Modern is a young and promising Format. Right now, it is the medevial period of Modern, and there is a widespread rumor that this Format will be a mainstay format of MTG soon, so brewing new archetypes and strategy would be best for each MTG player, a chance for everyone to grow. that is why modern format was created.
Why Play Polymorph?
This Archetype is Unproven but promising, why? it cheats a awefully large creature into play without effort, now the absence of show and tell and the likes would suggest that this archetype is their modern version
What is the advantage of polymorph against other TOP decks?
1.) it can combo out without searching anything from the library, so effects that would disable search engine is not a problem.
2.) Cards like pithing needle and the likes does not have an effect to you
3.) You dont need yard. so yard hates is irrelevant against you.
4.) you can win without comboing out via tokens and control.
Core Cards:
Polymorph - the ace of my base, this deck revolves around this spell, is as to why there is no other creature spells than emrakul and progenitus.
Timely reinforcements - as i've said, winning with this deck is a long and winding road, so we need spells that can stall us the game. this spell is perfect. your opponent is 20 with a creature and you are 19 with no one. cast this and the game might as well turn around on your favor.
Midnight haunting - Instant speed token generator. perfect for a turn 4 polymorph
Elspeth, Knight-errant - well, a token generator and a win condition in one. drop her whenever and you might as well be winning the game.
Progenitus - The best creature for this deck as this creature is not affected by yard hate when you discard it and basically has protection from everything but mass removals.
Emrakul, The aeons torn - second best becaouse of its anihilator ability and the size, but can be affected by yard hate when is discarded.
Support Cards:
Besides from Timely Reinforcements, these are the cards that support the archetype.
Supreme Verdict - Uncounterable mass destruction. The best there is for decks that has W splash.
Wrath of God - Ranked 2nd because of the "cannot regenerate" effect of the card.
Sphinx revelation - Gain life, draw cards. something you would want mid to late game. again, it stalls you the game.
Cryptic Command - The best counterspell there is in modern, and the best utility card for U. can either stall you the game, can be a spot removal, draw, counter. its a 2 for 1 effect
Izzet charm - it has multiple functions, its like a mini Cryptic command. Draw and discard outlet, burn, counter.
Faithless Looting - The reason why you play Red is because of this spell. Sorcery speed, but very useful at 1cmc.
See Beyond - a useful spell at 2cmc, same use as faithless looting.
Peer through depths - digs five cards down to search for Polymorph/token-maker/Path/counterspell as needed
Vapor Snag - Cheap pseudo Spot removal, with the damage. can stall you the game while hurting them.
Mana Fixers:
Signets - Whatever fits your color, whenever you land it, it is effective.
Nothing else to add yet, modern is young. LOL
Sideboard options:
Leyline of sanctity - again, you would want to stall the 2nd game. we'll need this to piss off our opponents day and land a win condition before they even mess our life or hand.
Pithing Needle - Stops a lot of things, might as well be in there than not.
Detention Sphere - Answers to a lot, stalls a lot of time for you to setup.
Disenchant - Oldschool, but still effective. this deck hates enchantments.
Strategy:
Besides from the obvious "I stall the game and land Emmy/Prog" strategy, here are some more strategy to the deck that needs to be kept in mind while playing.
Elspeth + Supreme Verdict + manland
this combination allows you to wipe out all creatures on board leaving you with a permanent threat that cannot be stopped.
Beast within - another tech to be considered. can remove lands like tron lands and the like. best for situations like - opponents sacs rachet bomb/engineered explosive for 0, put on the stack, detroy any target permanent so the token wont bother you.
Terastodon - can be a nifty creature choice when MB or SB.
B
Leyline of the void - best yard hate IMO, if ever yards would be a problem for modern, this is an auto include.
Grave pact - can be a good tech against opposing creature based decks, but can cost dearly
Liliana of the veil - this card should be a MB if you splash black in your deck, anyway i listed it since she is my fav walker ATM.
Duress / Inquisiion of kozilek / Thoughtseize - Stops combo and their tricks, the absence of brainstorm makes these spell a little stronger in modern.
