I don't have the possibility to playtest on mtgo (deck too expensive) so I only play the deck on my local game store. Went 3-0-1 with it last wednesday.
Only a draw against Jund.
Ajani is not as bad as it looks, cascading BBE into Ajani is a finisher, or at least a good way to get rid of a planeswalker, and it's good to have planeswalkers for Tarmogoyfs.
I'm happy with the sideboard but maybe it's not good enough against control or deathshadow decks, what do you think ?
2-0 vs Affinity
Lynx + removals gets G1 and Nacatl + Lynx + removals get G2
2-0 vs BG Tron
Early pressure and some burn on G1, Molten Rain before he could assemble Tron, then he is on 3 life and has to O-Stone my attackers. I had Mantis Rider and Nacatl in hand, played Nacatl and pass. He plays another Stone that he cracks when I attack. I pass, he plays Wurmcoil and Rider gets him.
2-1 vs Burn
Lost G1 because I went too careful on life with lands never getting blue, so I got an uncastable Rider in hand for 2 turns and he won at 7 life while I was holding Rider and Boros Charm. Got G2 with heavy aggro and G3 he stumbled on lands while I had 2 Finks and 3 Helixes. Stabilzied the board then got aggro with BBEs and Goyfs.
ID with GW Company on the 4th round, but we played and I lost 2-1.
Sideboard was just thrown togheter, but funny thing is that I sided in 4 Revelry match 1, 4 Rains on match 2, 3 Finks on match 3 and 4 Souls on match 4.
Played some small tournaments in my LGS and I like the deck pretty much! After talking to a lot of players if Jace is the new thing in modern the response often was that Bloodbraid Elf is way better!
The Deck is good at fighting Control decks and is able to grind. With some sideboard changes I think you can handle the combo matchups. The maindeck burn is super sweet! Not sure on the 4th Loxodon Smiter - the smiter was always good but I think playing a Tireless Tracker or Courser of Kruphix for cardadvantage.
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Modern: 5c Humans//Devoted Company
Legacy: Maverick
Pauper: UB Delver
Has anyone else that used to play Naya Company been as unimpressed with BBE over Company as I have?
No. She's been way faster at helping me close out games.
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I don't know how you guys always report favorable matchups against affinity and burn. I always feel like I'm dead t4 no matter what I do.
I always seem to have a good midrange MU even when I pack 0 midrange bullets (right now, I pack 1 Gideon, which seems to be enough). Affinity and burn? They never mulligan, they always kill me early, and they always have the right draw to beat a Kitchen Finks (burn) or Stony Silence/Ancient Grudge (affinity) post-board.
So which two drops have done the best for you guys in BBE zoo? Goyf is always tempting to play but i wanted to see how everything was testing for you guys. I always bounce between some number of voice, pridemage, ooze, goyf, selfless spirit and sometimes even thalia.
Btw, in the video's TCG put out today, the list ran one big thalia and it looked sweet. Anybody playing with her?
So which two drops have done the best for you guys in BBE zoo? Goyf is always tempting to play but i wanted to see how everything was testing for you guys. I always bounce between some number of voice, pridemage, ooze, goyf, selfless spirit and sometimes even thalia.
Btw, in the video's TCG put out today, the list ran one big thalia and it looked sweet. Anybody playing with her?
My favorite have been Goyf/Scooze/Voice in the main, and Teeg out of the board is great. I've played with Big Thalia before and was always underwhelmed for some reason.
This is what I'm playing at the moment. It's been pretty good. Used to run Tarmogoyf at first, but went with the Knight's way then and use NH to speed them up. The one plains as the only basic land feels weird, but doesn't really matter much unless you face the Moon few decks. Except for that, multiple Field of Ruin and Spreading Seas can sometimes hurt.
Guys please opinions on japanese cards. Lost a 3/3 creature against Japan celestial colonade. This guy played all creatures and spells in english cards, but some cards in his manabase was japanese. I dont registrated this really ( my brain say its all fine and all english to me lets attack his empty board)...and i am sure it is a Kind of legal cheating. It is not ok, but i know legal. I Hate such people. I never forget colonade normally, but with this Tricks it can happen one time in 3 years and such people take advantage of this
If I am a customer spending premium amount of dollars, I expect a premium service. Jund falls into the category of a premium deck costing more dollars than a majority of the rest of the format. I'm not getting the desired performance ratio per dollars spent out of the Jund deck because WOTC decided to make the format more diverse.
