Has anyone experimented with Kaya, Orzhov Usurper? A 3 cmc walker with no immediate impact on board is probably too slow but with how impactful graveyard hate is atm I can see her doing work. Not to mention that decks like dredge, phoenix, burn and GDS all HAVE to kill her because either lifegain/exiling ruins their gameplan, or in some cases the -5 will just 1shot them alone. Not hopeful, but curious. I'll see if I can grab a copy for my sideboard.
Has anyone experimented with Kaya, Orzhov Usurper? A 3 cmc walker with no immediate impact on board is probably too slow but with how impactful graveyard hate is atm I can see her doing work. Not to mention that decks like dredge, phoenix, burn and GDS all HAVE to kill her because either lifegain/exiling ruins their gameplan, or in some cases the -5 will just 1shot them alone. Not hopeful, but curious. I'll see if I can grab a copy for my sideboard.
I have played one tournament at my LGS playing a Kaya in the sideboard, and one 40-people comp tournament with a Kaya mainboard. My results were excellent (4-0 and 4-1-1) but I don't think Kaya is here to stay. Currently Kaya does well against GDS, BGx, 4 color shadow, Burn and to some extend Dredge and Phoenix. I think it is perfectly reasonable to play 1 or 2 Kayas mainboard currently, but as soon as the meta shifts it might be very mediocre.
i'm a dedicated Eldrazi and TAxes Player.
Lately the deck disappointed a bit as the format is brutally fast.
In the past i also played various Spell Queller decks (Bant Knightfall, UW Hatebears), so i've decided to switch to UW Death and TAxes for now.
Here's my list:
What's your guidance towards improving the list?
It tries to out-tax the opponent with FoR, Quarter, Arbiter, Thalia, Wanderer and Queller to get ahead with reflector mage and militia bugler.
i'm a dedicated Eldrazi and TAxes Player.
Lately the deck disappointed a bit as the format is brutally fast.
In the past i also played various Spell Queller decks (Bant Knightfall, UW Hatebears), so i've decided to switch to UW Death and TAxes for now.
Here's my list:
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Lands
4 seachrome coast
3 adarkar wastes
1 celestial colonnade
4 hallowed fountain
4 ghost quarter
3 field of ruin
2 island
2 plains
What's your guidance towards improving the list?
It tries to out-tax the opponent with FoR, Quarter, Arbiter, Thalia, Wanderer and Queller to get ahead with reflector mage and militia bugler.
I have never play UW D&T however i always found thoses list a little bit strange.
The problem that i see is ether you play mausoleum wanderer and a lot of spirits (and so it's a UW spirit deck with thalia and leonin) or you play reflector mage and maybe Meddling Mage. Either cases have their pro and cons but if it was my deck i woud go all-in in one direction or the other.
I play this BW Eldrazi Taxes popularised by penips. The list is strong but there is 3 Shambling Vent wich, i think, is too much. Have you tried Fetif Heath in Eldrazi Taxes? Have you liked it?
I am currently running roughly the above list and won a 12-man Modern FNM with it. I have subbed out the Godless Shrine for a Fetid Heath, and thus far it has been okay. I feel that the format is fairly fast, and the 2 damage from Shrine can really matter. Also being able to tap for colourless can be handy in a pinch.
I also run 2 Kaya, Orzhov Usurper, instead of Lingering Souls. The card is good against a bunch of decks, most notably Phoenix variants and Dredge. Also, being able to exile stuff from your own gy for some lifegain is nice, and sniping the occasional Death's Shadow or Aether Vial is just icing.
I'm playing at two different places because i move a lot between two town. At one place the meta is very competitive and the other it's super casual. Do you think that Kaya is only strong because of the competitive metagame or it can be usefull in other environnement?
Kaya is strong mostly in metas where Phoenix or Dredge is big. In more casual metas, I feel like she can pull her weight, gaining some life and maybe exiling a few graveyard interactions and maybe serving as a distraction.
While there's a bit of discussion going on about BW E&T, I'll share something I wrote recently. I've also posted this on Reddit.
Although my writing in the past has generally focused on tournament reports, I figured it'd be a lot more useful to write something that pertains to general experience with BW E&T and my thoughts on how to play the deck.
While specific decklists and sideboard guides are always helpful, I think it's valuable to spend some time thinking about how to approach games and matchups. This is my attempt at articulating those thoughts. Hopefully you find this worth reading!
Instead of playing kaya, please remember relic of progenitus exist. Sure sure it not target what you want but it cost less mana and you can exile all graveyard and do it as instant. Kaya won't exil a bunch of permanent in modern....
Kaya may not exile as an instant, but she can remove a lot of problematic permanents, which Relic can't. Off the top of my head: Hardened Scales, manadorks, Walking Ballista, Goblin Guide, Monastery Swiftspear and Champion of the Parish, to name a few. Also aforementioned is that she can continue doing it, which the Relic can't. Sure, Relic is a bit better against Dredge and the like, but I think Kaya can be okay, also to finish stalled games in which you can steadily tick her up. (UW control comes to mind)
Hi friends. Im new here but i follow this forum long time ago. I was playing taxes from 2013, firts wg hatebears later in 2016 change to wb eldrazi taxes.
Last sunday i lose in semifinals of tournament with 40 players.
I made some changes in the deck.
