MTG Salvation

Title says it all, I've been having an idea to use Dungrove Elder as I always thought it was a fun card when I played it in Standard during Scars/Innistrad Standard years ago and never forgot it. I think it could use work still and looking for opinions...



Any help would be appreciated. I'm toying with Birds of Paradise VS Noble Hierarch. Both have advantages and disadvantages

Tarmogoyf! I knew I forgot something. Updated the list, would like opinions please.

Hi,

Using Blanchwood Armor with Dungrove Elder and other hexproof creatures is interesting.

Invisible Stalker is nice but I'm not sure that adding blue for this card alone is worth it. Silhana Ledgewalker is just as good in many situations and green also has all the best CMC1 hexproof creatures : Gladecover Scout and Slippery Bogle.

You are missing all the basic extra land spells : Sakura-Tribe Elder, Search for Tomorrow, Rampant Growth etc...

If you really want to keep blue you could also try the brand new Growth Spiral.

I don't see what Tarmogoyf is doing here. Vines of Vastwood won't help your hexproof creatures.

Thank you for the opinion. I've updated accordingly to reflect some changes. Sakura-Tribe Elder I think will do better than Birds, so I set it for 5 fetch lands and two islands to in the event my Breeding Pool's get wrecked or Blood Moon/Magus.

They need to make enemy colored Battle Lands.

Cartouche of Knowledge only gives +1/+1, but seems better than spectral flight because of the card draw.

The first thing I have to say is that it will be very difficult to cast Daybreak Coronet with "just" 4x Temple Garden and 5 fetchlands consistently in the early turns. But eh, the life link is needed and its the best card in that slot.

I like your concept to use Dungrove Elder, as it mainly guarantees a sticky threat against decks with Chalice of the Void or Engineered Explosives in comparison to the bogle deck you usually see.

It really feels like a meta call.

If you want to make the "high" mana cost of 3 your forte I'd suggest to use Trinisphere as a way to make your opponents suffer while your deck still works fine with it. This way you might catch some aggro and combo decks like the new UR Phoenix off guard while developing a threat with Dungrove Elder will be clearly superior to the usual bogle in that given context. On that note Unflinching Courage and Armadillo Cloak both are easier to cast than Daybreak Coronet while also perfectly fitting the 3 mana theme. Also I have to reinforce the suggestion of Search for Tomorrow from Amerigo99 as it also fits perfectly in this train of thought.

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Cartouche of Knowledge only gives +1/+1, but seems better than spectral flight because of the card draw.

I forgot about the Cartouche's they do count as cards for Tarmogoyf to make him bigger. So I dropped Spectral Flight for Knowledge because of that card draw.

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The first thing I have to say is that it will be very difficult to cast Daybreak Coronet with "just" 4x Temple Garden and 5 fetchlands consistently in the early turns. But eh, the life link is needed and its the best card in that slot.

I like your concept to use Dungrove Elder, as it mainly guarantees a sticky threat against decks with Chalice of the Void or Engineered Explosives in comparison to the bogle deck you usually see.

It really feels like a meta call.

If you want to make the "high" mana cost of 3 your forte I'd suggest to use Trinisphere as a way to make your opponents suffer while your deck still works fine with it. This way you might catch some aggro and combo decks like the new UR Phoenix off guard while developing a threat with Dungrove Elder will be clearly superior to the usual bogle in that given context. On that note Unflinching Courage and Armadillo Cloak both are easier to cast than Daybreak Coronet while also perfectly fitting the 3 mana theme. Also I have to reinforce the suggestion of Search for Tomorrow from Amerigo99 as it also fits perfectly in this train of thought.

I didn't think about Trinisphere and a lot of the stuff already is a 2 drop, 1 more wouldn't hurt especially with the amount of lands and speed. I put them in my sideboard however. I like Armadillo Cloak more but it's NOT Modern Legal, so I put in Unflinching Courage over Daybreak Coronet. What would I drop or reduce for Search for Tomorrow? Maybe the Sakura-Tribe Elders as they put them in tapped.

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Bump: I've been thinking about using Torpor Orb and Leyline of the Void or Rest in Peace to help with some topping decks. What do you guys think?

updated, did some second thinking and dropped Goyf for stuff.

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