goyf is a huge issue for me that slips under our land destruction, because jund will fetch basic forests and swamps asap and keeping them under 2 mana is hard unless they get unlucky and draw less lands than u LD.
I'd like to know how people deal with resolved 5/6s and 4/5s if they don't find one of the 2 copies of inferno titan. BBE being a 3/2 is the compromise we took for that cascade value, but quite often it gets walled out by goyf in BGx matches. Sometimes I draw my Chameleon Colossus and win that way, but that isn't something I want to count on.
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Couldn´t we bring JTMS as a one or two off?
No suggestion is a stupid suggestion until fully explored. Whilst I do like the idea of locking an opponent out of the game with Jace's ability, I think the double blue is just out of reach for us. We would consistently need Utopia + dork, or two non-elf dorks. This seems unlikely to guarantee on curve or consistently, making Jace a risk play. I suppose the mana could be tweaked a bit, or we could run a lands-focused package including Snake, but for a "normal" Ponza list the requirement for double-red kinda overshadows the double blue. Give it a go and let us know however, if you fancy.
Regards deck price. I managed to successfully purchase two Chandra on the morning they released she was going to be in the standard event deck. You will also be pleased to know I purchased my playset of Blood Moons two days before they were leaked as being in the next Masters set. Luckily these were the last cards I needed for the paper deck, so there is no chance of a surprise like that again.
goyf is a huge issue for me that slips under our land destruction, because jund will fetch basic forests and swamps asap and keeping them under 2 mana is hard unless they get unlucky and draw less lands than u LD.
I'd like to know how people deal with resolved 5/6s and 4/5s if they don't find one of the 2 copies of inferno titan. BBE being a 3/2 is the compromise we took for that cascade value, but quite often it gets walled out by goyf in BGx matches. Sometimes I draw my Chameleon Colossus and win that way, but that isn't something I want to count on.
Beast Within turns goyf into a 3/3. Sometimes it can also be raced with a Titan or Stormbreath. Thrag tusk can trade with a 4/5 goyf.
Scavenging ooze from the sideboard can shrink the goyf... we are mostly forests, so ooze will have a lot of green mana to use. And the ooze can sometimes grow large enough to challenge the goyf.
Anyway below are the matches if anyone is interested. I need plenty more reps with the deck, but it feels powerful.
Match 1 was a stock jund list with BBE. 2-1. I won the die roll, and game was T1 spawn my forest, t2 blood moon him out. He fetches a swamp with moon on the stack and played bob next turn. I just rained the swamp and we went to game 2. G2 I kept a 1 lander with sprawl/elf on a null to 6 and was punished for it. Game 3 was very sim Late to game 1 and I just locked him out early. Boarded in hazoret, thragtusk and took out the acid moss and a bird on the draw.
Match 2 was abzan elves. 2-0. Game one was kinda grindy and he resolved 3 shaman of the packs on me. Courser lifegain was clutch as was nissa. I just flooded the board with saprolings and when he finally stuck a lord and swung in I used beast within on a land and killed his heritage Druid. Eventually wrapped it up with stormbreath in the air after locking him off black mana. Game 2 he had a pretty gbarly kill to 5 and I just rained his lands into oblivion and he only ever had 3 dorks. I boarded in slagatorm and hazoret, and hazoret finished the game by slinging 3 spells in one turn on like round 6ish. He has chumps for days. Took the moons, acid moss, and something else for the titans, slagatorm a, and hazoret.
Match 3 was temur good stuff with Jace, BBE, visions etc. 2-1 won in turns on turn 5. Game one I got destroyed by goyfs and a start that was just as fast. He hit his coursers first and just out drew me. Game 2 scooze kept goyf in check after some early trades and grew out of removal range. I kept him off blue and eventually got through his BOP in the air for lethal. Game 3 took like 30 minutes and was super grindy. I eventually resolved a Chandra, scooze ate both graveyards to 0, and then stormbreath off the top. He resolved two ancestral visions before I blood mooned to lock him out. I then just rained all his basics.
Match for was RW burn. Pretty stock without the green splash for sideboard junk. We don't have a ton of people that play artifact stuff, so he streamlined his mana/sideboard for RW. 2-0. Game 1 was won off the back of a T2 courser. Game 2 he landed an eidolon and had me at 4. I eventually dropped a stormbreath to block and then resolved a finks to stay at 4. Luckily he didn't have a spell to respond to finks lol. Was dicey but I felt favored with 6 maindexk lifegain spells.
