From bozwell saying that "lingering souls is SUCH a bad card" despite the fact that many lingering soul decks did well this weekend to "path to exile is a horrible card"
Most notably: Only 3 Infect decks made it into the top 12 and thus underperform hard. Otherwise (discounting top 8 and only counting from 9-32 place) 9 linear decks (Dredge, Infect, Affinity, Amulet Bloom (I will stick to this name, even though Bloom is banned) but no Burn), only 3 semi fair decks (Eldrazi Tron, UWR Aggro) and the rest are all interactive decks (Meerfolk, Jund, Kiki Chord, Grixis Control, Jeskai Flash, Blue Moon,...).
Kinda surprised at that turn out, after seeing the day 2 metagame.
Greetings,
Kathal
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Modern/Legacy
either funpolice (Delver, Deathcloud, UW Control) or the fun decks (especially those ft. Griselbrand)
Most notably: Only 3 Infect decks made it into the top 12 and thus underperform hard. Otherwise (discounting top 8 and only counting from 9-32 place) 9 linear decks (Dredge, Infect, Affinity, Amulet Bloom (I will stick to this name, even though Bloom is banned) but no Burn), only 3 semi fair decks (Eldrazi Tron, UWR Aggro) and the rest are all interactive decks (Meerfolk, Jund, Kiki Chord, Grixis Control, Jeskai Flash, Blue Moon,...).
Kinda surprised at that turn out, after seeing the day 2 metagame.
Greetings,
Kathal
So uh Corey Buckhart's Grixis control deck put in a top 16 performance.
@Equinox2793 - I see you've deleted your comment. So much for that Dredge win.
Cool to see Tron win through Affinity and Dredge to clinch the win. Interesting to see no Infect in the top 16 after having 12% of the day 2 metagame share. Also a lot more control-ish decks in the top 32. Seems like the meta is slowly realigning.
Seems like that guy that said Dredge was gonna win was a bit preemptive
and yeah, I like Tom Ross as much as the next guy, but these commentators need to at least make an effort to be unbiased
SCG commentators being biased. Why I never...
If Lantern is right then people have found the right number of hate cards for dredge. Meaning it'll be another affinity we have to sideboard for , but will ultimately be fine outside of the fact that it plays outside of the bounds of normal magic.
@Equinox2793 - I see you've deleted your comment. So much for that Dredge win.
Cool to see Tron win through Affinity and Dredge to clinch the win. Interesting to see no Infect in the top 16 after having 12% of the day 2 metagame share. Also a lot more control-ish decks in the top 32.
Being able to run Anger MD while not screwing up your own win cons (Nahiri) is great. It looks like, that from the tier 1 decks only Burn and Eldrazi are not that great but otherwise? Might be something worth exploring imo.
Greetings,
Kathal
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What I play or have:
Modern/Legacy
either funpolice (Delver, Deathcloud, UW Control) or the fun decks (especially those ft. Griselbrand)
Not a fan of a cheater winning the tournament. Legends shouldn't get special treatment for getting busted on stream.
I hope someone busts you and crucifies you for it as well then.
Mistakes happen, always give the benefit of the doubt. When the evidence stacks up, then execute.
You HAVE to admit that it looks super bad on SCG for not even issuing the guy a warning when he gets caught in front of 1000s of people watching and he is in the featured match. If that's a no name, the guy is issued a warning or thrown out of the tournament. Because it's Tom Ross, it is a "mistake." They have video evidence of him cheating. It's not like this is some kind of hearsay.
Not a fan of a cheater winning the tournament. Legends shouldn't get special treatment for getting busted on stream.
I hope someone busts you and crucifies you for it as well then.
Mistakes happen, always give the benefit of the doubt. When the evidence stacks up, then execute.
You HAVE to admit that it looks super bad on SCG for not even issuing the guy a warning when he gets caught in front of 1000s of people watching and he is in the featured match. If that's a no name, the guy is issued a warning or thrown out of the tournament. Because it's Tom Ross, it is a "mistake." They have video evidence of him cheating. It's not like this is some kind of hearsay.
no they don't it's incredibly hard to get video evidence of intent
You HAVE to admit that it looks super bad on SCG for not even issuing the guy a warning when he gets caught in front of 1000s of people watching and he is in the featured match. If that's a no name, the guy is issued a warning or thrown out of the tournament. Because it's Tom Ross, it is a "mistake." They have video evidence of him cheating. It's not like this is some kind of hearsay.
Even in the example video, Ross got almost no strategic value from that cheating, and the results of the game would not have been different. It was (probably) an honest mistake. Intent is vital for cheating. Top players make mistakes all the time, believe it or not.