Artifacts
Torpor Orb - since our deck does not have ETB effects. this should be a best option against kiki jiki or splinter combo.
Proteus Staff - this is our polymorph number 5, i just dont know waht to take out on my list, but still, this can be a viable option for game 2.
Since i havent tested yet. will post sooner with some strategy that involves sideboarding.
This is my first list to test in the coming weekends.
This topic arises once every few weeks/months. There used to be a decent primer for polymorph/tokens, particularly the UW variant, but I was unable to locate it. Some recent discussions can be found here, here and here. The UB Primer can be found here.
I've long been fond of the deck, myself, as it's a blast to play, and it never falls flat when you don't combo.
I hope that this thread gets stickied like the rest.
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I would probably consider proteus staff as well. timely reinforcements isn't bad at all, but eye in the skies is terrible, at least for modern. I would rather see something like inkmoth nexus, blinkmoth nexus, or mutavault. All of these are excellent "targets" that aren't actually creatures for you.
I would probably consider proteus staff as well. timely reinforcements isn't bad at all, but eye in the skies is terrible, at least for modern. I would rather see something like inkmoth nexus, blinkmoth nexus, or mutavault. All of these are excellent "targets" that aren't actually creatures for you.
Yeah the staff is really good. I'd say Lingering Souls is a good choice.
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Lingering souls is good, but I would still have a backup manland plan, myself. I think lingering souls would probably be better than timely reinforcements, though.
thanks for the comments, i havent tested it yet.. its not weekend yet. so. here are why i chose the cards on my list.
I chose timely reinforcements over lingering souls mainly because of how it stalls you the game while setting up polymorph.
I've considered proteus staff, i might sink in 1 to 2 copies.. just dont know what to take out.
yeah eyes in the sky is bad, however because of its instant speed i decided to sink in 3 copies. it is IMO a nice setup when your opponent is caught offguard tapping all his/her lands.
the colors of this deck is UWR because of.. Faithless looting since we dont have brainstorm. we need this effect to discard our kill condition putting them back in the library. so thats why there is no lingering souls on my list.
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I like midnight haunting. turn 4 polymorph. that could end the game.
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This topic arises once every few weeks/months. There used to be a decent primer for polymorph/tokens, particularly the UW variant, but I was unable to locate it. Some recent discussions can be found here, here and here. The UB Primer can be found here.
I've long been fond of the deck, myself, as it's a blast to play, and it never falls flat when you don't combo.
This topic arises once every few weeks/months. There used to be a decent primer for polymorph/tokens, particularly the UW variant, but I was unable to locate it. Some recent discussions can be found here, here and here. The UB Primer can be found here.
I've long been fond of the deck, myself, as it's a blast to play, and it never falls flat when you don't combo.
thanks for the info.. well since people tend to discontinue the discussion, maybe we need a solid thread for polymorph and we can discuss it all here, along with all the variants..
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I personally like to run a more aggressive token build than a control-oriented build. I will have to see if I can dig up a list, but I know I ran Spectral Procession/Lingering Souls along with the anthems (Honor of the Pure and Intangible Virtue). I also ran Windbrisk Heights as an alternative to polymorph.
I personally like to run a more aggressive token build than a control-oriented build. I will have to see if I can dig up a list, but I know I ran Spectral Procession/Lingering Souls along with the anthems (Honor of the Pure and Intangible Virtue). I also ran Windbrisk Heights as an alternative to polymorph.
This is definitely another feasible route for the deck, but I'm not sure which is better. On the one hand, the UWb version has an alternate win condition in its aggro route, as well as an alternate Polymorph in Windbrisk. But on the other hand, it's effectively a diluted version of both Tokens and a "true" Polymorph.
The purer version of Polymorph has the added bonus of using more tutors and draw effects, as well as more protection for its combo. Maindecking Dispel and/or Spell Pierce (or even Apostle's Blessing) would definitely help out the combo's consistency in a removal-choked format. But once you go all-in on a Proteus Staff/Polymorph route, you are really leaving yourself at the mercy of also drawing protection, effectively turning the combo from a 1.5 card combo into a 2.5 one.
