I also wanted to bring up helix versus boros charm. Helix is an always will be amazing, but in this deck it seems like boros charm is a potential game changer/win. In metas full of abrupt decay it saves your combo, it protects your Geist beats and it gives extra reach to close out games. What are your guys thoughts on it?
I think Valorous Stance is better. It can protect your creature or act like removal. If Boros was able to deal 4 damage to a creature or player, I would definitely be playing it.
if decay is giving you trouble might I recommend dropping a twin and possibly a geist (4 serum visions will find the three of and cuts down akword double geist hands) for some restoration angel action, also I'd try. Cryptic in the main as it feels criminal to play giest at all without at least one to tap there team and draw a card or bounce a snap to do it again next turn, then again your list seems hyper burn focused so I'm not really sure how to approach it. P.s. have you tested avenue mindsensor out of the board? I'm curious as to how it is vs. grafdigers cage.
I guess what I like about boros charm is it works well with geist specifically. Lets you swing with geist when you need to. Protects your combo, allows the angel to sneak in for double damage and can straight give your deck a bit more reach with burn to the face or planeswalker.
This is my current list and SB. I am testing it on cockatrice with some degree of success. Junk variants are difficult because of abrupt. I am 50-50 with pod and have had some epic matches.
I think I need to change out the Cryptic in my SB for something else. I almost never side them in. Maybe Helix's or Grim Lavamancers. Or even just some negates.
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If you are having trouble with pod the add stony silence or shadow of doubt to the SB. Shadow breaks their pod chain and removes a creature from the board and you draw.
I intend to try the list below in LGS this week or so. Will appreciate if you guys can give me some feedback on it. Sideboard isn't really thought of yet though.. just something that i am thinking of as well only.
What do you guys think about a singleton Sun Titan or Inferno Titan? Sun Titan basically recurs any of our creatures and if you drop a Twin on it things can become silly. Inferno Titan is just awesome burn, but I think over the Sun Titan has much more utility.
Gives some protection against lily and discard, not to mention can stone wall a rhino or Goyf.
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No idea because my favorite decks keep getting banned or having the rules changed against them
So I'm not really sure what the ideal manabase is for this deck. I'm running 4 Twin and 2 Kiki right now (is that even still good?) so my mana looks like this:
I've always like fetching up extra basics, in particular Mountains, and maybe it's better if I even consider adding more basics. I also don't think 4 Flooded Strands are that great when I actively want the Mountain. This is mostly because my list has a lot of non-blue cards and double/triple reds. I am currently not running any Cryptics so triple blue isn't an issue.
When it comes to aggro decks, we have no hope of racing them and our only option is to beat them with our combo. Thankfully, we are much more defensive than UR and RUG twin and will survive much longer to assemble the combo.
this isn'ttrue at all, iI've raced agro plenty of times you just have to view all of your creature combo prices as winter flames and run a bit more removal eventually your restoration angels will gain you enough value in combat to win.
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I don't have Scalding Tarns so the manabase is a little weird, but nothing else with the list is budget. I really like the Kor Firewalkers in the sideboard because I hate losing to burn. I'm wondering if any Cryptic Commands would be good. It seems like they cost too much mana for what I'm trying to do (would need 8 mana if wanted to use it to protect combo so it needs to be good enough just doing other things), but I see a lot of twin decks run them so I'm not sure.
I been playing with uwr mid range and control for a while now and was thinking about switching to uwr twin. I wanted to know how it would compared to uwr kiki midrange and would it win more or less the same match ups as us?
My list that's been having pretty decent success online. I'm never really getting the Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker out there though, so I'm wondering if those 2 slots would be better used for something else. I've never missed the Colonnade's, which is why I'm not running them. Serum Visions is a great turn 1 play, but I wish there was an instant speed cantrip that was on the same level as it so I could hold up lightning bolt and path to exile.
For the sideboard, dispel is only really coming in vs burn and other twin decks, there's probably something better there, and stony silence is left over from when pod was a thing, not sure what to put there, I feel like I have enough affinity hate already.
This is the deck im currently running, what changes do you think i should make to the deck to make it better? I have not thought about running Celestial Colonnade because i think its a bit mana intensive for the deck.
When i vs mirror or ur twin, i would side in wear//tear,negate,dispel,Vendilion Clique,Celestial Purge and counterflux. Had i have combust in sideboard i would side that in too. Post board i would basically want to be the more beat down deck but also have the chance to combo off. So I would keep in some of the combo
I dont particularly like Dragon's Claw and would rather have celestial purge because of the match ups vs junk, jund and twin. I also like counterflux
Vs RG Tron i would side out the Electrolyze,Lightnging Bolts for Stony silence, Counterflux and Negate. I believe the key to wininng tron is comboing early and keeping tron from becoming active. So stuff like sowing salts, ghost quarters/tectonic edge are also not bad here
I would rather leyline of sanctity over dragon's claw as it helps the burn matchup and to a certain extent against gbx decks. I probably wouldn't not run more than 2 sideboard.
