I don't recommend aven. If your gonna play hate I would recommend Thalia guardian of thraeben. Unless titan shift is big in your meta. Also reflector would be great over it.
I am actually very unsure about whether Vizier Knightfall is better or not. I haven't had time to play test it yet and since I keep drawing well with Knightfall, I am having a lot of fun with it!
I just talked with Kelvin Chew and he thinks that regular knightfall is better than vizier knightfall right now. I'll continue to play regular knightfall for this pptq season, just trying to guess the best SB configuration.
I play regular Knightfall, but I've also watched others play Vizier Knightfall locally, so here is how I currently feel about the two: Strangely, it's not the combo that seems to be great in Vizier Knightfall, it's the fact they play 2-4 Eternal Witnesses. Getting back CoCo and Path really advances the board state. I'm not sure if EWit can be good in regular Knightfall though.
Re: sideboard. I'm becoming very comfortable with 2 Staticaster, 3 Unified Will, 1 Path (I play 3 Paths mainboard), 2 Phyrexian Revoker, 1 Bojuka Bog, 1 Dusk/Dawn, 1 Ghost Quarter, and I'm still considering the other 4 flex spots.
Unified Will should be great vs TitanShift. Revoker and UWill great vs. Tron. Maybe I should add something to side out Reflector Mages when they aren't as useful. The main thing about the trend of having Flashfreeze and Ceremonious Rejection in SB is that I've been using my SB much less since the meta varies so much. It's a tough call these days.
I also want to improve matches versus similar CoCo decks. I think maybe a third Tireless Tracker might be good.
What reasoning did Mr. Chew have on why regular knightfall is better?
Heres my quick argument for the combo- Having access to infinite mana on turn 3 pretty consistently is pretty awesome IMHO. I'm failing to see why people don't see that getting these instant wins is crazy. Having played with the druid/vizier thing in this shell and in abzan, people get scared and defensive when they see you're on the combo, so much so that sometimes they start giving up on their own plan to try to stop you, which is a true power. They know one company on their end step can end the game, same with chord, or just letting a druid resolve on turn 2 and live. It's insane the power we have and the combo is game breaking if you can sink it into dusk watch, chaining wit to company or chord, ballista, or in the knight version kessig (rhonas if you want). Many ways to get there, and only about like 5% of the time have i had infinite mana with nothing to do with it which are odds I'll take.
I'm guessing one argument is that all these creatures suck on their own, which is true- but with chord, company, ewit you can reassemble pretty easily to be honest, and outside of somebody surgicaling your druid and company in the same game (this happened to me once and I got the win anyways) you can get there eventually.
second argument I'd guess---Spell Queller. The card is great of course, but not good enough for me to give up free wins and I've have trouble in my meta at least having them live to see the light of day.
Regular knightfall is so fun to play and if you like interacting or grinding more than thats great, but if you like winning the combo makes too much sense to deny to me.
What reasoning did Mr. Chew have on why regular knightfall is better?
Heres my quick argument for the combo- Having access to infinite mana on turn 3 pretty consistently is pretty awesome IMHO. I'm failing to see why people don't see that getting these instant wins is crazy. Having played with the druid/vizier thing in this shell and in abzan, people get scared and defensive when they see you're on the combo, so much so that sometimes they start giving up on their own plan to try to stop you, which is a true power. They know one company on their end step can end the game, same with chord, or just letting a druid resolve on turn 2 and live. It's insane the power we have and the combo is game breaking if you can sink it into dusk watch, chaining wit to company or chord, ballista, or in the knight version kessig (rhonas if you want). Many ways to get there, and only about like 5% of the time have i had infinite mana with nothing to do with it which are odds I'll take.
I'm guessing one argument is that all these creatures suck on their own, which is true- but with chord, company, ewit you can reassemble pretty easily to be honest, and outside of somebody surgicaling your druid and company in the same game (this happened to me once and I got the win anyways) you can get there eventually.
second argument I'd guess---Spell Queller. The card is great of course, but not good enough for me to give up free wins and I've have trouble in my meta at least having them live to see the light of day.
Regular knightfall is so fun to play and if you like interacting or grinding more than thats great, but if you like winning the combo makes too much sense to deny to me.
