I think Jeskai isn't really popular now because we got Narset and little Teferi taking up a bunch of slots, and it's tough to fit in the red cards. However having bolt and helix to deal with walkers is of course a huge boon. The most relevant percentage loss of jeskai over UW is vs tron.
If I'd go to a large tournament expecting a lot of UW and little tron, I'd sleeve jeskai I think.
I think Jeskai isn't really popular now because we got Narset and little Teferi taking up a bunch of slots, and it's tough to fit in the red cards. However having bolt and helix to deal with walkers is of course a huge boon. The most relevant percentage loss of jeskai over UW is vs tron.
If I'd go to a large tournament expecting a lot of UW and little tron, I'd sleeve jeskai I think.
Lightning Bolt still isn't that good right now though. Slightly better than recent months, but not that good either.
This is the deck I'm gonna play (again) when force comes out. 4x Geists cos this time around we can pitch it to force. Hopefully will be tier1!
Setting the goose loose might be a good way to get jeskai on the map again without just being awkward UW control. Humans is a factor though, and Geist has to compete with a LOT of good 3-drops now. Looking at succesful UW Midrange lists and working in bolts from there might be a good starting point.
I think the days of Search for Azcanta are over with the printing of Narset. Maybe as a one of, but the floor on Narset is just so much better than SFA
I think the days of Search for Azcanta are over with the printing of Narset. Maybe as a one of, but the floor on Narset is just so much better than SFA
I'm not sure there's many who would disagree.
I'm curious if what y'all would think of for an updated Jeskai control list. Lightning Bolt is starting to look really appealing again, but it's been so long since I played, I'm not sure I'd trust anything I would put together. I've been playing a lot of Esper control, but that deck doesn't fit my play style. You don't really ever get to turn the corner and go on offense.
It's what I'm running with great success lately X-3 at Montreal Open. 4-0 last FNM. The deck is very flexible : to make room for planeswalker if needed, it's possible to cut 1 Helix and 1 Clique and then you have room for 2 little Teferi or Narset. The sideboard is geared toward beating Tron, Dredge, combo, etc.
I like the flexibility of Azcanta : coming on turn 2, scrying to have smoother draws (finding lands) and multiple activations when you have 7 cards in the graveyard. However, you could simply replace the 2 Azcanta for Narset in the list and that would be good too
I'm curious if what y'all would think of for an updated Jeskai control list. Lightning Bolt is starting to look really appealing again, but it's been so long since I played, I'm not sure I'd trust anything I would put together. I've been playing a lot of Esper control, but that deck doesn't fit my play style. You don't really ever get to turn the corner and go on offense.
I'm on straight UW now since I think it's the best deck in the format right now (other than Hogaak of course), but I really miss my bolts. I experimented a bit with Geist of Saint Traft but then realized again that I just really loathe that card
As I said above I think the best way to approach Jeskai now is to look ath the UW Midrange decks and go from there, as adapting UW Control into Jeskai doesn't add that much and worsens your tron matchup. Restoration Angel has proven me time and time again that she is excellent right now, and I think that a build closer to Jeskai Flash could get some work done. We now also have Teferi Time Raveler to turn Spell Queller into a 2 for 1.
So I've been back on Jeskai for about a week and a half after taking a break to Kiki people for a bit. I have yet to play against the Hogaak deck, so take my words with a grain of salt in that regard but I think the list I'm on is actually quite good.
I think I'm 9-2 at the moment with the list. Obviously this is still a very small sample size and it's only at the FNM/local level, but the deck has felt very strong when I've played it. It seems to have the tools to handle the variety of decks that Modern can throw at it (barring I suppose something like Lantern Control). As I said, still haven't played against Hogaak, but at least I THINK the matchup is fine. There's at least a plan in place for it. I also thought Puzzle Box had to be a meme when I first saw a list with it, but it's actually a great instant win option.