It's been awhile since I played a deck that felt this competitive. I feel like BBE and Chandra was quite the shot in the arm as I've taken other lists for a spin here and there and I felt like my dig/reach was always lacking. I'll happily invest in finishing out the deck, it just feels great. Courser is really the full package for me and what makes the deck tick. It gains life, it chumps, its pseudo card draw. It's just excellent.
Before running this through a competitive league I cut 2 Ooze and the 1 Huntmaster for 2 Blood Moon and a 21st land. I also cut the 2 Crashers and the Finks in the SB for a Thragtusk and 2 Roast.
I ended up going 4-1 in the league, only losing to a Hollow One/Vengevine deck who, in game 3 on the play went T1 cycle Street Wraith, land Looting discard 2 Vengevine, cast 2 Hollow One. There isn't a deck in modern capable of beating that draw so I guess i'm ok with that being my only loss. But the deck did feel pretty good, I had been playing stock ponza online for about a week before this and was winning at a somewhat decent rate but there are a handful of games where you draw Stone Rain and it's just a blank piece of cardboard, I wanted to try this to have more individually powerful cards while keeping the busted mana acceleration of Elf+Sprawl and the best disruption in the format, Blood Moon.
Madcap is pretty much not gonna fly now that BBE is back, that's my guess.
I was thinking that as well, but after crunching the games against bloodbraid elf decks they are still dealing with it using maindeck terminate or maelstrom pulse at about the same rate. It still steals games against those over invested in fatal push as their main deck choice of removal.
sideboard still the same story for those colors, incomes the ancient grudges.
decks running jace, the mind sculptor are a bit different in that they have a bounce effect on a stick, but usually thats a blue white configuration and the emperion was already vulnerable to path to exile.
Old Ponza focused on ramp into big finishers which Acid Moss was apart of but because BBE can’t cascade into it we still need relevant land destruction targets and Molten Rain is the only other card to consider that is at 3CMC or under.
Hazoret should be mainboarded. Its pretty ridiculous. It can take the place of acid moss in your deck currently.
Focus on buying Sprawl > Stomping > Trinisphere > BM/Chandra. Also get more trackers to replace beast within.
Ordered most everything tonight. Looks like some of the prices are drifting up. I just need two trackers and another trinisphere now. A friend of mine has the hazoret. I will try it main next week, seems very strong against my current meta.
I'm playing GR LD for two years (for me it evolved from GR Tooth and Nail) and now I feel that it's in its best shape. Tried a lot of different versions, now I'm playing this:
1st time I'm playing 22 lands and it feels OK. 21 lands were risky. 2 Titans are also OK without Acid-Moss. Replaced them with 2 Molten Rains, which are cool with Elf. Elf is a star! All deck is built to get max from him. 3 Finks and Primal Command - 4 lifegain cards in main, I think it's minimum when we play against Burn. Tireless Trackers are awesome, always side them in in greedy matchups. About Lightning Bolts: I think we need some pre-sideboard interaction with Devouted Druids, Humans, Merfolks and other stuff. Also it's good from BBE.
Choke in SB is fantastic.
Playtested a lot last night with my buddy who has big Jacekai and mardu put together. Was really impressed with the consistency of the deck and how powerful it felt. Went 7-1 against him with 4 games (not matches) of him on each deck. To be fair I think most midrange/control matchups are good for ponza aside from those that run tarmogoyf- I'm guessing jund is probably the worst midrange matchup for the deck. Blood moon obviously was the all star versus jeskai, and inferno titan was the curve topping bomb that helped win most games against mardu. Bloodbraid and tracker really feel like they give the deck a lot of "glue," as in it helps you maintain your LD game plan and cascade/draw into more fuel- basically they kept the game plan coherent whenever they hit the board. With molten rain in the deck it's really important to have an extra fetchland to be able to get stomping ground turn 2- thus I have 4 foothills and then 5 split green fetchlands. I liked chandra a lot- I found her ramp to be very relevant with stone and molten rain, and giving the deck an extra source of removal/card advantage seemed like it was exactly where I wanted to be in a deck that can run out of gas so quickly. Courser of kruphix I also liked a lot as a 1-of (I never want to have more than 1 in any game, and I don't need it to win, so 1 was fine) as an extra BBE hit and it also had some nice "lantern" synergies with BBE and chandra.