He didn't give me any reasons (didn't ask about them, just asked which GWx coco deck he felt was better positioned, since he plays all of them except abzan) but I kind of agree with that. In an unknown metagame, I think that classic knightfall can do better than vizier. It isn't like you are removing the 2 drops and adding the combo - you're changing the whole structure and gameplan (no queller, chord, witness, no path...) and that changes how lots of matchups play out. You get lots of percentage points vs tron and valakut, but you lose them vs burn, shadow and random interactive/grindy decks.
In the end, this is always a meta question. Here in Spain (and in Europe in general, AFAIK) "unknown meta" means lots of interactive and grindy decks. We had a day 1 metagame breakdown of a recent big tournament here and +60% were GBx/UBx decks. In this conditions, I'm much more willing to take something resilient to discard and removal. I know that other places of the world have more tron/valakut/noninteractive decks and I can see how you prefer something that wins fast.
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Hello everyone I'll be going to a PPTQ this weekend, and I am pretty new to this deck (Though I play mostly creature based decks like Death & Taxes and Collected Humans, so I have some experience I guess), so I was hoping for some feedback on the list. I'll include reasons for card choices based on the most relevant matchups I am expecting. I was a fan of the list that won GP Sao Paulo, so you will notice a lot of similarities in the lists. E-Tron - I've only played against this once, so I'm not too sure how this matchup is supposed to go. I've considered playing Reflector Mage in place of Finks because it seems good against Thought-Knot Seer. Is Stony Silence or Qasali Pridemage worth bringing in against them? Death's Shadow - I am pretty confident in this matchup because of our deck's sheer ability to grind with Tireless Tracker Finks makes for a good chump blocker. Crusader and Bojuka Bog from the board seem good here. Affinity - Obviously they can have nuts hands that no deck can beat, but I am confident in this matchup given our number of flyers and even mainboard artifact hate. Literally 60% of the sideboard can come in against them Burn - The mainboard Finks, Thalia and Spell Quellers seem good, and Flashfreeze is great out of the board. Death & Taxes - If I'm not mistaken, We are D&T's nightmare matchup, as we have mana dorks to fight through land destruction, not many noncreature spells, and all of our creatures are just better than theirs... UW Control - This matchup feels a bit shaky on paper. Thalia, Selfless Spirit, and Queller seem good, but is anything in the board as I have it good? Titanshift - I'm not too sure how this is supposed to go. Obviously this is most of the reason why Flashfreeze is present. Spell Queller seems decent. I've considered Aven Mindcensor in the Finks slot as well for this reason. Vizier/Druid Combo - Another shaky matchup. Aside from Path and Queller, there isn't much interaction to be had... Is Flashfreeze worth bringing in for their Chord/Coco's? Storm - This matchup seems fine, between Quellers, Thalias, and Flashfreeze.
Slots I'm not sold on at this point are the 2 Finks in the main and the 2 Stony Silence in the side. Any changes you guys would recommend based on the top decks right now? Also any general advice for the deck would be appreciated. As I said, I am pretty new...
I never saw Tamiyo in my hand, but I think she is a good card and can surprise your opponent.
The main deck was fine, Geist and Thalia were much better than I tought. Side was changed in the last minutes, but I think that need more changes, like Explosives, maybe Dusk, Blessed, etc.
Last pptq result with traditional knightfall a dissapointing 1-3 drop.
Bw eldrazi 2-0:a few mistakes of my opponent and cocos gave me the victory.
Grixis ds 0-2:no cocos neither pte. Removal for all my creatures (including two of them for finks), and ds+ds. 3 reflectors didn't help.a
Elves 0-2: one of the worst pairings in my opinion. Both games he win without attacking, with shaman and chord for shaman.
Uw control 1-2: gideon won game 1 for him, Game 2 coco son the game. Game 3 vendilion show me his hand: 2 supreme verdict, 2 path, d-sphere. He won with gideon again.
For the next one I'm trying to decide between traditional again or humans knightfall.
Disappointing result but sometimes it happens. Mind sharing your list?
You should give humans knightfall a go, it's really fun and very solid. Some notable players and streamers have been jamming it recently to good results. Joel Larsson went 22-3 or something in 5 competitive leagues in the past week. Hoogland 7-2ed an online ptq. Personally, I play Kelvin Chew's more 2-drop heavy list with some adaptations and it's been performing well.