My list and report:
4 fatal push (vials)
3 path to exile
4 thalia guardian thraven
4 leonin arbitre
4 thoughtknock seed
4 tidehollow
4 lingering souls (flickerwisp)
4 eldrazi displacer
3 westland strangler
3 smuggler copter
3 shamblin bent
1 swamp
2 plains
1 godless shrine
4 marsh flats
4 ghost quarter
4 eldrazi temple
4 cave of koilos
Side
4 rest in peace
4 stony silence
3 burrenton forge tender
1 path to exile
3 guardian reliqs leonin
1 round
Rg titanshift 1-2 lose (on draw)
2 round
Monowhite death and taxes 2-1 win (on draw)
3 round
Bant relicary 2-0 win (on play)
4 round
Dregde 2-1 win (on draw)
5 round
Dregde 2-0 win (on draw)
6 round
Not play. 7 in the swiss
Quarters
Amulet titan 2-1 (on draw)
Semis
Lose to pili- pala combo...i dont know about this combo super ramdom
I dont think is time for aether vial, not control in format and we have so strong cards for turn 2 against many decks in format. Lingerings souls - copter sinergy win itselfs and are very powerfull midrange cards, i love it. I was surprised for power of deck.
I have played one tournament at my LGS playing a Kaya in the sideboard, and one 40-people comp tournament with a Kaya mainboard. My results were excellent (4-0 and 4-1-1) but I don't think Kaya is here to stay. Currently Kaya does well against GDS, BGx, 4 color shadow, Burn and to some extend Dredge and Phoenix. I think it is perfectly reasonable to play 1 or 2 Kayas mainboard currently, but as soon as the meta shifts it might be very mediocre.
i'm a dedicated Eldrazi and TAxes Player.
Lately the deck disappointed a bit as the format is brutally fast.
In the past i also played various Spell Queller decks (Bant Knightfall, UW Hatebears), so i've decided to switch to UW Death and TAxes for now.
Here's my list:
4 seachrome coast
3 adarkar wastes
1 celestial colonnade
4 hallowed fountain
4 ghost quarter
3 field of ruin
2 island
2 plains
4 aether vial
4 path to exile
creatures
4 mausoleum wanderer
4 spell queller
4 thalia, guardian of thraben
4 leonin arbiter
4 flickerwisp
3 restoration angel
1 geist of saint traft
3 militia bugler
2 reflector mage
What's your guidance towards improving the list?
It tries to out-tax the opponent with FoR, Quarter, Arbiter, Thalia, Wanderer and Queller to get ahead with reflector mage and militia bugler.
Green @ it's best
I have never play UW D&T however i always found thoses list a little bit strange.
The problem that i see is ether you play mausoleum wanderer and a lot of spirits (and so it's a UW spirit deck with thalia and leonin) or you play reflector mage and maybe Meddling Mage. Either cases have their pro and cons but if it was my deck i woud go all-in in one direction or the other.
I play this BW Eldrazi Taxes popularised by penips. The list is strong but there is 3 Shambling Vent wich, i think, is too much. Have you tried Fetif Heath in Eldrazi Taxes? Have you liked it?
There's the list that I use
4 Caves of Koilos
4 Concealed Courtyard
4 Eldrazi Temple
4 Ghost Quarter
1 Godless Shrine
2 Plains
3 Shambling Vent
1 Swamp
CREATURES
4 Eldrazi Displacer
4 Flickerwisp
4 Leonin Arbiter
4 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
4 Thought-Knot Seer
4 Tidehollow Sculler
3 Wasteland Strangler
2 Lingering Souls
4 Path to Exile
OTHER SPELLS
4 Aether Vial
1 Burrenton Forge-Tender
3 Fatal Push
1 Gideon, Ally of Zendikar
2 Kambal, Consul of Allocation
2 Orzhov Pontiff
3 Rest in Peace
1 Settle the Wreckage
2 Stony Silence
I also run 2 Kaya, Orzhov Usurper, instead of Lingering Souls. The card is good against a bunch of decks, most notably Phoenix variants and Dredge. Also, being able to exile stuff from your own gy for some lifegain is nice, and sniping the occasional Death's Shadow or Aether Vial is just icing.
WiJ
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WiJ
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Although my writing in the past has generally focused on tournament reports, I figured it'd be a lot more useful to write something that pertains to general experience with BW E&T and my thoughts on how to play the deck.
BW Eldrazi & Taxes - Heuristics, Approaches, & Anecdotes
While specific decklists and sideboard guides are always helpful, I think it's valuable to spend some time thinking about how to approach games and matchups. This is my attempt at articulating those thoughts. Hopefully you find this worth reading!
"Penguin is Evil ?"
WiJ
Peasant 540 Cube
Oops I dropped the Modern D&T Discord link
Pretty bad card at a 4cc for this deck
if you want another thalia there is flying thalia vryn wingmare and artificat thalia Thorn of the ametyst
Last sunday i lose in semifinals of tournament with 40 players.
I made some changes in the deck.
My list and report:
4 fatal push (vials)
3 path to exile
4 thalia guardian thraven
4 leonin arbitre
4 thoughtknock seed
4 tidehollow
4 lingering souls (flickerwisp)
4 eldrazi displacer
3 westland strangler
3 smuggler copter
3 shamblin bent
1 swamp
2 plains
1 godless shrine
4 marsh flats
4 ghost quarter
4 eldrazi temple
4 cave of koilos
Side
4 rest in peace
4 stony silence
3 burrenton forge tender
1 path to exile
3 guardian reliqs leonin
1 round
Rg titanshift 1-2 lose (on draw)
2 round
Monowhite death and taxes 2-1 win (on draw)
3 round
Bant relicary 2-0 win (on play)
4 round
Dregde 2-1 win (on draw)
5 round
Dregde 2-0 win (on draw)
6 round
Not play. 7 in the swiss
Quarters
Amulet titan 2-1 (on draw)
Semis
Lose to pili- pala combo...i dont know about this combo super ramdom
I dont think is time for aether vial, not control in format and we have so strong cards for turn 2 against many decks in format. Lingerings souls - copter sinergy win itselfs and are very powerfull midrange cards, i love it. I was surprised for power of deck.