It could work, having a footsteps in your hand would be the only downside, but if your not playing heavy dredge it could work, try it out and let us know? Also its 2 dollars for a playset of each
Value is good. But Dredgevine isn't supposed to be about value. It's supposed to be about V-8; 2000 pounds of nitro boosted war vegetables. The more velocity, the better.
Modern:
DredgeVine EDH:
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
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Not sure I see it. Just as a Gravecrawler/Bloodghast sac outlet? Double-playing Crawlers is always nice, but I'm not sure the synergy exists otherwise. (Sac a Crawler, draw a Vengevine? Wah wah.) Worth experimenting as a 1-of, but I expect to find it's not good.
I was thinking more a long the lines of a sac outlet to avoid path, and as a sac outlet anytime our creature would die without it. that way our creature dies like it was going to but we also get a new creature in hand
It's a bit of a shame Leap and Despoiler are so close, yet so far away. Only thing Origins looks like it has for us is maybe Jace and Liliana.
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I tested footsteps and flayer and it seemed to work very very well. It seemed like if I had a footsteps in my opening hand I couldn't lose. The synergy with Bloodghast is amazing. I pull one game out of my ass when I played footsteps on flayer, discarded 2 Bloodghast to Lotleth, then brought 3 Bloodghast back, dealing 6 damage, 10 total for the turn, giving the bloodghasts haste, I swing for lethal. My 4-3 Lotleth is blocked by tasigur but the flayer sacrificing himself at the end of turn deals 5 more damage for the win. I dealt 21 damage on turn 4 without Vengevine.
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What do you guys think about llanowar mentor? I've looked at it in the past for other decks but the disadvantage of discarding a card made it hard to work. Discarding cards in our deck isn't a disadvantage and we're getting extra mana/creatures out of it.
Value is good. But Dredgevine isn't supposed to be about value. It's supposed to be about V-8; 2000 pounds of nitro boosted war vegetables. The more velocity, the better.
Modern:
DredgeVine EDH:
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Anima Standard:
The thing I don't like about llano war mentor is that you can't use it more then once a turn, or at all the turn it comes out. And you can't use the tokens abilitys the turn they come out either
Footsteps of the Goryo is extremely subpar and situational. It doesn't do much good for the deck other than maybe slap them with a Vine that just gets sac'ed at EOT.
I think this list from a recent daily could be worth a look.
No Bloodghasts, and 14 inst/sorc as opposed to only 10 or so like most builds from this thread. Also, even with no bloodghasts he felt the need to run 22 land. Which seems high to me, but its something to consider.
I'm not playing footsteps of the goryo because it's a good card. I'm playing because it's a peice of an excellent combo for a secondary win-con. I don't think twin would run pestermite if it wasn't part of the combo
the new survival thing is super win more. the deck creates ca just dumping into the gy. it s a waste of 3 mana. the deck is pretty streamlined as is. best thing you can do with it is go greedy 4 c to improve it. crab and looting for two op t1 plays
If you open with a Gyoro and can dredge aggresively I can see a turn 4 win easy. Say they take 3 damage from lands and you have 2 bloodghasts to spit out. Play goryo->Flayer->Land->2 Bloodghast/swing->flayer dies and returns.
Value is good. But Dredgevine isn't supposed to be about value. It's supposed to be about V-8; 2000 pounds of nitro boosted war vegetables. The more velocity, the better.
Modern:
DredgeVine EDH:
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Anima Standard:
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-H. P. Lovecraft
This could be the real deal
Modern:
DredgeVine
EDH:
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Anima
Standard:
I think this list from a recent daily could be worth a look.
No Bloodghasts, and 14 inst/sorc as opposed to only 10 or so like most builds from this thread. Also, even with no bloodghasts he felt the need to run 22 land. Which seems high to me, but its something to consider.
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Modern:
DredgeVine
EDH:
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Anima
Standard: