Quote from Dosequiguy »What decks specifically do you think Thing in the Ice is good for when you say "grindier" matchups? I'm asking because Spellskite gives you the same 0/4 body for 2 cmc but is so relevant in many matchups.
Quote from KeithsGenome »Thanks for the response, Greg! I'm playtesting weekly with my buddies, we've got our eyes set on a Modern tournament coming up in our town early next year, hoping a mill deck could surprise some people. My current deck is here, but I like some of your suggestions.
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Lands:4x Polluted Delta2x Marsh Flats1x Flooded Strand3x Island1x Swamp1x Steam Vents2x Watery Grave1x Hallowed Fountain1x Godless Shrine1x Oboro, Palace in the Clouds2x Shelldock Isle2x Sunken RuinsSpells:4x Dispel1x Extirpate1x Surgical Extraction4x Visions of Beyond4x Path to Exile2x Inquisition of Kozilek4x Glimpse the Unthinkable2x Hide // Seek1x Twincast4x Mind Funeral2x Damnation4x Archive TrapCreatures:4x Hedron Crab4x Snapcaster MageArtifacts:2x Mesmeric OrbSideboard:1x Chalice of the Void1x Extirpate1x Surgical Extraction4x Jace's Phantasm2x Hide // Seek2x Ghostly Prison2x Crypt Incursion2x Leyline of Sanctity
I think my lands could use a little work somehow. Part of me wants to put more fetch lands in (I only currently have one Flooded Strand but would go up to more), but I run out of lands that I can actually fetch sometimes. I like Sunken Ruins cuz often what I want to cast requires very specific colours (twincast on glimpse for example) and filtering is nice. Shelldock Isle usually hits, but comes into play tapped and usually only casts a Mind Funeral. So one mana (comes in tapped) plus 2 mana (one blue, and tap Shelldock) means the 3 CMC spell is not really getting any discount.
Hide // Seek I also use in conjunction with a Steam Vents as my anti-artifact/enchantment spell, so it's not just to strip Emrakul out with Seek. But yea, bad against burn for sure, the biggest drop I usually see is 3 or 4. Currently at 2 main and 2 SB.
Snapcaster with Mesmeric Orb is pretty bomber, snapping back a path or visions at EOT can be clutch, even stuff in my graveyard that just got milled there instead of being played. It's been great for me.
Re: Mind Funeral vs Startled Awake, I think I prefer Mind Funeral. Yea, inconsistent at times, but in decks running lots of fetch lands, I bet 4 lands averages out to 12-13 cards anyway, and 3 vs 4 CMC means snapping it back is more convenient.
I used to run 4 twincasts, and while it's a big hitter, it's expensive like you said, and often coloured mana dependent. I've been pulling them out slowly in favour of other stuff but am left with a one of still.
IOK works nicely with Extirpate and Surgical Extraction I find. Undecided which I like better, it depends if the other player has counters (Extirpate) or not (Surgical cuz it's "free")
Dispel is alright, thinking about subbing for Spell Pierce or Remand though, just because sometimes there's non-instants you want to hit. The 1 CMC is nice cuz unlike most blue control decks, we don't run many cards that can be cast at EOT, so it sucks to hold your mana back without a backup plan to spend it on.
Your thoughts on Phantasm made me stick 4 of in the SB, I'm pretty intrigued now. I'm going to stick them mainboard to start my next match (likely -Twincast, -Dispel, -2x Mind Funeral) and see how it works for me. I had brief thoughts of throwing a 4x Geist of Saint Traft in SB, which would let me sub in a heavy beatdown package for game 2 after they sub out their creature control once they see I'm a mill deck. Element of surprise. But pulling cards out is tough
I had 4x Thing in the Ice previously SB for Zoo/burn creatures, but found him to be mostly ineffective, though I did transform him once (instant speed Visions and Extraction) to bounce my opponents creatures pre-combat which led to a win.
That mention of Spellskite intrigues me too, I've only got a one of in my collection. I haven't playtested against infect yet.
Quote from The_Patch »In OP, why does he include Misty Rainforest with no green splash?