Guys please opinions on japanese cards. Lost a 3/3 creature against Japan celestial colonade. This guy played all creatures and spells in english cards, but some cards in his manabase was japanese. I dont registrated this really ( my brain say its all fine and all english to me lets attack his empty board)...and i am sure it is a Kind of legal cheating. It is not ok, but i know legal. I Hate such people. I never forget colonade normally, but with this Tricks it can happen one time in 3 years and such people take advantage of this
If I am a customer spending premium amount of dollars, I expect a premium service. Jund falls into the category of a premium deck costing more dollars than a majority of the rest of the format. I'm not getting the desired performance ratio per dollars spent out of the Jund deck because WOTC decided to make the format more diverse.
Hello everyone I'll be going to a PPTQ this weekend, and I am pretty new to this deck (Though I play mostly creature based decks like Death & Taxes and Collected Humans, so I have some experience I guess), so I was hoping for some feedback on the list. I'll include reasons for card choices based on the most relevant matchups I am expecting. I was a fan of the list that won GP Sao Paulo, so you will notice a lot of similarities in the lists. E-Tron - I've only played against this once, so I'm not too sure how this matchup is supposed to go. I've considered playing Reflector Mage in place of Finks because it seems good against Thought-Knot Seer. Is Stony Silence or Qasali Pridemage worth bringing in against them? Death's Shadow - I am pretty confident in this matchup because of our deck's sheer ability to grind with Tireless Tracker Finks makes for a good chump blocker. Crusader and Bojuka Bog from the board seem good here. Affinity - Obviously they can have nuts hands that no deck can beat, but I am confident in this matchup given our number of flyers and even mainboard artifact hate. Literally 60% of the sideboard can come in against them Burn - The mainboard Finks, Thalia and Spell Quellers seem good, and Flashfreeze is great out of the board. Death & Taxes - If I'm not mistaken, We are D&T's nightmare matchup, as we have mana dorks to fight through land destruction, not many noncreature spells, and all of our creatures are just better than theirs... UW Control - This matchup feels a bit shaky on paper. Thalia, Selfless Spirit, and Queller seem good, but is anything in the board as I have it good? Titanshift - I'm not too sure how this is supposed to go. Obviously this is most of the reason why Flashfreeze is present. Spell Queller seems decent. I've considered Aven Mindcensor in the Finks slot as well for this reason. Vizier/Druid Combo - Another shaky matchup. Aside from Path and Queller, there isn't much interaction to be had... Is Flashfreeze worth bringing in for their Chord/Coco's? Storm - This matchup seems fine, between Quellers, Thalias, and Flashfreeze.
Slots I'm not sold on at this point are the 2 Finks in the main and the 2 Stony Silence in the side. Any changes you guys would recommend based on the top decks right now? Also any general advice for the deck would be appreciated. As I said, I am pretty new...
If you've never played the deck before, I would suggest running through the combo process multiple times. It's somewhat complicated to do in paper magic. You need to always know what fetchables are left in your deck, and how much life you can pay with your fetches and shocks. Here's some notes on the matchups you asked about: E-Tron:You are the aggressor. The card you need to be careful about is All Is Dust. Stony is pretty solid, but I'm not sold on Qasali. Reflector Mage is great in this matchup. I would suggest trying to fit 3 in the board. It's just a great card overall. Death's Shadow: Normally a solid matchup, but without any VoRs and Reflector mages, not quite as good for you. Be careful against Anger of the Gods post board. Can sometimes be a blowout. I usually side out some Quellers here. Death & Taxes: Use fetchlands asap. Their searching disruption cards are good against you, but your creatures usually outsize them. UW Control: It's a weird matchup. Don't overextend into a boardwipe. One play pattern I like to use in this matchup is forcing your opponent into a Boardwipe, and quellering that card or resolving a CoCo right after it. Tireless Tracker is a beast in this one. This matchup really just resolves around Supreme Verdict. Qasali Pridemages have some targets like D-Sphere and Crucible, so I wouldn't side them out. Your board kinda sucks for this one. Usually the deck plays negate/unifiedwill/disdainful as counterspells, and you can bring those in for this matchup, but your counter suite doesn't really help here. TitanshiftRough matchup. Gotta race. be careful of Anger post board. Queller can hit scapeshift, but can also eat a bolt from an active valakut, so I like trying to queller the ramp spells early.
As for the board, I would probably cut the Mirran Crusaders and play 3 Reflector Mages. You bring them in for WAY more matchups than Mirran Crusader. And they are still great vs GDS decks, although not exactly lights out.
@brosterman
Thanks for the feedback. Reflector Mage was always nuts in the humans deck, so I will give him a shot. I should have info on the event some time next week.