Just make sure they don't stick:
1. a Basilisk Collar
2. an Endbringer
The rest they can cheese you with but you're forcing them to play fair.
You really can't beat a All is Dust unless you're packing the right cards to counter it (they exist, you can find them in this thread).
You can beat a late Karn but probably not an early Karn when they're on the play.
If you can one-for-one them enough, they flood before you do.
Cards like Blood Moon and LD spells are very good but keep in mind, since they're a midrange deck, they can still win through them.
Yeah, that's for sure.
Maybe there's something that's not on the release notes. I think there's only half the set there.
WGUBR 5c Humans
GWR Naya Zoo
Legacy:
GW GW Maverick
R Goblins
Here is the list I'm currently playing :
4x Noble Hierarch
4x Wild Nacatl
3x Voice of Resurgence
1x Qasali Pridemage
4x Tarmogoyf
4x Knight of the Reliquary
4x Bloodbraid Elf
Spells:
4x Path to Exile
4x Lightning Bolt
3x Lightning Helix
2x Ajani, Caller of the Pride
2x Stomping Ground
1x Sacred Foundry
2x Temple Garden
2x Horizon Canopy
1x Field of Ruin
1x Gavony Township
2x Forest
2x Plains
1x Mountain
3x Windswept Heath
3x Wooded Foothills
3x Arid Mesa
2x Stony Silence
1x Choke
2x Gaddock Teeg
1x Hazoret the Fervent
2x Kitchen Finks
2x Kor Firewalker
2x Molten Rain
1x Grafdigger's Cage
2x Ancient Grudge
I don't have the possibility to playtest on mtgo (deck too expensive) so I only play the deck on my local game store. Went 3-0-1 with it last wednesday.
Only a draw against Jund.
Ajani is not as bad as it looks, cascading BBE into Ajani is a finisher, or at least a good way to get rid of a planeswalker, and it's good to have planeswalkers for Tarmogoyfs.
I'm happy with the sideboard but maybe it's not good enough against control or deathshadow decks, what do you think ?
1 Blood Crypt
1 Breeding Pool
1 Forest
1 Godless Shrine
1 Hallowed Fountain
1 Plains
1 Sacred Foundry
2 Stomping Ground
1 Temple Garden
4 Arid Mesa
4 Windswept Heath
4 Wooded Foothills
4 Bloodbraid Elf
4 Steppe Lynx
4 Mantis Rider
4 Noble Hierarch
4 Tarmogoyf
4 Wild Nacatl
Instants [10]
2 Boros Charm
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Lightning Helix
Sorceries [4]
4 Tribal Flames
4 Lingering Souls
4 Destructive Revelry
4 Molten Rain
3 Kitchen Finks
2-0 vs Affinity
Lynx + removals gets G1 and Nacatl + Lynx + removals get G2
2-0 vs BG Tron
Early pressure and some burn on G1, Molten Rain before he could assemble Tron, then he is on 3 life and has to O-Stone my attackers. I had Mantis Rider and Nacatl in hand, played Nacatl and pass. He plays another Stone that he cracks when I attack. I pass, he plays Wurmcoil and Rider gets him.
2-1 vs Burn
Lost G1 because I went too careful on life with lands never getting blue, so I got an uncastable Rider in hand for 2 turns and he won at 7 life while I was holding Rider and Boros Charm. Got G2 with heavy aggro and G3 he stumbled on lands while I had 2 Finks and 3 Helixes. Stabilzied the board then got aggro with BBEs and Goyfs.
ID with GW Company on the 4th round, but we played and I lost 2-1.
Sideboard was just thrown togheter, but funny thing is that I sided in 4 Revelry match 1, 4 Rains on match 2, 3 Finks on match 3 and 4 Souls on match 4.
WGUBR 5c Humans
GWR Naya Zoo
Legacy:
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R Goblins
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With Bloodbraid Elf you can cascade into Lightning Helix or Lightning Bolt at worst to gain immediate value.
She has been nothing but stunning so far! Lines like Bloodbraid Elf into Renegade Rallier into Tarmogoyf or Voice of Resurgence happened more than once. One time the turn after Damnation wiped my board.
