Quote from Soliidan »Hi everyone, I have been playing this deck for years, ever since you would just jam 4 rhinos into your deck, although my question is that is anyone still playing abzan? I'm just worried that jund does what this deck wants to do but better now, so what have people been doing to keep this deck relevant?
Quote from Soliidan »After that post, I went to modern thinking that the deck just couldn't hold up anymore although I managed to go 3-1. FYI I am running the centralized list.
The first match was against grixis control and I went 0-2. At no point did I think I would be able to out-grind this deck, they just have too much late game with tasigur, JTMS and Kcommand, I tried siding in Gideon AoZ although trying to fight the late game felt bad.
The next 3 matches were burn and two mardo pyro lists and I 2-0'ed each match. In these games, lingering souls really did a lot of work, mainly stabilizing the board until I found removal, so I was still happy that I was running white. Siege rhino though felt like it did very little other than against burn, it always just ate a removal spell after investing 4 mana into it.
So I have also decided that the low to the ground BG splash white deck is probably the way to go. Lingering souls is still an amazing card for BGx and there are two lantern players at my LGS so stony silence is worth playing white for. The reason I want to go lower to the ground is to get under the other midrange and control decks running JTMS and BBE, I don't think there is another option for beating them as now they do just out value us.
Quote from devtin »I think Damping Spehere will definitely find a home in sideboard as a one or two. I agree that Surgicals appears to be the logical card to cut. I could also see cutting both surgicals for one sphere and for another bullet card like Thrunn. the only concern I have is it may mean tron runs 3-4 natures claim as there will always be a good target.
Quote from devtin »yeah you are right besides stonies. So likely 3-4 targets. I think it will likely be the combination of cards will be telling in how games play out.
I hope now we get some people back on the abzan forum. The centralised list is still good and Jund has a big target on its back. Havent seen as many good placings for Jund recently
Quote from Catherine Cook »You know, this is a kind of deck I don't particularly like and I don't think I'd ever play (mainly because of Tarmo)... But I wanted to stop by and congratulate the OP for the absolutely beautiful formatting of the guide. This has got to be the tidiest, most visually pleasing primer I've ever had the pleasure of reading.
Quote from Merovek »A few months ago I was very intrigued by Jadine Klomparens' Traverse Abzan build. http://www.starcitygames.com/article/35557_Abzan-Traverse-For-SCG-Syracuse.html
What do you guys think about it? Is it still relevant in the meta - or was it never any good for mere mortal players?
Quote from Merovek »
What makes it unreliable in your opinion? The delirium activation?
Also; I have to agree with a previous user. You make some of the best primers there are.
Quote from Pe7er89 »
No offense, But I don't really get this comparison. It's body is the same for the cost, sure, with flash in addition.
But how is Resto better overall? Shalai has two amazing abilities.
Resto doesn't add to the lategame plan like Shalai's township ability and might protect like one dude instead of yourself and all your creatures and planeswalkers...