So I'm not sure what the best approach is, even if I do like the deck's overarching premise.
Slightly updated variant of my previous deck. I changed Remand to Deprive since it has a nice pairing with Khalni Garden and it makes for uncounterable tokens. I am debating whether Ghostly Flicker has a place in this deck, as it can also be used to generated tokens off of Khalni Garden, but it can also combo with Worldspine Wurm to make 3 large Wurm tokens.
A lot of UW control variants had been trying to limit their Fetch->Shock damage due to the aggressive natue of aggro and burn/tempo burn, but that fact aside; I really do recommend Inkmoth Nexus. With Elspeth, it's an alternate wincon that ignores lifegain, and can end the games in a few turns. You want a Fetch Shock setup anyways to have greater control over Timely, but still worth considering Inkmoths. Another thing to consider is that Inkmoth fits into your landbase, and relieves some slots that are otherwise taken up by token generation; you can squeeze in some more permission or removal etc.
I also liked a singleton Tamiyo, because with 4 MB Timely and some bounce/removal/dig/board wipe or whatever, her Emblem can be quite demoralizing. I never bothered with Signets but fiddled with a few Talismans, and just found that a control setup with Poly package worked best for me (with Proteus Staff as poly #5, and removed if sideboard Stoney Silence was boarded in past G1). If you decide to add B, Talismans become more useful as you can tap for Path to Exile/Thoughtseize on turn 2 of necessary, and of course add Lingering Souls. The main problem is not casting Poly, but protecting the target after it tries to resolve; maybe consider Apostles Blessing or Turn Aside? <Edit; missed the Dispels in your list, my bad >
Definitely agree with the Emrakul/Progenitus split, to help dodge Slaughter Games or whatever; they both have their own merits but are huge anyways. Terastodon was another favourite of mine. Consider sideboard Surgical Extraction as it can help your Timely as well as turn off opposing combo or land combo decks (Tron, Valakut, Twin etc) also, due to your mainboard land hate.
A lot of UW control variants had been trying to limit their Fetch->Shock damage due to the aggressive natue of aggro and burn/tempo burn, but that fact aside; I really do recommend Inkmoth Nexus. With Elspeth, it's an alternate wincon that ignores lifegain, and can end the games in a few turns. You want a Fetch Shock setup anyways to have greater control over Timely, but still worth considering Inkmoths. Another thing to consider is that Inkmoth fits into your landbase, and relieves some slots that are otherwise taken up by token generation; you can squeeze in some more permission or removal etc.
I also liked a singleton Tamiyo, because with 4 MB Timely and some bounce/removal/dig/board wipe or whatever, her Emblem can be quite demoralizing. I never bothered with Signets but fiddled with a few Talismans, and just found that a control setup with Poly package worked best for me (with Proteus Staff as poly #5, and removed if sideboard Stoney Silence was boarded in past G1). If you decide to add B, Talismans become more useful as you can tap for Path to Exile/Thoughtseize on turn 2 of necessary, and of course add Lingering Souls. The main problem is not casting Poly, but protecting the target after it tries to resolve; maybe consider Apostles Blessing or Turn Aside? <Edit; missed the Dispels in your list, my bad >
Definitely agree with the Emrakul/Progenitus split, to help dodge Slaughter Games or whatever; they both have their own merits but are huge anyways. Terastodon was another favourite of mine. Consider sideboard Surgical Extraction as it can help your Timely as well as turn off opposing combo or land combo decks (Tron, Valakut, Twin etc) also, due to your mainboard land hate.
I don't think Emrakul's or Progenitus's protection would save them from either. Definitely not Slaughter Games as the target is your opponent and not the card.
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I don't think Emrakul's or Progenitus's protection would save them from either. Definitely not Slaughter Games as the target is your opponent and not the card.
What are you talking about?
If you are using two Emrakul as Polymorph targets, then Slaughter Games can take them both out; by using a tag-team of Emrakul and Progenitus, one resolved Slaughter Games will not nullify your combo.
