Hmmm well you are correct in completing your playset of Path, Souls, and Godless Shrine, and Isolated Chapel. I would pick up 2 each of Windbrisk Heights and Shambling Vent, but you will generally run only a configuration of three (the spare is so you can switch for your meta). Raise the Alarm is also a must. Depending on how you choose to allocate your funds, you can pick up Inquisition of Kozilek for about $11-13 if you don't mind lightly played. Getting your last Tidehollow Scullers is also key. Sideboard is uber important and should be factored in when buying cards. I like having two Hero of Bladehold for control matchups because it just destroys them. Grafdigger's Cage is good for Nahiri, but that matchup is really good for us anyway so you can juat run Rest in Peace. After that, it's really up to you on what you can run.
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Apoligies for the double post, but I'm letting people know my results from FNM. Went 3-2, beating UG Eldrazi brew (also, an 8 year-old girl who loves casting Emrakul. That's scary!), an infamous local player known only as "Bye," and UWR Nahiri. I lost to Bant Eldrazi and RG Titan Valakut. Here's my list!
I strongly recommend not running Bitterblossom if you only have one. It sucks to draw it in the late game, so run it if you have two, not one. Jeskai Nahiri is a surprisingly good matchup, as I learned. Updated the primer to reflect this.
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As for sideboard I will have to check my LGS since its been a couple months since I last played but from what I remember being around it was:
Jund, Junk, Affinity, Mono R Burn, Souls Sisters, Abzan Company, and CoCo elves. But there were a few people I never got to play so no idea what they are running.
My plan was to definitely pickup IoK and possibly thoughtseize as well. I want to run Sculler but the more I look at it the less useful it seems to be.
It's great with Elspeth, Knight-Errant because her jump ability becomes far more relevant. He also forces them to burn a removal spell. His advantage is weird, but worth it.
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After some brewing, goldfishing, and ideas from here and the non budget primer this is what it looks like I'm going to put together. As far as sideboard goes I will wait to go to my LGS and get some more info on what exactly is playing in this area now since I've been out for awhile. Only questions so far is 4/4 of IoK and Thoughtseize too much MB. I threw timely in MB due to adding caves, fetches, and thoughtseize so I figured I would probably be low on life fairly often.
Quick market alert. Sorin, Solemn Visitor keeps going down in price. He's only going to drop unless Tokens becomes a tiered deck. If you need yours, get them now. Inquisition of Kozilek is also finally down to $15, get them while they are cheap!
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After some brewing, goldfishing, and ideas from here and the non budget primer this is what it looks like I'm going to put together. As far as sideboard goes I will wait to go to my LGS and get some more info on what exactly is playing in this area now since I've been out for awhile. Only questions so far is 4/4 of IoK and Thoughtseize too much MB. I threw timely in MB due to adding caves, fetches, and thoughtseize so I figured I would probably be low on life fairly often.
In my experience 6-7 is ideal. 8 is overkill most of the time. If you really want access to them because they are so killer in some particular match up you could always tuck the extras in the board.
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8 is very much overkill, you need to disruption early so six will be good, it's your best turn one play, 2 best turn two play and sometime best trunk two depending on who your playing. 4 Inquisition for sure, two thoughtsize. That's the best combo, then if you need you can always go up one thought if your lgs needs it.
Timely main is only good in meta games needs it, I would move sideboard until you know. main. If they play zoo, goblins, burn, merfolk, elfs, or other creatures heavy then two main is fine. It's only see main board if creatures rush decks are seeing lot of play. If not odds are good it will only gain life if thst.
For me timely is only good behind dead card otherwise
Remove dismember and cuts to sideboard, I would go two dismember over one of each. It is a kill vs minus, but not many creatures you want just dead vs chump blocking.
That's just my opinion, cut is good you have fetch so can speed it up when you can use it, but for me. I find paying life is easier. It will always hit early, vs cut only sometimes, some games u need it early.
I actually disagree here. I really like Murderous Cut. It's one mana kill a guy, no questions asked. We actually fill our yard very consistently without exiling Lingering Souls. Both offer different utility and I feel like one of each is where we want to be.
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Has anybody tried Entreat the Angels? It seems great (and absolutely hysterical) for Raise the Alarm builds that lack late game inevitability. As one of I think it would be fine.
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Has anybody tried Entreat the Angels? It seems great (and absolutely hysterical) for Raise the Alarm builds that lack late game inevitability. As one of I think it would be fine.
It's clunky though if it sticks in your hand. Secure the Wastes is easier to cast, but only strictly better with a Hymn or 2.
Also the Walkers gives the deck plenty of reach Lategame.
Elspeth is a bit weak, think of cutting here for a third Sorin or 2nd Gideon.
Maybe i'll tick up Honor of the Pure, because it buffs Shambling Vent - which is then out of Lightning Bolt-RAnge (her biggest weakness).
Wall isn't what this deck wants and Liliana was fantastic in Eldrazi Winter but has since fallen from her grace. She's actually just terrible in our deck now tbh, and take it from someone who played her! Ob Nixilis seems interesting. Maybe I'll run Entreat because I always start drawing like 4 straight lands in the late game lol. Entreat is just super fun to play I guess.