I have the feeling graveyard hate cards such as tormod's crypt, Grafdigger's Cage, rest in peace,relic of progentius or Nihil Spellbomb will help deal with tarmogoyf and scavenging ooze to a certain extent.
The extra Snapcaster Mage has helped a lot. Not sure if Keranos belongs in my sideboard and i am always contemplating on using relic of progenitus or rest in peace.
1. What changes to my sideboard or deck if any would you guys make if the meta in your area was a bit of everything (There is uwr midrange,naya zoo, rg tron, uw tron, ad nauseam,soul sisters, splinter twin, jund,junk, ub faeries,Ubw mill,merfolk,burn and affinity) but no amulet bloom,infect or hate bears.
2. I am not sure if the manabase I have is correct for my deck.
3. I'm also tempted to sideboard a thundermaw hellkite but I am not sure if that's the right decision.
Don't play the deck, but wanted to share hilarious sideboard "tech" I got to see today from a URW twin deck. It was Jund vs you and Jund won a close first game. The second and third games on the other hand, the Jund player lost with a Rakdos Charm in hand, due to 3 sideboard Soul's Attendant. Neither myself, or the Jund player saw that coming, so kudos to you guys and gals.
Not exactly how I wanted to solve the problem, but looks like tons of Junk/Jund will be returning. So now we need to counter hand destruction.
2 Celestial Colonnade
4 flooded strand
4 scalding tarn
3 steam vents
1 cascade bluffs
2 sacred foundry
1 hallowed fountain
2 islands
2 plains
1 mountain
1 ejganjo castle
creatures
4 geist of saint traft
4 deceiver exarch
1 pestermite
2 snapcaster mage
4 lightning bolt
4 serum vision
3 lightning helix
2 path to exile
3 remands
2 valorous stance
1 cryptic command
2 monastery siege
2 gitxian probe
3 splinter twin
3 leyline of sanctity
1 keranos, god of storm
1 batterskull
2 enginnered explosives
2 stony silence
2 anger of the gods
1 dispel
2 spellskite
1 wrath of god
Gives some protection against lily and discard, not to mention can stone wall a rhino or Goyf.
4 Scalding Tarn
4 Flooded Strand
2 Sacred Foundry
2 Steam Vents
2 Hallowed Fountain
2 Mountain
1 Island
1 Plains
1 Cascade Bluffs
1 Sulfur Falls
I've always like fetching up extra basics, in particular Mountains, and maybe it's better if I even consider adding more basics. I also don't think 4 Flooded Strands are that great when I actively want the Mountain. This is mostly because my list has a lot of non-blue cards and double/triple reds. I am currently not running any Cryptics so triple blue isn't an issue.
Grixis Death's Shadow, Jund, UW Tron, Jeskai Control, Storm, Counters Company, Eldrazi Tron, Affinity, Living End, Infect, Merfolk, Dredge, Ad Nauseam, Amulet, Bogles, Eldrazi Tron, Mono U Tron, Lantern, Mardu Pyromancer
4 Celestial Colonnade
2 Arid Mesa
4 Flooded Strand
2 Hallowed Fountain
1 Sacred Foundry
3 Steam Vents
1 Seachrome Coast
3 Sulfur Falls
2 Island
1 Mountain
1 Plains
4 Geist of Saint Traft
4 Snapcaster Mage
3 Deceiver Exarch
3 Pestermite
3 Splinter Twin
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Path to Exile
4 Serum Visions
1 Dispel
2 Mana Leak
3 Remand
1 Batterskull
3 Kor Firewalker
2 Lightning Helix
3 Wear // Tear
1 Spellskite
2 Grim Lavamancer
1 Splinter Twin
1 Negate
1 Dispel
1 Spell Snare
I don't have Scalding Tarns so the manabase is a little weird, but nothing else with the list is budget. I really like the Kor Firewalkers in the sideboard because I hate losing to burn. I'm wondering if any Cryptic Commands would be good. It seems like they cost too much mana for what I'm trying to do (would need 8 mana if wanted to use it to protect combo so it needs to be good enough just doing other things), but I see a lot of twin decks run them so I'm not sure.
http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/deck-guide-modern-uwr-twin/
Speaking of the OP, I have also updated my list in the wake of the pod bannings.
To be frank, I don't think the deck is incredibly well-positioned now, though it still has pretty fair game across the board.
