This poll is for the next spotlight deck. The current post information can be found at https://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/modern/established-modern/aggro-tempo/782962-burn?page=79#c1583
Matchup Spotlight (Currently Humans) - Single Choice
Ended Nov 5, 2018
Quote from JaishivaJai »As he pointed out, there are always fetchlands and shocklands we can hope our opponent will play if we have no other outlet. I hadn't even thought of that before!
Quote from TylerStegman »Increase in chalice and possibly LoS so idk if we can quite cute white/green. Ive been on mardu as well. With this new bolt i think my list will be something like this:
TylerStegman's DeckMagic OnlineOCTGN2ApprenticeBuy These Cards
4 scalding tarn4 arid mesa2 blood crypt1 blackcleave cliffs1 sacred foundry2 inspiring vantage5 mountain4 goblin guide4 monastery swiftspear3 eidolon of the great revel1 grim lavamancer4 lightning bolt4 lava spike4 rift bolt4 bump in the night4 lightning helix4 searing blaze3 skewer the critics2 shard volleySb3 path to exile3 smash to smithereens2 rakdos charm2 rain of gore2 skullcrack2 searing blood1 deflecring palm
Changes ive made in the main to make room for 3 skewers are:
-1 vexing devil
-1 lavamancer (maybe 2 instead of eidolon?)
-1 eidolon (which i feel is wrong?)
The reason im on this build is simply most interaction, most instants, and dont lose speed. Right now in this list we see 29 burn spells. Of which 14 are instants, and also of which 21 can hit dome or creatures. 21 possible 1 drop burn spells and 8 two drops. Overall i believe my curve averages at 1.268. Yes i plan on buying another Cliffs to replace 1 blood crypt but im currently buying a lions eye diamond for edh. I have been on the 19 land team since about a week after i tested 20 lands and a week testing 18 lands and ive been on burn since modern came out so im on 19 for good.
Sb is still in the air for changes as id like to fit in some number of satyr firedancer and possible some number of immolation shaman. Also thinking of fitting in some enchantment hate now too. Something like 2 RoG and 1 Skullcrack, 2 rakdos charm and 1 smash. Keep paths and palm (maybe cut palm?) And cut searing blood. That will make 5-6 spaces in sb. Maybe put 2nd lavamancer in sb. So my next point of discussion, bc i didnt rly see much, if any, discussion is on immolation shaman. Is it worth sb slots? And for that matter... is satyr still good sb tech in a big tourney?
Quote from Stay_On_Target »Hi Forum. I've lurked for a while but never posted. First, thank you Elconquistador for keeping this going. Lots of good info! Weighing in on the Skewer the Critics debate. I really like adding this to our burn lists and wonder are we close to a point where we legitimately go mono red? I'm thinking swapping all Lightning Helix for skewer and then swapping Boros Charm for Exquisite Firecraft as a finisher. It's more mana, but it is a 4 damage spell that can't be countered. We could always keep dual colored shock lands in the main for sideboard tech. I'm curious about all your thoughts.
Quote from TylerStegman »nothing against doing your own research and by all means please do because the more people that do it the closer we get to figuring it all out but elcon already did this in the primer and if you look at the data 19 is probably your best option. Again I'm not trying to criticize or be rude or tell you not to do it but to try and save you some time from doing too many numbers we could try saying within 17221 that way you would use less time trying to figure out the other numbers because we know on the primer he use 18 to 20.I am glad that there are other people trying to investigate the right move so please do not take this in any way as me call you stupid or anything like that
Quote from Creevian_Legacy »Quote from TylerStegman »nothing against doing your own research and by all means please do because the more people that do it the closer we get to figuring it all out but elcon already did this in the primer and if you look at the data 19 is probably your best option. Again I'm not trying to criticize or be rude or tell you not to do it but to try and save you some time from doing too many numbers we could try saying within 17221 that way you would use less time trying to figure out the other numbers because we know on the primer he use 18 to 20.I am glad that there are other people trying to investigate the right move so please do not take this in any way as me call you stupid or anything like that
Not at all! I appreciate the input. The reason I decided to do this is because, if I'm reading elcon's math correctly, it focuses more on opening hand statistics and doesn't try to take into account lategame flooding, which could potentially make us want to lower our land count. This isn't a failing on those stats; just a different question he was trying to answer. I wanted to see if the expected 18-20 land range stayed optimal when our turn 4 goldfishes were taken into account. The results stayed the same, which makes the calculations look identical, but it was actually two distinct questions we were asking. I also wanted to test for a wider spread of land counts, from 15-25, on the off chance the real best number of lands was far outside the realm of what we would expect (it wasn't).
Quote from TylerStegman »Also whoever was asking about being mono red...I'm going through on gather the list of viable options as far as burn spells with converted Mana cost 3 or less and it is appearing that we would end up running more creatures and probably being more like red deck wins than burn but I could be wrong and I would probably also try cards that are a little more out of the norm if going mono red like thunderous wrath because I believe we would end up running magma jet but there may also be a way to throw something like collateral damage in as a way to kill our spark creatures like hellspark elemental and spark elemental after they've attacked