I haven't got cavern of souls for the humans list, so I'm between: gavony township (don't know what isn't played in the deck), another fetchlands or razorverge thicket.
You can run those instead but you'll have to alter the 'standard' sideboard because you can't consistently support staticasters/renegades without cavern.
Guys please opinions on japanese cards. Lost a 3/3 creature against Japan celestial colonade. This guy played all creatures and spells in english cards, but some cards in his manabase was japanese. I dont registrated this really ( my brain say its all fine and all english to me lets attack his empty board)...and i am sure it is a Kind of legal cheating. It is not ok, but i know legal. I Hate such people. I never forget colonade normally, but with this Tricks it can happen one time in 3 years and such people take advantage of this
If I am a customer spending premium amount of dollars, I expect a premium service. Jund falls into the category of a premium deck costing more dollars than a majority of the rest of the format. I'm not getting the desired performance ratio per dollars spent out of the Jund deck because WOTC decided to make the format more diverse.
Windswept Heath x 4
Wooded Foothills x 4
Flooded Strand x 2
Breeding Pool x 2
Sacred Foundry x 1
Temple Garden x 1
You don't NEED Misty Rainforest in all my experience playing the deck, you just need lots of access to green. Whether or not you play red, your choices are between Stomping Ground and Sacred Foundry. If you play Sacred Foundry, the land list above has NO difference in consistency (it's actually better to fetch Breeding Pool + Sacred Foundry because you have access to ALL ur spells mana wise compared to fetching Breeding Pool + plains + Stomping Ground for all your colours).
Anyone ever thought of running Kira, Great Glass Spinner in the deck? She seems perfect in the shell. We are at heart a tempo deck and anything that we make our opponents waste is good for us. The mana base might need to be adjusted to make her more feasible. Let me know your thoughts!
Guys please opinions on japanese cards. Lost a 3/3 creature against Japan celestial colonade. This guy played all creatures and spells in english cards, but some cards in his manabase was japanese. I dont registrated this really ( my brain say its all fine and all english to me lets attack his empty board)...and i am sure it is a Kind of legal cheating. It is not ok, but i know legal. I Hate such people. I never forget colonade normally, but with this Tricks it can happen one time in 3 years and such people take advantage of this
If I am a customer spending premium amount of dollars, I expect a premium service. Jund falls into the category of a premium deck costing more dollars than a majority of the rest of the format. I'm not getting the desired performance ratio per dollars spent out of the Jund deck because WOTC decided to make the format more diverse.
Anyone ever thought of running Kira, Great Glass Spinner in the deck? She seems perfect in the shell. We are at heart a tempo deck and anything that we make our opponents waste is good for us. The mana base might need to be adjusted to make her more feasible. Let me know your thoughts!
Woah, I'd never thought of that. It's very powerful in vizier version to protect your combo pieces and it gets hit by COCO. When can also counter spells by flashing it in with chord or CoCo. I'm surely gonna try it out.
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I just talked with Kelvin Chew and he thinks that regular knightfall is better than vizier knightfall right now. I'll continue to play regular knightfall for this pptq season, just trying to guess the best SB configuration.
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Re: sideboard. I'm becoming very comfortable with 2 Staticaster, 3 Unified Will, 1 Path (I play 3 Paths mainboard), 2 Phyrexian Revoker, 1 Bojuka Bog, 1 Dusk/Dawn, 1 Ghost Quarter, and I'm still considering the other 4 flex spots.
Unified Will should be great vs TitanShift. Revoker and UWill great vs. Tron. Maybe I should add something to side out Reflector Mages when they aren't as useful. The main thing about the trend of having Flashfreeze and Ceremonious Rejection in SB is that I've been using my SB much less since the meta varies so much. It's a tough call these days.
I also want to improve matches versus similar CoCo decks. I think maybe a third Tireless Tracker might be good.
What reasoning did Mr. Chew have on why regular knightfall is better?
Heres my quick argument for the combo- Having access to infinite mana on turn 3 pretty consistently is pretty awesome IMHO. I'm failing to see why people don't see that getting these instant wins is crazy. Having played with the druid/vizier thing in this shell and in abzan, people get scared and defensive when they see you're on the combo, so much so that sometimes they start giving up on their own plan to try to stop you, which is a true power. They know one company on their end step can end the game, same with chord, or just letting a druid resolve on turn 2 and live. It's insane the power we have and the combo is game breaking if you can sink it into dusk watch, chaining wit to company or chord, ballista, or in the knight version kessig (rhonas if you want). Many ways to get there, and only about like 5% of the time have i had infinite mana with nothing to do with it which are odds I'll take.