@pizzap - I always liked the idea of khalni garden. adding green can add some tricks and tips. however, my main concern is a discard outlet if you draw to emrakul or progenitus. no other color can provide it... can you brew 4cc polymorph? if you have a sample list. it can defntly healp the thread.
@AKA_Dreadge - thanks for your insight.. but is slaughter games a mainboard option for some decks in modern? I think Leyline of sanctity can take care of it G2 if its not a MB option. all yard hates targets an opponents graveyard, unless its Relic of progenitus.
I was thinking. Polymorph deck is UWx.. the 3rd color varies, but the best partner is W because of the board wipe it provide.
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but see beyond is 2cmc. for a sorcery speed. anyway, i see your point, however, i consider 1cmc for cantrips. I will add see beyond on my list of cards. thanks!
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If you're going heavy tokens, you might want to consider something like Shrine of Loyal Legions. Drop that on turn 2 and it helps disguise your plan. It's also a finisher in this deck; it's not uncommon to get 8 or 9 tokens after stalling for awhile.
The beauty of this one is that it plays like a common token deck until you bust out the Polymorph, and can actually win that way as well. Your board should probably include things like Negate for when they pull in their control.
If you're going heavy tokens, you might want to consider something like Shrine of Loyal Legions. Drop that on turn 2 and it helps disguise your plan. It's also a finisher in this deck; it's not uncommon to get 8 or 9 tokens after stalling for awhile.
The beauty of this one is that it plays like a common token deck until you bust out the Polymorph, and can actually win that way as well. Your board should probably include things like Negate for when they pull in their control.
I like that plan, looks fun, however, there is way too much artifact hate in modern for it to be able to work or be the win condition, correct?
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I love my Polymorph deck, and have found it highly competitive at least at the local store tournaments. My variant is W/U/b (splashing black for Lingering Souls).
A few cards that I haven't seen mentioned, though it's possible I missed the mention... Peer Through Depths...digs five cards down to search for Polymorph/token-maker/Path/counterspell as needed. I have never been disappointed with Peer, and it's saved me many times. I don't know if it's must have, but I sure wouldn't leave home without it. See Beyond/Thirst for Knowledge... neither is optimal, but it's nice to have ways to put Emrakul back for later Polymorphing if you happen to draw him.
I've seen versions with Sorin also... another token maker, plus his anthem effect can be handy. I don't run him myself, but if you don't have Elspeth he could be solid.
I'm considering switching Progenitus in over Emrakul...people always seem to have the O-ring waiting...
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blightsteel colossus is too vulnerable. as you've said. it is impossible for a deck not to run spot removals, bounce etc. so why take the risk?
on the otherhand. I like Lava Axe, maybe a one of's would be a good addition. discard outlet + spot removal. LOL
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indeed is lightning Axe. sorry bout that, anyway, goodluck with your playtest. im looking forward with your TP results.
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Modern is a young and promising Format. Right now, it is the medevial period of Modern, and there is a widespread rumor that this Format will be a mainstay format of MTG soon, so brewing new archetypes and strategy would be best for each MTG player, a chance for everyone to grow. that is why modern format was created.
Why Play Polymorph?
This Archetype is Unproven but promising, why? it cheats a awefully large creature into play without effort, now the absence of show and tell and the likes would suggest that this archetype is their modern version
What is the advantage of polymorph against other TOP decks?
1.) it can combo out without searching anything from the library, so effects that would disable search engine is not a problem.
2.) Cards like pithing needle and the likes does not have an effect to you
3.) You dont need yard. so yard hates is irrelevant against you.
4.) you can win without comboing out via tokens and control.
Core Cards:
Timely reinforcements - as i've said, winning with this deck is a long and winding road, so we need spells that can stall us the game. this spell is perfect. your opponent is 20 with a creature and you are 19 with no one. cast this and the game might as well turn around on your favor.
Midnight haunting - Instant speed token generator. perfect for a turn 4 polymorph
Elspeth, Knight-errant - well, a token generator and a win condition in one. drop her whenever and you might as well be winning the game.
Progenitus - The best creature for this deck as this creature is not affected by yard hate when you discard it and basically has protection from everything but mass removals.