Modern: WUBRG Humans - GBW Traverse - GWU Knightfall - GRW Bushwhacker Zoo -
4x Noble Hierarch
4x Wild Nacatl
3x Voice of Resurgence
1x Qasali Pridemage
3x Scavenging Ooze
1x Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
4x Knight of the Reliquary
4x Loxodon Smiter
1x Magus of the Moon
4x Bloodbraid Elf
Spells:
2x Path to Exile
4x Lightning Bolt
1x Boros Charm
1x Lightning Helix
1x Domri Rade
2x Stomping Ground
2x Sacred Foundry
1x Temple Garden
1x Horizon Canopy
1x Ghost Quarter
1x Kessig Wolf Run
1x Mountain
2x Forest
1x Plains
4x Windswept Heath
4x Wooded Foothills
2x Bloodstained Mire
2x Stony Silence
2x Choke
1x Path to Exile
1x Selfless Spirit
1x Thrun, the Last Troll
1x Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
2x Kitchen Finks
1x Bojuka Bog
1x Elspeth, Knight-Errant
1x Eldritch Evolution
1x Pyroclasm
1x Eidolon of Rhetoric
The Deck is good at fighting Control decks and is able to grind. With some sideboard changes I think you can handle the combo matchups. The maindeck burn is super sweet! Not sure on the 4th Loxodon Smiter - the smiter was always good but I think playing a Tireless Tracker or Courser of Kruphix for cardadvantage.
Legacy: Maverick
Pauper: UB Delver
No. She's been way faster at helping me close out games.
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I don't know how you guys always report favorable matchups against affinity and burn. I always feel like I'm dead t4 no matter what I do.
I always seem to have a good midrange MU even when I pack 0 midrange bullets (right now, I pack 1 Gideon, which seems to be enough). Affinity and burn? They never mulligan, they always kill me early, and they always have the right draw to beat a Kitchen Finks (burn) or Stony Silence/Ancient Grudge (affinity) post-board.
Btw, in the video's TCG put out today, the list ran one big thalia and it looked sweet. Anybody playing with her?
My favorite have been Goyf/Scooze/Voice in the main, and Teeg out of the board is great. I've played with Big Thalia before and was always underwhelmed for some reason.
Here are some links to a couple of sweet builds recently:
TCG Mining Modern: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZuXVQs-ZRo&t=25s
Jeff Hoogland: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_GWWuIQKPI
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4 Tarmogoyf
3 Voice of Resurgence
1 Qasali Pridemage
3 Lightning Helix
2 Scavenging Ooze
2 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
1 Selfless Spirit
2 Stony Silence
2 Destructive Revelry
-As my two drops of choice.
Those are pretty talored to my local meta but serve me well.
Modern: WUBRG Humans - GBW Traverse - GWU Knightfall - GRW Bushwhacker Zoo -
4 Windswept Heath
4 Stomping Ground
1 Mountain
7 Forest
4 Noble Hierarch
4 Tarmogoyf
4 Strangleroot Geist
3 Scavenging Ooze
4 Goblin Rabblemaster
4 Fanatic of Xenagos
2 Ahn-Crop Crasher
4 Bloodbraid Elf
2 Blood Moon
1 Smuggler's Copter
WGUBR 5c Humans
GWR Naya Zoo
Legacy:
GW GW Maverick
R Goblins
4x Wild Nacatl
2x Steppe Lynx
2x Narnam Renegade
4x Noble Hierarch
4x Knight of the Reliquary
4x Mantis Rider
2x Geist of Saint Traft
4x Bloodbraid Elf
Spells (12) :
4x Lightning Bolt
4x Lightning Helix
4x Tribal Flames
Lands (22):
4x Windswept Heath
2x Arid Mesa
3x Wooded Foothills
3x Flooded Strand
1x Kessig Wolf Run
1x Blood Crypt
1x Breeding Pool
1x Godless Shrine
1x Hallowed Fountain
1x Sacred Foundry
1x Steam Vents
1x Stomping Ground
1x Temple Garden
1x Plains
1x Bojuka Bog
1x Qasali Pridemage
1x Ghost Quarter
3x Lingering Souls
2x Molten Rain
2x Path to Exile
4x Thoughtseize
1x Tireless Tracker
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WGUBR 5c Humans
GWR Naya Zoo
Legacy:
GW GW Maverick
R Goblins