I'm guessing one argument is that all these creatures suck on their own, which is true- but with chord, company, ewit you can reassemble pretty easily to be honest, and outside of somebody surgicaling your druid and company in the same game (this happened to me once and I got the win anyways) you can get there eventually.
second argument I'd guess---Spell Queller. The card is great of course, but not good enough for me to give up free wins and I've have trouble in my meta at least having them live to see the light of day.
Regular knightfall is so fun to play and if you like interacting or grinding more than thats great, but if you like winning the combo makes too much sense to deny to me.
He didn't give me any reasons (didn't ask about them, just asked which GWx coco deck he felt was better positioned, since he plays all of them except abzan) but I kind of agree with that. In an unknown metagame, I think that classic knightfall can do better than vizier. It isn't like you are removing the 2 drops and adding the combo - you're changing the whole structure and gameplan (no queller, chord, witness, no path...) and that changes how lots of matchups play out. You get lots of percentage points vs tron and valakut, but you lose them vs burn, shadow and random interactive/grindy decks.
In the end, this is always a meta question. Here in Spain (and in Europe in general, AFAIK) "unknown meta" means lots of interactive and grindy decks. We had a day 1 metagame breakdown of a recent big tournament here and +60% were GBx/UBx decks. In this conditions, I'm much more willing to take something resilient to discard and removal. I know that other places of the world have more tron/valakut/noninteractive decks and I can see how you prefer something that wins fast.
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Time to hop on the bandwagon guys
*fixed the city.
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There is an IQ list from this last weekend that uses the 3 combos:
Knightfall
Druid
Finks
Looks intersting at the same time that looks unstable.
4x Noble Hierarch
3x Path to Exile
3x Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
2x Selfless Spirit
1x Qasali Pridemage
3x Tireless Tracker
1x Eternal Witness
4x Spell Queller
4x Knight of the Reliquary
2x Kitchen Finks
2x Retreat to Coralhelm
4x Flooded Strand
4x Windswept Heath
2x Misty Rainforest
1x Hallowed Fountain
1x Temple Garden
1x Breeding Pool
4x Forest
2x Plains
1x Island
1x Seijiri Steppe
1x Gavony Township
1x Ghost Quarter
2x Stony Silence
1x Path to Exile
3x Ceremonious Rejection
3x Flashfreeze
1x Qasali Pridemage
2x Phyrexian Revoker
1x Bojuka Bog
Hello everyone I'll be going to a PPTQ this weekend, and I am pretty new to this deck (Though I play mostly creature based decks like Death & Taxes and Collected Humans, so I have some experience I guess), so I was hoping for some feedback on the list. I'll include reasons for card choices based on the most relevant matchups I am expecting. I was a fan of the list that won GP Sao Paulo, so you will notice a lot of similarities in the lists.
E-Tron - I've only played against this once, so I'm not too sure how this matchup is supposed to go. I've considered playing Reflector Mage in place of Finks because it seems good against Thought-Knot Seer. Is Stony Silence or Qasali Pridemage worth bringing in against them?
Death's Shadow - I am pretty confident in this matchup because of our deck's sheer ability to grind with Tireless Tracker Finks makes for a good chump blocker. Crusader and Bojuka Bog from the board seem good here.
Affinity - Obviously they can have nuts hands that no deck can beat, but I am confident in this matchup given our number of flyers and even mainboard artifact hate. Literally 60% of the sideboard can come in against them
Burn - The mainboard Finks, Thalia and Spell Quellers seem good, and Flashfreeze is great out of the board.
Death & Taxes - If I'm not mistaken, We are D&T's nightmare matchup, as we have mana dorks to fight through land destruction, not many noncreature spells, and all of our creatures are just better than theirs...
UW Control - This matchup feels a bit shaky on paper. Thalia, Selfless Spirit, and Queller seem good, but is anything in the board as I have it good?
Titanshift - I'm not too sure how this is supposed to go. Obviously this is most of the reason why Flashfreeze is present. Spell Queller seems decent. I've considered Aven Mindcensor in the Finks slot as well for this reason.
Vizier/Druid Combo - Another shaky matchup. Aside from Path and Queller, there isn't much interaction to be had... Is Flashfreeze worth bringing in for their Chord/Coco's?