I goldfished a lot the evening prior with a list similar to the one that won the dutch modern open series (4 stone rain, 4 blood moon, 4 molten rain, 2 acid moss)- I felt like a lot of openers were really really sketchy trying to get double red for molten rain- so I cut 2 of them and replaced with 1x courser and 1 more tracker to finish out the playset. I also cut one birds for a basic because I just felt that it would be better to minimize the "bad" bloodbraid hits. Here's the list- stormy b definitely felt like the weakest card in the deck- although I understand it's been a mainstay and that it dodges the 3 most common removal spells in the format (push, bolt, path) a 4/4 for 5 is not really what I'm interested in doing in modern. I might be underselling the card though because it is a solid clock that can go over the top of the majority of decks in the format. Anyway, here's the list:
Played 3 Friendly Modern Leagues in MTGO with deck above.
1) 3-2.
Lost to Burn 0-2 and Grixis Shadow 1-2. A lot of mulligans and bad hands against them. Won UW, UWR and some deck I forgot about (upd: it was UB MIll).
2) 4-1.
2-0 vs Turns.
2-0 vs Colorless Eldrazi. (guy with 7 undefeated trophies couldn't do anything)
2-0 vs UWR.
2-1 vs UR Pyromancer/Thing in the Ice.
1-2 vs Hollow One from screen above. 1st game - win. Good match, Titan won it. 2nd game - turn 0 lose. I think such things shouldn't exist in Modern. 3rd game was even, bad topdecks were reason of my lose.
3) 4-1.
2-1 vs Burn.
2-0 vs BBE Land Destroy.
2-1 vs Gr Tron.
2-0 vs Gr Tron.
1-2 vs Affinity. Lost 1st, won 2nd, mull to 4 in 3rd...
Well now that it has been spoiled that Blood Moon will be in M25 it is going to drop the cost of the deck down a considerable amount. That along with the new precon deck that has Chandra and Hazoret make it much more affordable. This means more people will become more interested in the deck so the primer may get a flood of questions from newer players. I’m not sure who is in charge of the primer but maybe we should have 2 parts (one being old Ponza and one with BBE) as they are 2 different decks now.
True. However, if the archetype starts to gain momentum then the price choke point will shift to the next fundamental piece of the deck; I'd expect a Utopia Sprawl or Tracker spike (assuming neither gets a reprint anytime soon), so if anyone is lurking and hasn't built the deck yet then they'll wanna jump on those two sooner than later.
Utopia Sprawl is also in the set now as well so it is just Tracker which has seen some increases over the last couple of weeks already.
Well now that it has been spoiled that Blood Moon will be in M25 it is going to drop the cost of the deck down a considerable amount. That along with the new precon deck that has Chandra and Hazoret make it much more affordable. This means more people will become more interested in the deck so the primer may get a flood of questions from newer players. I’m not sure who is in charge of the primer but maybe we should have 2 parts (one being old Ponza and one with BBE) as they are 2 different decks now.
True. However, if the archetype starts to gain momentum then the price choke point will shift to the next fundamental piece of the deck; I'd expect a Utopia Sprawl or Tracker spike (assuming neither gets a reprint anytime soon), so if anyone is lurking and hasn't built the deck yet then they'll wanna jump on those two sooner than later.
Utopia Sprawl is also in the set now as well so it is just Tracker which has seen some increases over the last couple of weeks already.
No *****? That's great! This set single-handedly destroyed the cost barriers of entry into the deck; the number of excuses for not running a play set of Goyfs is getting smaller and smaller every day
Hello everyone I know that does not center much with this part of the forum but in two weeks I have a tournament of about 1000 people in the area and I wanted to ask which of these decks would you play?
JUND, MARDU PIROMANCER, RG PONZA, AFFINITY OR DREDGE ??? sorry for the intrusion and thanks in advance for any answers ...
I run 2 of each.
At best, it removes utopia sprawl / BM from our graveyard making goyf smaller by 1. At its worst, its 2 mana draw a card. I like it as a SB option.