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How is everybody getting by on the aggro matchups? I'm struggling pretty hard right now.
Lifegain helps. I'm playing 2 Timely Reinforcements main and one more in the sideboard. If your meta is heavy on burn and zoo, I'd recommend Auriok Champion (a little pricey unfortunately). I tried both Hour of reckoning and wrath of god and found them to be too slow most of the time. Don't run too many lands that enter the battlefield tapped (max 3 between Shambling Vent and windbrisk heights). Depending on your meta, play some specific hate in the sideboard (engineered explosives is nice vs. merfolk for example).
Edit: Didn't see you're running the primer So you probably know about all that already. Anyway, I'm usually doing fine with my aggro matchups, I'm struggling more with combo and Tron because we lack a fast clock...
I'm looking to keep this primer up to date. If you have lists or matchup advice let me know! I am ome person, and with so many players my experience cannot equate to that of everybody else's.
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4x Godless Shrine
4x Isolated Chapel
2x Windbrisk Heights
1x Shambling Vent
1x Windswept Heath
1x Vault of the Archangel
1x Caves of Koilos
1x Fetid Heath
2x Swamp
7x Plains
4x Lingering Souls
4x Spectral Procession
1x Timely Reinforcements
1x Bitterblossom (MOVIN UP IN THE WORLD!!!!)
3x Thoughtseize
3x Inquisition of Kozilek
4x Path to Exile
1x Dismember
1x Murderous Cut
1x Zealous Persecution
4x Intangible Virtue
1x Call the Bloodline
3x Sorin, Solemn Visitor
I strongly recommend not running Bitterblossom if you only have one. It sucks to draw it in the late game, so run it if you have two, not one. Jeskai Nahiri is a surprisingly good matchup, as I learned. Updated the primer to reflect this.
Jund, Junk, Affinity, Mono R Burn, Souls Sisters, Abzan Company, and CoCo elves. But there were a few people I never got to play so no idea what they are running.
My plan was to definitely pickup IoK and possibly thoughtseize as well. I want to run Sculler but the more I look at it the less useful it seems to be.
4 Lingering Souls
4 Spectral Procession
4 Raise the Alarm
2 Timely Reinforcements
Discard 8
4 Inquisition of Kozilek
4 Thoughtseize
Removal 6
4 Path to Exile
1 Dismember
1 Murderous cut
4 Intangible Virtue
2 Zealous Persecution
Planeswalker 3
3 Sorin, Solemn Visitor
Land 23
4 Plains
4 Godless Shrine
4 Windswept Heath
4 Caves of Koilos
2 Isolated Chapel
2 Windbrisk Heights
1 Shambling vent
1 Vault of the archangel
1 Swamp
In my experience 6-7 is ideal. 8 is overkill most of the time. If you really want access to them because they are so killer in some particular match up you could always tuck the extras in the board.
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Timely main is only good in meta games needs it, I would move sideboard until you know. main. If they play zoo, goblins, burn, merfolk, elfs, or other creatures heavy then two main is fine. It's only see main board if creatures rush decks are seeing lot of play. If not odds are good it will only gain life if thst.
For me timely is only good behind dead card otherwise
That's just my opinion, cut is good you have fetch so can speed it up when you can use it, but for me. I find paying life is easier. It will always hit early, vs cut only sometimes, some games u need it early.
agree, Murderous Cut is perfectly fine as a 1-of.
Add 4 Path to Exile and 1-2x Dismember, dependent on your number of Zealous Persecution.
Green @ it's best
It's clunky though if it sticks in your hand.
Secure the Wastes is easier to cast, but only strictly better with a Hymn or 2.
Also the Walkers gives the deck plenty of reach Lategame.
Anyways, here is what i'm running:
4 Windswept Heath
3 Godless Shrine
2 Isolated Chapel
4 Shambling Vent
2 Swamp
5 Plains
24 Lands
3 Thoughtseize
4 Path to Exile
2 Zealous Persecution
2 Dismember
15 Disruption & Removal
4 Raise the Alarm
4 Lingering Souls
4 spectral Procession
12 Token Maker
2 Sorin, Solemn Visitor
1 Gideon, Ally of Zendikar
1 elspeth, Knight-Errant
1 Honor of the pure
9 Hymns and Walkers
Elspeth is a bit weak, think of cutting here for a third Sorin or 2nd Gideon.
Maybe i'll tick up Honor of the Pure, because it buffs Shambling Vent - which is then out of Lightning Bolt-RAnge (her biggest weakness).
If Auriok Champion is dropping in price i assume to tick up Honor more. From this point Wall of Omens, Liliana of the Veil and even Ob Nixilis Reignited could handily ship me into more midrangey Waters
Green @ it's best
Lifegain helps. I'm playing 2 Timely Reinforcements main and one more in the sideboard. If your meta is heavy on burn and zoo, I'd recommend Auriok Champion (a little pricey unfortunately). I tried both Hour of reckoning and wrath of god and found them to be too slow most of the time. Don't run too many lands that enter the battlefield tapped (max 3 between Shambling Vent and windbrisk heights). Depending on your meta, play some specific hate in the sideboard (engineered explosives is nice vs. merfolk for example).
Edit: Didn't see you're running the primer