place?
Because of its power in non-eldrazi match ups I'm keeping 2 main. They are easy to side out in the eldrazi matchup and don't hurt too much having them in hand game 1. We usually surprise them game 1 anyway.
Thanks for responding Zack. Let us know any results you may have in any upcoming events or even in play testing. I will check out the video, thanks for the link. I'll stick with All is Dust in the MB. As for Endless One, I tend to side with Mockingbird but if you've had success, you can't argue that. I must say I like Matter Reshaper in that slot better but maybe I'll change my mind after watching your game. Please feel free to post up and if you start a Primer if I can assist let me know.
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Also the Palladium Myr's are gone from my list as they never have done much at all. So -2 Palladium Myr and +2 Eldrazi Mimic. Kozilek's Channeler is soon to follow. Totally underperforms.
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Thanks for responding Zack. Let us know any results you may have in any upcoming events or even in play testing. I will check out the video, thanks for the link. I'll stick with All is Dust in the MB. As for Endless One, I tend to side with Mockingbird but if you've had success, you can't argue that. I must say I like Matter Reshaper in that slot better but maybe I'll change my mind after watching your game. Please feel free to post up and if you start a Primer if I can assist let me know.
I think after an eye of ugin ban we can move into more of a midrange-value shell with things like Reshaper.
I'll be in Detroit, hopefully I can make my way into the feature match area again.
Also, Primer is about 25% done. Will probably finish it Sunday.
Sounds great, thanks. Just watched the Round 11 matchup with UR Eldrazi. Game one he had close to the nut draw and much like Affinity when your opponent lays his/her hand down on the table, its hard to battle back from that. Not tronning in either game was also some bad luck as well. Besides the small misplay, you did about all you could have done. Sometimes the cards don't fall your way. Can you remember what besides the Ratchet Bombs you boarded in in Game two? I know thats a lot of games to remember. And again, thanks for work on the primer. I'll also put my 2 cents in for Conduit of Ruin, it really does a lot of work. It becomes another Eye of Ugin for that first Eldrazi and it lets you tutor up that big Eldrazi. Sitting around waiting to top deck a big boy (Ulamog, Kozilek or Sower) hurts. Glad you are including it. I'm sticking with my 4 MD. Best wishes on Detroit. If we can help here let us know.
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If I were to play this again I'd replace Wurmcoil Engine for Godo, Bandit Warlord and add a Lightning Greaves to protect the bombs and have a better clock. I'd also run one extra World Breaker.
Interesting list, looks more TronDrazi than EldraziTron if you catch my meaning. I have actually been thinking about adding Batterskull as well. Running all those copies of the Chromatics, SS and Stirrings eats up a lot of card slots. I'm sticking colorless but good luck.
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The deck is labelled as Colorless Eldrazi, but it is definitely an EldraziTron deck.
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Played the deck with some success today at the local 62 man modern tuesday - went 4-0 with mostly 2-0 matches except against a bring to light deck and a grishoulbrand deck where i went 2-1.
Never played the deck before so I found it really hard to determine if you expedition for a tron piece or eldrazi piece. I would alsmost say that you fetch a temple first expedition and then fetch whatever you need on the second, and a tron piece or eye on the third.
Regarding Yale Congs deck, why does he have ensnaring bridge in the side - he cant do anything behind one? does he exile it when he has established a board with ulamog etc and swing in for an alpha strike?
That would be my guess on using Bridge. Interesting tactic. It is very challenging knowing what land to fetch. What is in my hand determines which direction I need to go. Look at casting costs and what turns you would like to cast them and make a judgement call. Sometimes its obvious what to fetch but other times it is much more difficult. Maybe someone else can chime in.
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From what I can tell Zach is 3-1 going into round 5 of the Detroit GP today. Best wishes Zach.
Will post up his list if I can find it.
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Would be nice if someone could post up Cedric's deck list at the Detroit GP. I will search around. Interesting that Zach responds in that link as well. Oblivion Stones seem to be playing well. I've noticed the All is Dust doesn't pull its weight with the current Eldrazi heavy meta. If a ban comes I believe All is Dust may get its day in the sun again.
Would love it if Cedric himself would join the conversation.
Here is my current deck list.