Emrakul, The aeons torn - second best becaouse of its anihilator ability and the size, but can be affected by yard hate when is discarded.
Supreme Verdict - Uncounterable mass destruction. The best there is for decks that has W splash.
Wrath of God - Ranked 2nd because of the "cannot regenerate" effect of the card.
Day of Judgement - last on my list, cheap and affordable.
Sphinx revelation - Gain life, draw cards. something you would want mid to late game. again, it stalls you the game.
Cryptic Command - The best counterspell there is in modern, and the best utility card for U. can either stall you the game, can be a spot removal, draw, counter. its a 2 for 1 effect
Dispel - Hates out counters. no exemptions.
Izzet charm - it has multiple functions, its like a mini Cryptic command. Draw and discard outlet, burn, counter.
Faithless Looting - The reason why you play Red is because of this spell. Sorcery speed, but very useful at 1cmc.
See Beyond - a useful spell at 2cmc, same use as faithless looting.
Peer through depths - digs five cards down to search for Polymorph/token-maker/Path/counterspell as needed
Vapor Snag - Cheap pseudo Spot removal, with the damage. can stall you the game while hurting them.
Signets - Whatever fits your color, whenever you land it, it is effective.
Nothing else to add yet, modern is young. LOL
Leyline of sanctity - again, you would want to stall the 2nd game. we'll need this to piss off our opponents day and land a win condition before they even mess our life or hand.
Pithing Needle - Stops a lot of things, might as well be in there than not.
Engineered Explosives - is a the bomb when you have 3 colors on your radar.
Detention Sphere - Answers to a lot, stalls a lot of time for you to setup.
Disenchant - Oldschool, but still effective. this deck hates enchantments.
Strategy:
Elspeth + Supreme Verdict + manland
this combination allows you to wipe out all creatures on board leaving you with a permanent threat that cannot be stopped.
Other cards to be considered
U
Mindbreak Trap - against storm.
Wipe Away - our deck is spell based, so split second cards are very useful, almost an uncounterable removal.
W
Pollen Lullaby - great for aggro meta, clears out the battlefield and stalls the game. another great suggestion from our folks at polymoprh thread.
Angel's grace - Prevents you from losing
Rule of law - Good SB cards against Storm decks
Entreat the angels - i feel that this card would be a waste of slot for this deck with the absence of library manipulation
R
Pyroclasm - a good SB against token based deck, replasing supreme verdict
Lightning Axe - a nice spot removal with a discard outlet, perfect for stall and win game plan.
G
Krosan grip - uncounterable removal spell.
Beast within - another tech to be considered. can remove lands like tron lands and the like. best for situations like - opponents sacs rachet bomb/engineered explosive for 0, put on the stack, detroy any target permanent so the token wont bother you.
Terastodon - can be a nifty creature choice when MB or SB.
B
Grave pact - can be a good tech against opposing creature based decks, but can cost dearly
Liliana of the veil - this card should be a MB if you splash black in your deck, anyway i listed it since she is my fav walker ATM.
Duress / Inquisiion of kozilek / Thoughtseize - Stops combo and their tricks, the absence of brainstorm makes these spell a little stronger in modern.
Artifacts
Torpor Orb - since our deck does not have ETB effects. this should be a best option against kiki jiki or splinter combo.
Proteus Staff - this is our polymorph number 5, i just dont know waht to take out on my list, but still, this can be a viable option for game 2.
Since i havent tested yet. will post sooner with some strategy that involves sideboarding.
This is my first list to test in the coming weekends.
4 Timely Reinforcements
3 midnight haunting
3 Elspeth, Knight-errant
3 Supreme verdict
2 Cryptic Command
3 Dispel
3 Izzet Charm
3 Faithless looting
4 Vapor Snag
1 Progenitus
1 Emrakul, the aeons torn
2 Azorius signet
4 Scalding Tarn
4 Arid mesa
2 Hallowed fountain
2 Steam vents
3 Ghost Quarter
3 Island
2 plains
1 Mountain
1 Celestial Colonade
3 torpor orb
1 pithing needle
4 Leyline of sanctity
4 proteus staff
3 Engineered explosives
Here's another deck that i'm brewing.