Can somebody enlighten me on what exactly happened?
Greetings,
Kathal
From Reddit: "At this point in the turn, Tom has 5 lands in play and hasn't yet made his land drop for the turn. Tom uses his Ghost Quarter on Jeff's Sacred Foundry. After Jeff fetches a basic mountain, Tom casts Expedition Map and quickly searches up a second Ghost Quarter, plays it (his land drop for the turn), and immediately uses it to destroy Jeff's Stomping Ground. He then proceeds by playing what looks like a Razorverge Thicket tapped, making his second land drop for the turn."
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Modern RGTron UGInfect URStorm WUBRAd Nauseam BRGrishoalbrand URGScapeshift WBGAbzan Company WUBRGAmulet Titan BRGLiving End WGBogles
I agree that the commentators were HORRIFIC to listen too. Literally no clue about the format.
However I don't think it was a poor weekend for modern. On the contrary I would say it was the 2nd consecutive awesome weekend. Yes linear decks are still the most popular but the dredge/infect or bust seems to be thinning. In day 2 we had: 3 Grixis Control lists, 3 Sun and Moon, 2 Jeskai Flash, 1 Mardu control, 1 Kiki-Chord, 2 Madcap Moon (essentially a control deck), 1 Bant Spirits, 1 Grixis Delver and 1 Esper Control. Compare these results to say, september-october where control was literally nowhere to be seen and we are already heading into a better situation. These are already 15 nice interactive decks in addition to the 4 Jund decks. We are looking at a nice 19 diverse lists which play the interactive game and most of them also look to play on the opponents turn.
Still, there is some underepresentation of control but not even close to what it used to be (absolute zero). Sure there is also still room for the unbanning/printing of some good control cards without breaking the format. People however just need to take the courage and sleeve up those control cards and practice/tune.
The problem (as I saw it), was simply Tom playing the GQ almost like a spell. He short-cut the play by searching out the GQ, targeting Jeff's land and then binning the card (he never put it into play). Later he played the GW land to finish the turn.
Its an easy mental mistake to make, especially in a long tournament setting.
just came in here to say wow.
Abzan Traverse / Traverse Shadow / UR Kiki
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
Besides this, interesting top 8. 2 "fair" decks, 2 semi fair decks and 4 rather linear decks.
Btw. top 32 are up: http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/deckshow.php?&t%5BC1%5D=28&start_date=11/11/2016&end_date=11/13/2016&start=1&finish=32&city=Columbus&state=OH&limit=50
Most notably: Only 3 Infect decks made it into the top 12 and thus underperform hard. Otherwise (discounting top 8 and only counting from 9-32 place) 9 linear decks (Dredge, Infect, Affinity, Amulet Bloom (I will stick to this name, even though Bloom is banned) but no Burn), only 3 semi fair decks (Eldrazi Tron, UWR Aggro) and the rest are all interactive decks (Meerfolk, Jund, Kiki Chord, Grixis Control, Jeskai Flash, Blue Moon,...).
Kinda surprised at that turn out, after seeing the day 2 metagame.
Greetings,
Kathal
Modern/Legacy
either funpolice (Delver, Deathcloud, UW Control) or the fun decks (especially those ft. Griselbrand)
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
So uh Corey Buckhart's Grixis control deck put in a top 16 performance.
and yeah, I like Tom Ross as much as the next guy, but these commentators need to at least make an effort to be unbiased
Cool to see Tron win through Affinity and Dredge to clinch the win. Interesting to see no Infect in the top 16 after having 12% of the day 2 metagame share. Also a lot more control-ish decks in the top 32. Seems like the meta is slowly realigning.
SCG commentators being biased. Why I never...
If Lantern is right then people have found the right number of hate cards for dredge. Meaning it'll be another affinity we have to sideboard for , but will ultimately be fine outside of the fact that it plays outside of the bounds of normal magic.
To be fair, Dredge is probably favored in that matchup 70/30. But turn 1 Relic on the play game 1 and a mulligan to 5 game 2 probably didn't help.
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
To my credit, Tom Ross is a cheat. (https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/5co986/tom_ross_plays_2_lands_in_one_turn_vs_jeff/)
Decks I'm playing in Modern right now:
URB Grixis Reveler (http://www.mtgvault.com/supast4r7/decks/modern-grixis-reveler/)
UB Faeries (http://www.mtgvault.com/supast4r7/decks/ub-fae-2/)
UW Azorious Control (http://www.mtgvault.com/supast4r7/decks/modern-ojutai-control-2/)
Being able to run Anger MD while not screwing up your own win cons (Nahiri) is great. It looks like, that from the tier 1 decks only Burn and Eldrazi are not that great but otherwise? Might be something worth exploring imo.