Mine still needs some more adjusting. 2 GC's are at least one too many. Emrakul probably needs to be replaced with a second copy of Ulamog. All is Dust needs to be pushed into the SB over another 2 Oblivion Stones (I'm using Perilous Vault right now as I don't have copies). I should probably go with a 3/2 split between Dismember and Warping Wail as well instead of 2 DM and 3 WW.
Batterskull should probably give way to a 3rd copy of either Mimic, Smasher, Seer or Sower.
Current Decklist:
Manabase will need to be reworked if Eye or Temple (OR BOTH) get the ban hammer in a few weeks from now. The deck will be slower for sure without them. Guess we will see what happens.
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I'm back to Endless One. I made the switch back from Matter Reshaper because I realized it's just more flexible. Undercosted early presence, check. Late game finisher that can hit for 10, check. Matter Reshaper is still on my radar, but I wanted to focus on beats for the moment.
Wastes is an all start. It's importance is continually growing because I keep running into a lot of Ghost Quarters and Path to Exiles. And for me in particular, I have a bad habit of drawing them, so I've upped my count to keep the odds in my favor. Also Blood Moon is a thing that can hurt a LOT with the mid-range threats, and more Wastes means better chances of not being thrown off colorless. I'm also considering Sea Gate Wreckage and Tomb of the Spirit Dragon, namely the latter, for those slots as well.
All is Dust is an AMAZING card... that does not fit into this meta.
Emrakul is in the side for two reasons. First, mill. A few people figured out that it can cheap shot Eldrazi decks every now and again, so the Grave trigger is occasionally important. And second is occasionally I run into hard control, and Emrakul is the go to answer. I may also consider original Kozilek because it's cheaper to cast.
Endbringer, I'm on the fence about, but I decided to give it a shot. I don't remember drawing it yet.
One thing I'm also considering is moving Ratchet Bomb to the Main. See if it can be of use since Affinity and Lingering Souls is a thing, and it's a sweeper that's easy to establish (and granted takes some work).
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I've been pondering Endbringer in either my Batterskull, Emrakul or Deceiver of Form slots. I may just try a Tomb of the Spirit Dragon in place of my second Ghost Quarter as well as I don't run Urborgs right now and the life loss from Dismember hurts at 4 life a pop. I'm with you, I like Ratchet Bomb. I may have to swap it MB with All is Dust.
Thanks for the input.
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How do you guys' think this deck fares with an Eye of Ugin ban? Can this version survive that considering it has other plays or is it basically dead afterwards?
It will survive, it just won't be quite as fast or explosive for certain lists heavy with Mimic, Endless One, Seer and Smasher. If both Temple and Eye get the ban then it gets slower still. Tronning on Turn 3 is still a powerful play regardless.
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4 Eldrazi Mimic
4 Matter Reshaper
4 Oblivion Sower
4 Reality Smasher
4 Thought-Knot Seer
1 Kozilek, the Great Distortion
2 Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger
Lands (24)
2 Wastes
4 Eldrazi Temple
4 Urza's Mine
4 Urza's Power Plant
4 Urza's Tower
3 Eye of Ugin
3 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
4 Expedition Map
Instants: 7
4 Dismember
3 Spatial Contortion
Sorceries: 2
2 All Is Dust
3 Chalice of the Void
2 Pithing Needle
2 Ratchet Bomb
3 Relic of Progenitus
3 Surgical Extraction
2 Conduit of Ruin
Reasons for changes:
Matter Reshaper over Endless One
This is a test because I like Matter Reshaper's ability to cantrip or advance the battlefield upon death. The reason I chose to cut Endless One is because while I love Endless one, it does not mix as well as I would like with Reshaper *and yes I know Reshaper's ability is a "may"*. I'm also considering cutting Mimic for something that has an impact ability or even swap those out for the Endless Ones, but for now I'm experimenting with utility over beats. This may not stick.
The second Wastes
After reading in this thread about Ghost Quarter underperforming, and I agree because I started with a verbatim netdeck, the second Wastes is my go to option because Path to Exile and Ghost Quarter are rampant. And I always found myself staring at my lone copy as they pathed/Strip Mined me, so the more the merrier.
All is Dust could use replacing or strictly sideboard, but I just used it tonight to play defeat a main deck Blood Moon (also another reason to increase odds of drawing Wastes with more copies). So it pulls its weight. Symmetrical solutions like Oblivion Stone hurt TronDrazi more than just Urzatron because we commit more to the field than them (i've played the deck a long time). Part of integrating Eldrazi and Tron together is that we occasionally get those sweet, sweet early swarms and then Oblivion Stone is odd. I'm not going to say no (It's also good at fighting through Blood Moon faster), but I have reservations.