I'd like to know how people deal with resolved 5/6s and 4/5s if they don't find one of the 2 copies of inferno titan. BBE being a 3/2 is the compromise we took for that cascade value, but quite often it gets walled out by goyf in BGx matches. Sometimes I draw my Chameleon Colossus and win that way, but that isn't something I want to count on.
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No suggestion is a stupid suggestion until fully explored. Whilst I do like the idea of locking an opponent out of the game with Jace's ability, I think the double blue is just out of reach for us. We would consistently need Utopia + dork, or two non-elf dorks. This seems unlikely to guarantee on curve or consistently, making Jace a risk play. I suppose the mana could be tweaked a bit, or we could run a lands-focused package including Snake, but for a "normal" Ponza list the requirement for double-red kinda overshadows the double blue. Give it a go and let us know however, if you fancy.
Regards deck price. I managed to successfully purchase two Chandra on the morning they released she was going to be in the standard event deck. You will also be pleased to know I purchased my playset of Blood Moons two days before they were leaked as being in the next Masters set. Luckily these were the last cards I needed for the paper deck, so there is no chance of a surprise like that again.
Beast Within turns goyf into a 3/3. Sometimes it can also be raced with a Titan or Stormbreath. Thrag tusk can trade with a 4/5 goyf.
Scavenging ooze from the sideboard can shrink the goyf... we are mostly forests, so ooze will have a lot of green mana to use. And the ooze can sometimes grow large enough to challenge the goyf.
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9 forest
1 mountain
4 wooded foothills
4 windswept Heath
2 stomping grounds
1 copperline gorge
1 horizon canopy
4 arbor elf
2 birds of paradise
2 scavenging ooze
1 tireless tracker
1 kitchen finks
1 courser of kruphix
2 stormbreath dragon
4 bloodbraid elf
4 stone rain
4 molten rain
1 mwonvuli acid moss
2 blood moon
2 beast within
1 Chandra, torch of defiance
1 nissa, voice of zendikar
1 hazoret the fervent
1 goblin dark-dwellers
1 thragtusk
1 kitchen finks
2 inferno Titan
1 ancient grudge
1 relic of progenitus
2 grafdiggers cage
2 slagatorm
I can't remember what my other 3 sideboard cards were honestly. The only cards I ever boarded in were thragtusk, finks, slagatorm, Hazoret.
So I need to buy 2 moons, another sprawl, another Chandra, and another stomping ground for the main. Changes will probably be:
Molten rain -> blood moon
Mwonvuli acid moss -> blood moon
Copperline gorge -> stomping ground
Finks (mb) -> Chandra
Bop -> sprawl
For the sideboard I need trinnisphere x2-3.
Anyway below are the matches if anyone is interested. I need plenty more reps with the deck, but it feels powerful.
Match 1 was a stock jund list with BBE. 2-1. I won the die roll, and game was T1 spawn my forest, t2 blood moon him out. He fetches a swamp with moon on the stack and played bob next turn. I just rained the swamp and we went to game 2. G2 I kept a 1 lander with sprawl/elf on a null to 6 and was punished for it. Game 3 was very sim Late to game 1 and I just locked him out early. Boarded in hazoret, thragtusk and took out the acid moss and a bird on the draw.
Match 2 was abzan elves. 2-0. Game one was kinda grindy and he resolved 3 shaman of the packs on me. Courser lifegain was clutch as was nissa. I just flooded the board with saprolings and when he finally stuck a lord and swung in I used beast within on a land and killed his heritage Druid. Eventually wrapped it up with stormbreath in the air after locking him off black mana. Game 2 he had a pretty gbarly kill to 5 and I just rained his lands into oblivion and he only ever had 3 dorks. I boarded in slagatorm and hazoret, and hazoret finished the game by slinging 3 spells in one turn on like round 6ish. He has chumps for days. Took the moons, acid moss, and something else for the titans, slagatorm a, and hazoret.
Match 3 was temur good stuff with Jace, BBE, visions etc. 2-1 won in turns on turn 5. Game one I got destroyed by goyfs and a start that was just as fast. He hit his coursers first and just out drew me. Game 2 scooze kept goyf in check after some early trades and grew out of removal range. I kept him off blue and eventually got through his BOP in the air for lethal. Game 3 took like 30 minutes and was super grindy. I eventually resolved a Chandra, scooze ate both graveyards to 0, and then stormbreath off the top. He resolved two ancestral visions before I blood mooned to lock him out. I then just rained all his basics.