Modern: Jund Legacy: RUG Delver EDH: Captain Sisay
4 Deceiver Exarch
2 Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
4 Restoration Angel
2 Snapcaster Mage
4 Wall of Omens
Spells
3 Lightning Bolt
2 Lightning Helix
3 Path to Exile
4 Remand
4 Serum Visions
4 Splinter Twin
2 Island
1 Mountain
2 Plains
2 Arid Mesa
2 Flooded Strand
3 Scalding Tarn
2 Hallowed Fountain
4 Sacred Foundry
4 Steam Vents
2 Tectonic Edge
2 Wear // Tear
2 Sowing Salt
2 Engineered Explosives
2 Dispel
2 Lightning Helix
1 Stony Silence
2 Ajani Vengeant
2 Celestial Purge
My list that's been having pretty decent success online. I'm never really getting the Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker out there though, so I'm wondering if those 2 slots would be better used for something else. I've never missed the Colonnade's, which is why I'm not running them. Serum Visions is a great turn 1 play, but I wish there was an instant speed cantrip that was on the same level as it so I could hold up lightning bolt and path to exile.
For the sideboard, dispel is only really coming in vs burn and other twin decks, there's probably something better there, and stony silence is left over from when pod was a thing, not sure what to put there, I feel like I have enough affinity hate already.
Modern: Jund Legacy: RUG Delver EDH: Captain Sisay
2 Arid Mesa
1 Cascade Bluffs
1 Desolate Lighthouse
4 Flooded Strand
2 Hallowed Fountain
2 Island
1 Mountain
1 Plains
1 Sacred Foundry
3 Scalding Tarn
3 Steam Vents
2 Sulfur Falls
Creatures (12)
4 Deceiver Exarch
1 Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
3 Restoration Angel
2 Snapcaster Mage
1 Spellskite
1 Village Bell-Ringer
1 Dispel
1 Electrolyze
4 Lightning Bolt
2 Lightning Helix
3 Path to Exile
2 Peek
3 Remand
4 Serum Visions
4 Splinter Twin
1 Spell Snare
2 Anger of the Gods
1 Batterskull
2 Celestial Purge
1 Counterflux
1 Dispel
1 Engineered Explosives
1 Keranos, God of Storms
1 Negate
2 Stony Silence
2 Wear // Tear
1 Vendilion Clique
This is the deck im currently running, what changes do you think i should make to the deck to make it better? I have not thought about running Celestial Colonnade because i think its a bit mana intensive for the deck.
I dont particularly like Dragon's Claw and would rather have celestial purge because of the match ups vs junk, jund and twin. I also like counterflux
Vs RG Tron i would side out the Electrolyze,Lightnging Bolts for Stony silence, Counterflux and Negate. I believe the key to wininng tron is comboing early and keeping tron from becoming active. So stuff like sowing salts, ghost quarters/tectonic edge are also not bad here
I have the feeling graveyard hate cards such as tormod's crypt, Grafdigger's Cage, rest in peace,relic of progentius or Nihil Spellbomb will help deal with tarmogoyf and scavenging ooze to a certain extent.
The extra Snapcaster Mage has helped a lot. Not sure if Keranos belongs in my sideboard and i am always contemplating on using relic of progenitus or rest in peace.
2 Arid Mesa
1 Cascade Bluffs
1 Desolate Lighthouse
4 Flooded Strand
2 Hallowed Fountain
2 Island
1 Mountain
1 Plains
1 Sacred Foundry
3 Scalding Tarn
3 Steam Vents
2 Sulfur Falls
Creatures (12)
4 Deceiver Exarch
1 Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
3 Restoration Angel
3 Snapcaster Mage
1 Spellskite
1 Dispel
1 Electrolyze
4 Lightning Bolt
2 Lightning Helix
3 Path to Exile
1 Peek
4 Remand
4 Serum Visions
4 Splinter Twin
1 Spell Snare
2 Anger of the Gods
1 Batterskull
2 Celestial Purge
1 Counterflux
1 Dispel
1 Engineered Explosives
1 Keranos, God of Storms
1 Negate
2 Stony Silence
2 Wear // Tear
1 Vendilion Clique
I have a few questions:
1. What changes to my sideboard or deck if any would you guys make if the meta in your area was a bit of everything (There is uwr midrange,naya zoo, rg tron, uw tron, ad nauseam,soul sisters, splinter twin, jund,junk, ub faeries,Ubw mill,merfolk,burn and affinity) but no amulet bloom,infect or hate bears.
2. I am not sure if the manabase I have is correct for my deck.
3. I'm also tempted to sideboard a thundermaw hellkite but I am not sure if that's the right decision.
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