Splashing Green for Ancient Stirrings and World Breaker would be awesome... if there was room in the mana base. Tron plays 6-8 lands that produce green, then 8 Chromatics. Even then the stars don't always align. And the reason I switched from GR Eldrazi to TronDrazi is they struggle with their Green from time to time and PAINFULLY with pain lands.
All that said, I think there is hope for this deck to catch on as one of the better versions of the Eldrazi Winter Archetype. It's at least one of the more fun ones. We only have a short time to master the deck.
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Yes, not having them in my sideboard is admittedly a mistake. We really thought bringing ghost quarters were the way to go, but this was not the case. I have since moved to 3 Sower, 1 conduit main, and 1 of each in the side. I also dropped GQ for a second wastes in the main. I highly disagree with your decision to cut Endless ones. It is one of the best creatures in the deck in my experience.
1. I can't be sure, I'm no Teferi. However, with some adjustments we certainly remain competitive.
2. Yes. It was my first time playing on camera and I think the pressure got to me, and I kept bad hands. But my round ?11? is on SCGLive.
3. Yes, http://www.twitch.tv/stlzach314/profile/highlights
Because of its power in non-eldrazi match ups I'm keeping 2 main. They are easy to side out in the eldrazi matchup and don't hurt too much having them in hand game 1. We usually surprise them game 1 anyway.
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I think after an eye of ugin ban we can move into more of a midrange-value shell with things like Reshaper.
I'll be in Detroit, hopefully I can make my way into the feature match area again.
Also, Primer is about 25% done. Will probably finish it Sunday.
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12 Tron
4 Grove of the Burnwillows
4 Eldrazi Temple
2 Eye of Ugin
1 Forest
2 Karn Liberated
1 All is Dust
1 World Breaker
4 Reality Smasher
4 Thought-Knot Seer
2 Sylvan Scrying
3 Expedition Map
1 Kozilek, the Great Distortion
2 Spatial COntortion
2 Batterskull
2 Wurmcoil Engine
4 Ancient Stirrings
1 Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger
1 Ugin the Spirit Dragon
4 Chromatic Sphere
2 Chromatic Star
2 Kozilek's Return
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Good:
Batterskull
Kozilek's Return
TKS
Smasher
World Breaker
Bad:
Wurmcoil Engine
Kozilek's Return
Sylvan Scrying
Chromatic Stars/Spheres
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If I were to play this again I'd replace Wurmcoil Engine for Godo, Bandit Warlord and add a Lightning Greaves to protect the bombs and have a better clock. I'd also run one extra World Breaker.
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The deck is labelled as Colorless Eldrazi, but it is definitely an EldraziTron deck.
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That would be my guess on using Bridge. Interesting tactic. It is very challenging knowing what land to fetch. What is in my hand determines which direction I need to go. Look at casting costs and what turns you would like to cast them and make a judgement call. Sometimes its obvious what to fetch but other times it is much more difficult. Maybe someone else can chime in.
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Will post up his list if I can find it.
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I believe Zach went 5-4 and didn't make day 2.
Still would like to hear his thoughts.
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He placed 14th at the Detroit GP with his EldraziTron deck.
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Would be nice if someone could post up Cedric's deck list at the Detroit GP. I will search around. Interesting that Zach responds in that link as well. Oblivion Stones seem to be playing well. I've noticed the All is Dust doesn't pull its weight with the current Eldrazi heavy meta. If a ban comes I believe All is Dust may get its day in the sun again.
Would love it if Cedric himself would join the conversation.
Here is my current deck list.
Mine still needs some more adjusting. 2 GC's are at least one too many. Emrakul probably needs to be replaced with a second copy of Ulamog. All is Dust needs to be pushed into the SB over another 2 Oblivion Stones (I'm using Perilous Vault right now as I don't have copies). I should probably go with a 3/2 split between Dismember and Warping Wail as well instead of 2 DM and 3 WW.
Batterskull should probably give way to a 3rd copy of either Mimic, Smasher, Seer or Sower.