Match for was RW burn. Pretty stock without the green splash for sideboard junk. We don't have a ton of people that play artifact stuff, so he streamlined his mana/sideboard for RW. 2-0. Game 1 was won off the back of a T2 courser. Game 2 he landed an eidolon and had me at 4. I eventually dropped a stormbreath to block and then resolved a finks to stay at 4. Luckily he didn't have a spell to respond to finks lol. Was dicey but I felt favored with 6 maindexk lifegain spells.
It's been awhile since I played a deck that felt this competitive. I feel like BBE and Chandra was quite the shot in the arm as I've taken other lists for a spin here and there and I felt like my dig/reach was always lacking. I'll happily invest in finishing out the deck, it just feels great. Courser is really the full package for me and what makes the deck tick. It gains life, it chumps, its pseudo card draw. It's just excellent.
4 Scavenging Ooze
4 Strangleroot Geist
4 Goblin Rabblemaster
3 Kitchen Finks
4 Tireless Tracker
4 Bloodbraid Elf
1 Huntmaster of the Fells
2 Pia and Kiran Nalaar
4 Utopia Sprawl
2 Blood Moon
6 Forest
2 Mountain
4 Wooded Foothills
4 Misty Rainforest
4 Stomping Ground
3 Relic of Progenitus
3 Ancient Grudge
2 Ahn-Crop Crasher
1 Kitchen Finks
2 Crumble to Dust
3 Obstinate baloth
1 Thrun, the Last Troll
Before running this through a competitive league I cut 2 Ooze and the 1 Huntmaster for 2 Blood Moon and a 21st land. I also cut the 2 Crashers and the Finks in the SB for a Thragtusk and 2 Roast.
I ended up going 4-1 in the league, only losing to a Hollow One/Vengevine deck who, in game 3 on the play went T1 cycle Street Wraith, land Looting discard 2 Vengevine, cast 2 Hollow One. There isn't a deck in modern capable of beating that draw so I guess i'm ok with that being my only loss. But the deck did feel pretty good, I had been playing stock ponza online for about a week before this and was winning at a somewhat decent rate but there are a handful of games where you draw Stone Rain and it's just a blank piece of cardboard, I wanted to try this to have more individually powerful cards while keeping the busted mana acceleration of Elf+Sprawl and the best disruption in the format, Blood Moon.
I was thinking that as well, but after crunching the games against bloodbraid elf decks they are still dealing with it using maindeck terminate or maelstrom pulse at about the same rate. It still steals games against those over invested in fatal push as their main deck choice of removal.
sideboard still the same story for those colors, incomes the ancient grudges.
decks running jace, the mind sculptor are a bit different in that they have a bounce effect on a stick, but usually thats a blue white configuration and the emperion was already vulnerable to path to exile.
that makes sense.
As I've been building lists I've kept the Mwonvuli Acid-Moss in the deck alongside bloodbraid elf while running molten rain. maybe i'll drop acid-moss as well?......
Hazoret should be mainboarded. Its pretty ridiculous. It can take the place of acid moss in your deck currently.
Focus on buying Sprawl > Stomping > Trinisphere > BM/Chandra. Also get more trackers to replace beast within.
Ordered most everything tonight. Looks like some of the prices are drifting up. I just need two trackers and another trinisphere now. A friend of mine has the hazoret. I will try it main next week, seems very strong against my current meta.