Hey all, I've been trying to find a modern deck that I love, and I for some reason picked up a mythic nahiri for my marsh flat... but thats besides the point. Is the old Nahiri list seeing any win's or is it pretty much all teferi and jace since his unbanning.
Hey all, I've been trying to find a modern deck that I love, and I for some reason picked up a mythic nahiri for my marsh flat... but thats besides the point. Is the old Nahiri list seeing any win's or is it pretty much all teferi and jace since his unbanning.
Nahiri Jeskai has been off the map for a while. In general, Jeskai has fallen out of favour for straight UW. Nahiri would still be fine for FNM though; I'm a big Nahiri fan and in my opinion as long as you have the proactive Nahiri wincon backed up by individually powerful cards you can't go too wrong.
I haven't looked at Nahiri for a while, but new cards like Narset and Force of Negation would definitely slide in that deck.
For those looking for Jeskai to shine again, Druid combo abusing Giver of Runes and infect abusing Scale Up make Jeskai interesting again. Having a giant ball of spot removal is crucial against those decks and that has always been Jeskai's forte.
Agreed with Jeskai coming up again. We just need to stock our sideboards with graveyard hate and Tron hate to be on the map. At least 4-5 graveyard hate and 3 cards against Tron in the sideboard has done me wonders so far.
Do you guys find room for 2 Narset, Parter of Veils and 2 Teferi, Time Raveler ? I don't find room for the later. 2 Narset, Parter of Veils could replace my Search for Azcanta, but unfortunately I think I would need to cut Teferi Hero of Dominaria to make room for Teferi, Time Raveler. Thoughts ?
Bad matchups:
- Tron
- Amulet
- Dredge
Average:
- Death's Shadow
- Burn
- Phoenix
Good:
- Humans
- Affinity / Scales
- Infect
- Azorius Control
The deck shouldn't be in such a bad shape...
Aggro: Naya Burn RWG
Combo: Scapeshift RG
Control: Jeskai Control UWR
Legacy
Control: Miracles UW
Aggro: Burn R
If I'd go to a large tournament expecting a lot of UW and little tron, I'd sleeve jeskai I think.
I trust you, I don't have munch of a sample size (11 games).
@Bearscape : once Tron settles down, we will rise up again I guess.
Aggro: Naya Burn RWG
Combo: Scapeshift RG
Control: Jeskai Control UWR
Legacy
Control: Miracles UW
Aggro: Burn R
Lightning Bolt still isn't that good right now though. Slightly better than recent months, but not that good either.
Setting the goose loose might be a good way to get jeskai on the map again without just being awkward UW control. Humans is a factor though, and Geist has to compete with a LOT of good 3-drops now. Looking at succesful UW Midrange lists and working in bolts from there might be a good starting point.
I'm not sure there's many who would disagree.
I'm curious if what y'all would think of for an updated Jeskai control list. Lightning Bolt is starting to look really appealing again, but it's been so long since I played, I'm not sure I'd trust anything I would put together. I've been playing a lot of Esper control, but that deck doesn't fit my play style. You don't really ever get to turn the corner and go on offense.
Edit :
3 Snapcaster Mage
1 Vendilion Clique
Planeswalkers (4)
2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
2 Teferi, Hero of Dominaria
Spells (25)
2 Lightning Bolt
4 Path to Exile
4 Serum Visions
2 Spell Snare
3 Lightning Helix
2 Logic Knot
2 Force of Negation
4 Cryptic Command
2 Supreme Verdict
2 Search for Azcanta
Lands (25)
3 Celestial Colonnade
3 Field of Ruin
4 Flooded Strand
1 Glacial Fortress
2 Hallowed Fountain
3 Island
1 Mountain
1 Plains
1 Sacred Foundry
3 Scalding Tarn
2 Steam Vents
1 Sulfur Falls
1 Ceremonious Rejection
1 Dispel
1 Surgical Extraction
2 Damping Sphere
1 Disdainful Stroke
1 Negate
2 Rest in Peace
1 Runed Halo
1 Anger of the Gods
1 Geist of Saint Traft
1 Timely Reinforcements
1 Vendilion Clique
1 Baneslayer Angel
It's what I'm running with great success lately X-3 at Montreal Open. 4-0 last FNM. The deck is very flexible : to make room for planeswalker if needed, it's possible to cut 1 Helix and 1 Clique and then you have room for 2 little Teferi or Narset. The sideboard is geared toward beating Tron, Dredge, combo, etc.