4 Windbrisk Heights
2 Breeding pool
1 Hallowed Fountain
3 Hinterland Harbor
3 Glacial Fortress
4 Misty rainforest
2 island
2 Forest
3 Growth spasm
4 Timely reinforcements
2 Midnight haunting
1 White sun's Zenith
2 Elspeth, Knight-errant
3 Dispel
2 Cryptic Command
4 Supreme Verdict
3 See beyond
3 Peer through depths
4 Polymorph
1 Progenitus
1 Emrakul, the aeons torn
3 Torpor orb
4 Engineered explosives
4 Leyline of sanctity
4 Proteus staff
Esper Poly
2 Elspetth, knight-errant
3 Liliana of the veil
3 thoughtseize
3 Inquisition of kozilek
3 Cryptic command
4 Lingering souls
4 Timely Reinforcements
3 Supreme Verdict
3 See beyond
4 Polymorph
1 Emrakul, Aeons torn
1 Progenitus
2 Hallowed Fountain
2 Watery Grave
3 Glacial Fortress
3 Drowned Catacombs
3 Isolated CHapel
4 Marsh Flats
2 Island
1 Swamp
1 Plains
4 Proteus staff
3 torpor orb
2 Blind Obedience
4 Oblivion Ring
2 Extirpate
if anyone would like to add anything. feel free to post it.
Below are some threads that discussed polymorph before.
I hope that this thread gets stickied like the rest.
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EDH - UWGrand Arbiter Agustin IV
UBW Oloro, Ageless Ascetic
Modern - Mono U tron / Polymorph / NFTW (ninja for the win)GR tron GR
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Yeah the staff is really good. I'd say Lingering Souls is a good choice.
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Standard: Turbofog Maze's End
Modern: Goblins, IzzeTron, Tempo Twin
Legacy: Burn
Commander: Scion of the Ur-Dragon
I chose timely reinforcements over lingering souls mainly because of how it stalls you the game while setting up polymorph.
I've considered proteus staff, i might sink in 1 to 2 copies.. just dont know what to take out.
yeah eyes in the sky is bad, however because of its instant speed i decided to sink in 3 copies. it is IMO a nice setup when your opponent is caught offguard tapping all his/her lands.
the colors of this deck is UWR because of.. Faithless looting since we dont have brainstorm. we need this effect to discard our kill condition putting them back in the library. so thats why there is no lingering souls on my list.
EDH - UWGrand Arbiter Agustin IV
UBW Oloro, Ageless Ascetic
Modern - Mono U tron / Polymorph / NFTW (ninja for the win)GR tron GR
Buy All the Dual Lands!!!
Buy All the fetches!
Create tons of EDH Decks!!!
Eat Nothing but Oats!! (LOL, not true)
Train MMA!!!
Marry My girlfriend!!!
Get her Pregnant only Once!
Teach my Son/Daughter Sports and magic cards!!!
Continue my legacy son!!!/Daughter!!
EDH - UWGrand Arbiter Agustin IV
UBW Oloro, Ageless Ascetic
Modern - Mono U tron / Polymorph / NFTW (ninja for the win)GR tron GR
Buy All the Dual Lands!!!
Buy All the fetches!
Create tons of EDH Decks!!!
Eat Nothing but Oats!! (LOL, not true)
Train MMA!!!
Marry My girlfriend!!!
Get her Pregnant only Once!
Teach my Son/Daughter Sports and magic cards!!!
Continue my legacy son!!!/Daughter!!
I've long been fond of the deck, myself, as it's a blast to play, and it never falls flat when you don't combo.
CG
thanks for the info.. well since people tend to discontinue the discussion, maybe we need a solid thread for polymorph and we can discuss it all here, along with all the variants..
EDH - UWGrand Arbiter Agustin IV
UBW Oloro, Ageless Ascetic
Modern - Mono U tron / Polymorph / NFTW (ninja for the win)GR tron GR
Buy All the Dual Lands!!!
