Tantarus: It didn't make the gaka greifer level, so it should be fine
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I mean, hell, we're all on a forum for something that most people would describe as a "children's card game"...do what makes you happy. You are never too old to enjoy yourself.
Quote from GreenpoeStormkirk Noble, Bloodcrazed Neonate, Markov Blademaster, Stormkirk Captain, Gatekeeper of Malakir could all be put into a version focused more on removing their threats to ensure early damage to get those +1/+1 counters, something like this:
4x Bloodcrazed Neonate
4x Markov Blademaster
4x Stormkirk Noble
4x Gatekeeper of Malakir
4x Lightning Bolt
4x Stormkirk Captain
3x Liliana of the Veil
4x Dark Confidant
4x Inquistion of Kozilek
Quote from theLukeNot to be a spoil sport or anything but I think 3 drops are the WRONG direction to take this deck. This should operate like a B/R zoo deck if I'm not mistaken, so any 3 drops would need to make huge waves like geist of st traft. My point is, Lili should be the top of our curve, we shouldn't even have to compete for the 3 slot.
Quote from SolonJheeAt least I got a Vizzerdrix.
Quote from TheChosen1How are Vampires better than Zombies, here? Messenger and Gravecrawler > Noble and Gatekeeper in Modern, without a doubt. Everything else is if not absolutely in favor of zombies.
Replace Trail and Bolt with Dismember and Tragic Slip, and have a field day.
Even Lili is vastly superior with Zombies. Part of me would play Bw Zombies with Zealous Persecution and Path over any of this as of the moment.
Quote from Poopingmypants^3-1 isn't winning. It was more like top 16.
Quote from TheChosen1So Vampires can do ANYTHING resembling Haakon + Nameless Inversion? Vampires can work off a Vial and two land and still win games by turn 5 with anything other than an absolute lucksack? Vampires can win through a single Cryptic Command, Vedalken Shackles, Firespout, Engineered Explosives, or Black Sun's Zenith?
You can play Gatekeeper and all of your other 2/2s alllll day. I'll take never-ending swings from pressure-generating inevitability instead, thanks. For every Highborn, there's a Messenger making it look bad (you know, since Burn isn't a deck and all).
...and let's be honest, B/R Vampires is the only plausible deck for the archetype. Grixis Vampires was a total joke, white vampires would be taking pointless damage just for Path? Yet B/W Zombies is stable, B/U Zombies is more than viable, and mono B Zombies is actually playable on a large scale.
Quote from PolishTamalesGreat, that's all I needed. Something Chosen didn't bother to provide in his argument. It looks Legit, but a totally different style, similar to Pox in Legacy. Seems like something Reid Duke might play for fun.
Quote from PolishTamalesI also followed up checking the dailies for this week and I was surprised to find one list, which looks like Vampires, but not quite... just the template. Surprise surprise, it doesn't run Aether Vial. It does run Gatekeeper & it doesn't run any clunky combos Chosen provided in his examples. Oh and it "runs 2/2s all day". Wait, "alllll day".[/deck]
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Modern Daily #3681338 on 04/04/2012
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Lands:4 Blackcleave Cliffs2 Blood Crypt2 Dragonskull Summit4 Lavaclaw Reaches4 Marsh Flats4 Swamp2 Verdant CatacombsCreatures:4 Dark Confidant4 Diregraf Ghoul4 Gatekeeper of Malakir4 Geralf's Messenger4 Gravecrawler4 Withered WretchSpells:2 Dismember3 Inquisition of Kozilek4 Lightning Bolt2 Terminate3 ThoughtseizeSideboard:2 Arc Trail3 Grafdigger's Cage4 Molten Rain1 Olivia Voldaren3 Shattering Spree1 Terminate1 Thoughtseize
Interesting to note that it's the same guy that placed dailies with Vampires.[/deck]
Quote from PolishTamalesSince you mentioned "any" top 8 PTQ and provided a standard version of Zombies, I might as well provide Vampire's past top 8s in standard as well.