Cheers !
Aggro: Naya Burn RWG
Combo: Scapeshift RG
Control: Jeskai Control UWR
Legacy
Control: Miracles UW
Aggro: Burn R
I like the flexibility of Azcanta : coming on turn 2, scrying to have smoother draws (finding lands) and multiple activations when you have 7 cards in the graveyard. However, you could simply replace the 2 Azcanta for Narset in the list and that would be good too
Aggro: Naya Burn RWG
Combo: Scapeshift RG
Control: Jeskai Control UWR
Legacy
Control: Miracles UW
Aggro: Burn R
I'm on straight UW now since I think it's the best deck in the format right now (other than Hogaak of course), but I really miss my bolts. I experimented a bit with Geist of Saint Traft but then realized again that I just really loathe that card
As I said above I think the best way to approach Jeskai now is to look ath the UW Midrange decks and go from there, as adapting UW Control into Jeskai doesn't add that much and worsens your tron matchup. Restoration Angel has proven me time and time again that she is excellent right now, and I think that a build closer to Jeskai Flash could get some work done. We now also have Teferi Time Raveler to turn Spell Queller into a 2 for 1.
4x Snapcaster Mage
2x Vendilion Clique
Spells:
1x Engineered Explosives
4x Path to Exile
4x Lightning Bolt
3x Opt
2x Lightning Helix
2x Dovin's Veto
2x Logic Knot
4x Narset, Parter of Veils
1x Detention Sphere
2x Teferi, Time Raveler
2x Teferi's Puzzle Box
1x Supreme Verdict
2x Teferi, Hero of Dominaria
4x Flooded Strand
4x Scalding Tarn
2x Hallowed Fountain
2x Steam Vents
1x Sacred Foudnry
2x Island
1x Plains
1x Mountain
2x Celestial Colonnade
1x Glacial Fortress
3x Field of Ruin
1x Geier Reach Sanitarium
1x Baneslayer Angel
1x Wrath of God
2x Celestial Purge
1x Ashiok, Dream Render
1x Ceremonious Rejection
3x Ravenous Trap
3x Spell Queller
1x Teferi, Time Raveler
1x Wear//Tear
1x Engineered Explosives
I think I'm 9-2 at the moment with the list. Obviously this is still a very small sample size and it's only at the FNM/local level, but the deck has felt very strong when I've played it. It seems to have the tools to handle the variety of decks that Modern can throw at it (barring I suppose something like Lantern Control). As I said, still haven't played against Hogaak, but at least I THINK the matchup is fine. There's at least a plan in place for it. I also thought Puzzle Box had to be a meme when I first saw a list with it, but it's actually a great instant win option.
UW Control
UWR Geist
UWR Control
Nahiri Jeskai has been off the map for a while. In general, Jeskai has fallen out of favour for straight UW. Nahiri would still be fine for FNM though; I'm a big Nahiri fan and in my opinion as long as you have the proactive Nahiri wincon backed up by individually powerful cards you can't go too wrong.
I haven't looked at Nahiri for a while, but new cards like Narset and Force of Negation would definitely slide in that deck.
Do you guys find room for 2 Narset, Parter of Veils and 2 Teferi, Time Raveler ? I don't find room for the later. 2 Narset, Parter of Veils could replace my Search for Azcanta, but unfortunately I think I would need to cut Teferi Hero of Dominaria to make room for Teferi, Time Raveler. Thoughts ?
Cheers !
Aggro: Naya Burn RWG
Combo: Scapeshift RG
Control: Jeskai Control UWR
Legacy
Control: Miracles UW
Aggro: Burn R