9 Forest
1 Kessig Wolf Run
1 Mountain
3 Stomping Ground
4 Windswept Heath
4 Wooded Foothills
Creatures (18)
4 Arbor Elf
2 Birds of Paradise
4 Bloodbraid Elf
2 Inferno Titan
3 Kitchen Finks
1 Stormbreath Dragon
2 Tireless Tracker
3 Lightning Bolt
Sorceries (7)
2 Molten Rain
1 Primal Command
4 Stone Rain
Enchantments (8)
4 Blood Moon
4 Utopia Sprawl
Planeswalkers (2)
2 Chandra, Torch of Defiance
1 Abrade
2 Ancient Grudge
3 Anger of the Gods
2 Choke
3 Grafdigger's Cage
1 Thragtusk
1 Thrun, the Last Troll
2 Tireless Tracker
1st time I'm playing 22 lands and it feels OK. 21 lands were risky. 2 Titans are also OK without Acid-Moss. Replaced them with 2 Molten Rains, which are cool with Elf. Elf is a star! All deck is built to get max from him. 3 Finks and Primal Command - 4 lifegain cards in main, I think it's minimum when we play against Burn. Tireless Trackers are awesome, always side them in in greedy matchups. About Lightning Bolts: I think we need some pre-sideboard interaction with Devouted Druids, Humans, Merfolks and other stuff. Also it's good from BBE.
Choke in SB is fantastic.
I'll just leave it here:
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I goldfished a lot the evening prior with a list similar to the one that won the dutch modern open series (4 stone rain, 4 blood moon, 4 molten rain, 2 acid moss)- I felt like a lot of openers were really really sketchy trying to get double red for molten rain- so I cut 2 of them and replaced with 1x courser and 1 more tracker to finish out the playset. I also cut one birds for a basic because I just felt that it would be better to minimize the "bad" bloodbraid hits. Here's the list- stormy b definitely felt like the weakest card in the deck- although I understand it's been a mainstay and that it dodges the 3 most common removal spells in the format (push, bolt, path) a 4/4 for 5 is not really what I'm interested in doing in modern. I might be underselling the card though because it is a solid clock that can go over the top of the majority of decks in the format. Anyway, here's the list:
4x Arbor Elf
1x Birds of Paradise
4x Bloodbraid Elf
1x Courser of Kruphix
2x Inferno Titan
2x Stormbreath Dragon
4x Tireless Tracker
9x Forest
1x Mountain
3x Stomping Ground
3x Verdant Catacombs
2x Windswept Heath
4x Wooded Foothills
2x Chandra, Torch of Defiance
Sorcery (8)
2x Molten Rain
2x Mwonvuli Acid-Moss
4x Stone Rain
Enchantment (8)
4x Blood Moon
4x Utopia Sprawl
2x Lightning Bolt
9 Forest
1 Kessig Wolf Run
1 Mountain
3 Stomping Ground
4 Windswept Heath
4 Wooded Foothills
Creatures (18)
4 Arbor Elf
2 Birds of Paradise
4 Bloodbraid Elf
2 Inferno Titan
3 Kitchen Finks
1 Stormbreath Dragon
2 Tireless Tracker
3 Lightning Bolt
Sorceries (7)
2 Molten Rain
1 Primal Command
4 Stone Rain
Enchantments (8)
4 Blood Moon
4 Utopia Sprawl
Planeswalkers (2)
2 Chandra, Torch of Defiance
1 Abrade
2 Ancient Grudge
3 Anger of the Gods
2 Choke
3 Grafdigger's Cage
1 Thragtusk
1 Thrun, the Last Troll
2 Tireless Tracker
Played 3 Friendly Modern Leagues in MTGO with deck above.
1) 3-2.
Lost to Burn 0-2 and Grixis Shadow 1-2. A lot of mulligans and bad hands against them. Won UW, UWR and some deck I forgot about (upd: it was UB MIll).
2) 4-1.
2-0 vs Turns.
2-0 vs Colorless Eldrazi. (guy with 7 undefeated trophies couldn't do anything)
2-0 vs UWR.
2-1 vs UR Pyromancer/Thing in the Ice.
1-2 vs Hollow One from screen above. 1st game - win. Good match, Titan won it. 2nd game - turn 0 lose. I think such things shouldn't exist in Modern. 3rd game was even, bad topdecks were reason of my lose.
3) 4-1.
2-1 vs Burn.
2-0 vs BBE Land Destroy.
2-1 vs Gr Tron.
2-0 vs Gr Tron.
1-2 vs Affinity. Lost 1st, won 2nd, mull to 4 in 3rd...
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Utopia Sprawl is also in the set now as well so it is just Tracker which has seen some increases over the last couple of weeks already.
No *****? That's great! This set single-handedly destroyed the cost barriers of entry into the deck; the number of excuses for not running a play set of Goyfs is getting smaller and smaller every day
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Jund, if you are good with it.
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