Storm - This matchup seems fine, between Quellers, Thalias, and Flashfreeze.
Slots I'm not sold on at this point are the 2 Finks in the main and the 2 Stony Silence in the side. Any changes you guys would recommend based on the top decks right now? Also any general advice for the deck would be appreciated. As I said, I am pretty new...
Just minor changes in the side board.
4x Noble Hierarch
4x Spell Queller
4x Reflector Mage
3x Geist of Saint Traft
3x Voice of Resurgence
2x Scavenging Ooze
2x Kitchen Finks
2x Thalia, Heretic Cathar
1x Qasali Pridemage
1x Eternal Witness
1x Tamiyo, Field Researcher
4x Collected Company
4x Path to Exile
4x Misty Rainforest
2x Temple Garden
2x Breeding Pool
1x Hallowed Fountain
1x Botanical Sanctum
1x Razorverge Thicket
1x Horizon Canopy
1x Gavony Township
2x Forest
1x Plains
1x Island
2x Negate
2x Unified Will
1x Ceremonious Rejection
2x Kitchen Finks
1x Qasali Pridemage
1x Selfless Spirit
1x Mirran Crusader
1x Aven Mindcensor
1x Linvala, Keeper of Silence
RG Ponza (2-1)
GW Hexproof (2-1)
Mardu Tokens (2-0)
Skred (2-0)
I never saw Tamiyo in my hand, but I think she is a good card and can surprise your opponent.
The main deck was fine, Geist and Thalia were much better than I tought. Side was changed in the last minutes, but I think that need more changes, like Explosives, maybe Dusk, Blessed, etc.
Disappointing result but sometimes it happens. Mind sharing your list?
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If you've never played the deck before, I would suggest running through the combo process multiple times. It's somewhat complicated to do in paper magic. You need to always know what fetchables are left in your deck, and how much life you can pay with your fetches and shocks. Here's some notes on the matchups you asked about:
E-Tron:You are the aggressor. The card you need to be careful about is All Is Dust. Stony is pretty solid, but I'm not sold on Qasali. Reflector Mage is great in this matchup. I would suggest trying to fit 3 in the board. It's just a great card overall.
Death's Shadow: Normally a solid matchup, but without any VoRs and Reflector mages, not quite as good for you. Be careful against Anger of the Gods post board. Can sometimes be a blowout. I usually side out some Quellers here.
Death & Taxes: Use fetchlands asap. Their searching disruption cards are good against you, but your creatures usually outsize them.
UW Control: It's a weird matchup. Don't overextend into a boardwipe. One play pattern I like to use in this matchup is forcing your opponent into a Boardwipe, and quellering that card or resolving a CoCo right after it. Tireless Tracker is a beast in this one. This matchup really just resolves around Supreme Verdict. Qasali Pridemages have some targets like D-Sphere and Crucible, so I wouldn't side them out. Your board kinda sucks for this one. Usually the deck plays negate/unifiedwill/disdainful as counterspells, and you can bring those in for this matchup, but your counter suite doesn't really help here.
TitanshiftRough matchup. Gotta race. be careful of Anger post board. Queller can hit scapeshift, but can also eat a bolt from an active valakut, so I like trying to queller the ramp spells early.
As for the board, I would probably cut the Mirran Crusaders and play 3 Reflector Mages. You bring them in for WAY more matchups than Mirran Crusader. And they are still great vs GDS decks, although not exactly lights out.
Thanks for the feedback. Reflector Mage was always nuts in the humans deck, so I will give him a shot. I should have info on the event some time next week.
You can run those instead but you'll have to alter the 'standard' sideboard because you can't consistently support staticasters/renegades without cavern.
Windswept Heath x 4
Wooded Foothills x 4
Flooded Strand x 2
Breeding Pool x 2
Sacred Foundry x 1
Temple Garden x 1
You don't NEED Misty Rainforest in all my experience playing the deck, you just need lots of access to green. Whether or not you play red, your choices are between Stomping Ground and Sacred Foundry. If you play Sacred Foundry, the land list above has NO difference in consistency (it's actually better to fetch Breeding Pool + Sacred Foundry because you have access to ALL ur spells mana wise compared to fetching Breeding Pool + plains + Stomping Ground for all your colours).
I'd like to try the deck and need a starting point
Woah, I'd never thought of that. It's very powerful in vizier version to protect your combo pieces and it gets hit by COCO. When can also counter spells by flashing it in with chord or CoCo. I'm surely gonna try it out.