Buy All the fetches!
Create tons of EDH Decks!!!
Eat Nothing but Oats!! (LOL, not true)
Train MMA!!!
Marry My girlfriend!!!
Get her Pregnant only Once!
Teach my Son/Daughter Sports and magic cards!!!
Continue my legacy son!!!/Daughter!!
CG
This is definitely another feasible route for the deck, but I'm not sure which is better. On the one hand, the UWb version has an alternate win condition in its aggro route, as well as an alternate Polymorph in Windbrisk. But on the other hand, it's effectively a diluted version of both Tokens and a "true" Polymorph.
The purer version of Polymorph has the added bonus of using more tutors and draw effects, as well as more protection for its combo. Maindecking Dispel and/or Spell Pierce (or even Apostle's Blessing) would definitely help out the combo's consistency in a removal-choked format. But once you go all-in on a Proteus Staff/Polymorph route, you are really leaving yourself at the mercy of also drawing protection, effectively turning the combo from a 1.5 card combo into a 2.5 one.
So I'm not sure what the best approach is, even if I do like the deck's overarching premise.
4x Krenko's Command
4x Wind Zendikon
4x Khalni Garden
Morphers (8)
4x Polymorph
4x Proteus Staff
Creatures (4)
1x Emrakul, The Aeons Torn
3x Worldspine Wurm
2x Faithless Looting
4x Fling
2x Izzet Charm
4x Into the Roil
4x Deprive
2x Spell Pierce
4x Scalding Tarn
4x Steam Vents
4x Sulfur Falls
2x Mountain
4x Island
I also liked a singleton Tamiyo, because with 4 MB Timely and some bounce/removal/dig/board wipe or whatever, her Emblem can be quite demoralizing. I never bothered with Signets but fiddled with a few Talismans, and just found that a control setup with Poly package worked best for me (with Proteus Staff as poly #5, and removed if sideboard Stoney Silence was boarded in past G1). If you decide to add B, Talismans become more useful as you can tap for Path to Exile/Thoughtseize on turn 2 of necessary, and of course add Lingering Souls. The main problem is not casting Poly, but protecting the target after it tries to resolve; maybe consider Apostles Blessing or Turn Aside? <Edit; missed the Dispels in your list, my bad >
Definitely agree with the Emrakul/Progenitus split, to help dodge Slaughter Games or whatever; they both have their own merits but are huge anyways. Terastodon was another favourite of mine. Consider sideboard Surgical Extraction as it can help your Timely as well as turn off opposing combo or land combo decks (Tron, Valakut, Twin etc) also, due to your mainboard land hate.
Worship is also hilarious
I don't think Emrakul's or Progenitus's protection would save them from either. Definitely not Slaughter Games as the target is your opponent and not the card.
What are you talking about?
If you are using two Emrakul as Polymorph targets, then Slaughter Games can take them both out; by using a tag-team of Emrakul and Progenitus, one resolved Slaughter Games will not nullify your combo.
@AKA_Dreadge - thanks for your insight.. but is slaughter games a mainboard option for some decks in modern? I think Leyline of sanctity can take care of it G2 if its not a MB option. all yard hates targets an opponents graveyard, unless its Relic of progenitus.
I was thinking. Polymorph deck is UWx.. the 3rd color varies, but the best partner is W because of the board wipe it provide.
EDH - UWGrand Arbiter Agustin IV
UBW Oloro, Ageless Ascetic
Modern - Mono U tron / Polymorph / NFTW (ninja for the win)GR tron GR
Buy All the Dual Lands!!!
Buy All the fetches!
Create tons of EDH Decks!!!
Eat Nothing but Oats!! (LOL, not true)
Train MMA!!!
Marry My girlfriend!!!
Get her Pregnant only Once!
Teach my Son/Daughter Sports and magic cards!!!
Continue my legacy son!!!/Daughter!!
EDH - UWGrand Arbiter Agustin IV
UBW Oloro, Ageless Ascetic
Modern - Mono U tron / Polymorph / NFTW (ninja for the win)GR tron GR
Buy All the Dual Lands!!!