Current Decklist:
4 Conduit of Ruin
2 Oblivion Sower
2 Reality Smasher
1 Batterskull
1 Deceiver of Form
2 Matter Reshaper
2 Thought-Knot Seer
1 Kozilek, the Great Distortion
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
1 Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger
4 Expedition Map
4 Mind Stone
2 All is Dust
2 Dismember
3 Warping Wail
1 Oblivion Stone
1 Ugin, the Spirit Dragon
4 Urza's Mine
4 Urza's Tower
4 Eldrazi Temple
1 Eye of Ugin
3 Sanctum of Ugin
2 Wastes
2 Ghost Quarter
2 Pithing Needle
2 Torpor Orb
2 Spellskite
1 Void Winnower
2 Ratchet Bomb
2 Spatial Contortion
2 Perilous Vault
Manabase will need to be reworked if Eye or Temple (OR BOTH) get the ban hammer in a few weeks from now. The deck will be slower for sure without them. Guess we will see what happens.
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4 Eldrazi Mimic
4 Endless One
4 Reality Smasher
4 Thought-Knot Seer
4 Oblivion Sower
1 Conduit of Ruin
1 Endbringer
1 Kozilek, the Great Distortion
2 Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger
3 Wastes
4 Eldrazi Temple
4 Urza's Mine
4 Urza's Power Plant
4 Urza's Tower
3 Eye of Ugin
3 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
Artifacts: 4
4 Expedition Map
Instants: 6
4 Dismember
2 Spatial Contortion
3 Chalice of the Void
2 Pithing Needle
2 Ratchet Bomb
2 Relic of Progenitus
3 Surgical Extraction
2 All is Dust
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
I'm back to Endless One. I made the switch back from Matter Reshaper because I realized it's just more flexible. Undercosted early presence, check. Late game finisher that can hit for 10, check. Matter Reshaper is still on my radar, but I wanted to focus on beats for the moment.
Wastes is an all start. It's importance is continually growing because I keep running into a lot of Ghost Quarters and Path to Exiles. And for me in particular, I have a bad habit of drawing them, so I've upped my count to keep the odds in my favor. Also Blood Moon is a thing that can hurt a LOT with the mid-range threats, and more Wastes means better chances of not being thrown off colorless. I'm also considering Sea Gate Wreckage and Tomb of the Spirit Dragon, namely the latter, for those slots as well.
All is Dust is an AMAZING card... that does not fit into this meta.
Emrakul is in the side for two reasons. First, mill. A few people figured out that it can cheap shot Eldrazi decks every now and again, so the Grave trigger is occasionally important. And second is occasionally I run into hard control, and Emrakul is the go to answer. I may also consider original Kozilek because it's cheaper to cast.
Endbringer, I'm on the fence about, but I decided to give it a shot. I don't remember drawing it yet.
One thing I'm also considering is moving Ratchet Bomb to the Main. See if it can be of use since Affinity and Lingering Souls is a thing, and it's a sweeper that's easy to establish (and granted takes some work).
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I've been pondering Endbringer in either my Batterskull, Emrakul or Deceiver of Form slots. I may just try a Tomb of the Spirit Dragon in place of my second Ghost Quarter as well as I don't run Urborgs right now and the life loss from Dismember hurts at 4 life a pop. I'm with you, I like Ratchet Bomb. I may have to swap it MB with All is Dust.
Thanks for the input.
STOP using "dude/bro" as a pejorative or insult. Grow up.
Margaret Thatcher: “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
Benjamin Franklin: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Martin Luther King Jr.: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
Modern: Eldrazi CB,
STOP using "dude/bro" as a pejorative or insult. Grow up.
Margaret Thatcher: “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
Benjamin Franklin: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Martin Luther King Jr.: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
4x endless one
4x matter reshaper
4x thought-knot seer
4x reality smasher
3x oblivion sower
1x ulamog, the ceaseless hunger
4x expedition map
4x oblivion stone
4x dismember
4x eldrazi temple
3x urborg, tomb of yawgmoth
1x wastes
4x urza's tower
4x urza's mine
4x urza's power plant
1x oblivion sower
1x ulamog, the ceaseless hunger
4x gut shot
3x relic of progenitus
3x ratchet bomb
3x chalice of the void
my own sideboard is slightly different. i've dropped a single gut shot for 1x spatial contortion, as it kills eldrazi displacer.
really streamlined deck. almost entirely 4-ofs. i really like it a lot.