Greetings,
Kathal
Modern/Legacy
either funpolice (Delver, Deathcloud, UW Control) or the fun decks (especially those ft. Griselbrand)
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
Not a fan of a cheater winning the tournament. Legends shouldn't get special treatment for getting busted on stream.
Decks I'm playing in Modern right now:
URB Grixis Reveler (http://www.mtgvault.com/supast4r7/decks/modern-grixis-reveler/)
UB Faeries (http://www.mtgvault.com/supast4r7/decks/ub-fae-2/)
UW Azorious Control (http://www.mtgvault.com/supast4r7/decks/modern-ojutai-control-2/)
I hope someone busts you and crucifies you for it as well then.
Mistakes happen, always give the benefit of the doubt. When the evidence stacks up, then execute.
You HAVE to admit that it looks super bad on SCG for not even issuing the guy a warning when he gets caught in front of 1000s of people watching and he is in the featured match. If that's a no name, the guy is issued a warning or thrown out of the tournament. Because it's Tom Ross, it is a "mistake." They have video evidence of him cheating. It's not like this is some kind of hearsay.
Decks I'm playing in Modern right now:
URB Grixis Reveler (http://www.mtgvault.com/supast4r7/decks/modern-grixis-reveler/)
UB Faeries (http://www.mtgvault.com/supast4r7/decks/ub-fae-2/)
UW Azorious Control (http://www.mtgvault.com/supast4r7/decks/modern-ojutai-control-2/)
Standard: lol no
Modern: BG/x, UR/x, Burn, Merfolk, Zoo, Storm
Legacy: Shardless BUG, Delver (BUG, RUG, Grixis), Landstill, Depths Combo, Merfolk
Vintage: Dark Times, BUG Fish, Merfolk
EDH: Teysa, Orzhov Scion / Krenko, Mob Boss / Stonebrow, Krosan Hero
Even in the example video, Ross got almost no strategic value from that cheating, and the results of the game would not have been different. It was (probably) an honest mistake. Intent is vital for cheating. Top players make mistakes all the time, believe it or not.
you seem like a fun guy to be around
Greetings,
Kathal
Modern/Legacy
either funpolice (Delver, Deathcloud, UW Control) or the fun decks (especially those ft. Griselbrand)
From Reddit: "At this point in the turn, Tom has 5 lands in play and hasn't yet made his land drop for the turn. Tom uses his Ghost Quarter on Jeff's Sacred Foundry. After Jeff fetches a basic mountain, Tom casts Expedition Map and quickly searches up a second Ghost Quarter, plays it (his land drop for the turn), and immediately uses it to destroy Jeff's Stomping Ground. He then proceeds by playing what looks like a Razorverge Thicket tapped, making his second land drop for the turn."
RGTron
UGInfect
URStorm
WUBRAd Nauseam
BRGrishoalbrand
URGScapeshift
WBGAbzan Company
WUBRGAmulet Titan
BRGLiving End
WGBogles
However I don't think it was a poor weekend for modern. On the contrary I would say it was the 2nd consecutive awesome weekend. Yes linear decks are still the most popular but the dredge/infect or bust seems to be thinning. In day 2 we had: 3 Grixis Control lists, 3 Sun and Moon, 2 Jeskai Flash, 1 Mardu control, 1 Kiki-Chord, 2 Madcap Moon (essentially a control deck), 1 Bant Spirits, 1 Grixis Delver and 1 Esper Control. Compare these results to say, september-october where control was literally nowhere to be seen and we are already heading into a better situation. These are already 15 nice interactive decks in addition to the 4 Jund decks. We are looking at a nice 19 diverse lists which play the interactive game and most of them also look to play on the opponents turn.
Still, there is some underepresentation of control but not even close to what it used to be (absolute zero). Sure there is also still room for the unbanning/printing of some good control cards without breaking the format. People however just need to take the courage and sleeve up those control cards and practice/tune.
UB Faeries (15-6-0)
UWR Control (10-5-1)/Kiki Control/Midrange/Harbinger
UBR Cruel Control (6-4-0)/Grixis Control/Delver/Blue Jund
UWB Control/Mentor
UW Miracles/Control (currently active, 14-2-0)
BW Eldrazi & Taxes
RW Burn (9-1-0)
I do (academic) research on video games and archaeology! You can check out my open access book here: https://www.sidestone.com/books/the-interactive-past
because it can T3 a Karn.
Its an easy mental mistake to make, especially in a long tournament setting.
http://www.cubetutor.com/visualspoiler/20765