Buy All the fetches!
Create tons of EDH Decks!!!
Eat Nothing but Oats!! (LOL, not true)
Train MMA!!!
Marry My girlfriend!!!
Get her Pregnant only Once!
Teach my Son/Daughter Sports and magic cards!!!
Continue my legacy son!!!/Daughter!!
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
1 Progenitus
4 Polymorph
Tokens
4 Raise the Alarm
4 Spectral Procession
4 Lingering Souls
2 Promise of Bunrei
3 Intangible Virtue
3 Shrine of Loyal Legions
Control
4 Gitaxian Probe
4 Path to Exile
3 Supreme Verdict
4 Glacial Fortress
4 Seachrome Coast
2 Windbrisk Heights
11 Plains
3 Island
The beauty of this one is that it plays like a common token deck until you bust out the Polymorph, and can actually win that way as well. Your board should probably include things like Negate for when they pull in their control.
I like that plan, looks fun, however, there is way too much artifact hate in modern for it to be able to work or be the win condition, correct?
EDH - UWGrand Arbiter Agustin IV
UBW Oloro, Ageless Ascetic
Modern - Mono U tron / Polymorph / NFTW (ninja for the win)GR tron GR
Buy All the Dual Lands!!!
Buy All the fetches!
Create tons of EDH Decks!!!
Eat Nothing but Oats!! (LOL, not true)
Train MMA!!!
Marry My girlfriend!!!
Get her Pregnant only Once!
Teach my Son/Daughter Sports and magic cards!!!
Continue my legacy son!!!/Daughter!!
A few cards that I haven't seen mentioned, though it's possible I missed the mention... Peer Through Depths...digs five cards down to search for Polymorph/token-maker/Path/counterspell as needed. I have never been disappointed with Peer, and it's saved me many times. I don't know if it's must have, but I sure wouldn't leave home without it. See Beyond/Thirst for Knowledge... neither is optimal, but it's nice to have ways to put Emrakul back for later Polymorphing if you happen to draw him.
I've seen versions with Sorin also... another token maker, plus his anthem effect can be handy. I don't run him myself, but if you don't have Elspeth he could be solid.
I'm considering switching Progenitus in over Emrakul...people always seem to have the O-ring waiting...
Fun deck
EDH - UWGrand Arbiter Agustin IV
UBW Oloro, Ageless Ascetic
Modern - Mono U tron / Polymorph / NFTW (ninja for the win)GR tron GR
Buy All the Dual Lands!!!
Buy All the fetches!
Create tons of EDH Decks!!!
Eat Nothing but Oats!! (LOL, not true)
Train MMA!!!
Marry My girlfriend!!!
Get her Pregnant only Once!
Teach my Son/Daughter Sports and magic cards!!!
Continue my legacy son!!!/Daughter!!
Then just polymorph into Blightsteel Collossus. If they dont have path to exile you win.
on the otherhand. I like Lava Axe, maybe a one of's would be a good addition. discard outlet + spot removal. LOL
EDH - UWGrand Arbiter Agustin IV
UBW Oloro, Ageless Ascetic
Modern - Mono U tron / Polymorph / NFTW (ninja for the win)GR tron GR
Buy All the Dual Lands!!!
Buy All the fetches!
Create tons of EDH Decks!!!
Eat Nothing but Oats!! (LOL, not true)
Train MMA!!!
Marry My girlfriend!!!
Get her Pregnant only Once!
Teach my Son/Daughter Sports and magic cards!!!
Continue my legacy son!!!/Daughter!!
EDH - UWGrand Arbiter Agustin IV
UBW Oloro, Ageless Ascetic
Modern - Mono U tron / Polymorph / NFTW (ninja for the win)GR tron GR
Buy All the Dual Lands!!!
Buy All the fetches!
Create tons of EDH Decks!!!
Eat Nothing but Oats!! (LOL, not true)
Train MMA!!!
Marry My girlfriend!!!
Get her Pregnant only Once!
Teach my Son/Daughter Sports and magic cards!!!
Continue my legacy son!!!/Daughter!!