You would probably have to wait until prices die down a little after Modern Season and Infect players using only that season are more willing to sell. In the case of Ebay, it probably doesn't make much of a difference, outside of making an offer to the seller.
I know that I personally wouldn't have the patience to wait , so I know what I'd do. But the penny pincher would wait for the opportune time. Many will tell you that the differences are too small to matter much, but I also understand the principle of paying $3-5 more per card, even if the actual cost is not a big deal to me.
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Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander - Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build) (dead format for me)
Liliana, the last hope is spiking because of standard results. Now I have to wait atleast 2 months the 2 more I need at a reasonable price.
Here's to another season of "entire Magic community underestimates Planeswalker during spoilers, wallets scream in agony as prices double within a week."
I knew that she was very good (look at the spoiler thread) I just didn't have the monies at the time sadly
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Liliana, the last hope is good but not $40-50 dollars good. She is seeing play in standard but she is far from a lockdown Planeswalker, ob nixilis reignited has been more of a lock down planeswalker in standard and he isn't even $10 Dollars.
Liliana, the last hope is good but not $40-50 dollars good. She is seeing play in standard but she is far from a lockdown Planeswalker, ob has been more of a lock down planeswalker in standard and he isn't even $10 Dollars.
Ob also costs 3BB and not 1BB. 3 and 5 mana are worlds apart. Plus, whether or not she sustains her prices has less to do with her individual power and more to do with the overall power of the decks she's played in. If the format remains nothing but GW/Bant mirrors, she will fall hard. The PT will help decide her fate.
On a completely unrelated topic, I have taken it upon myself to spec/collect a bunch of the double-sided foil zombie tokens. Between trading at prerelease and using them as filler to get to the $25 mark on TCG Player Direct orders, I've got 15 of them so far. No idea what kind of long time value they will hold, but I think they are fantastic and a relatively small investment. I also love using them for Commander, as just about all my decks make zombies in one form or another, especially the Sidisi, Brood Tyrant I am currently building.
In any case I'm hoping Liliana, the last hope falls in price so I can build my standard G/B delirium deck. I've never liked price spiking from standard since it's almost too ephemeral to profit from and always ends up just making life a pain. Who is going to buy Liliana, the last hope when someone can get an Aether Vial or Sword of Fire and Ice for that price?
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
In any case I'm hoping Liliana, the last hope falls in price so I can build my standard G/B delirium deck. I've never liked price spiking from standard since it's almost too ephemeral to profit from and always ends up just making life a pain. Who is going to buy Liliana, the last hope when someone can get an Aether Vial or Sword of Fire and Ice for that price?
For real right, plus cards like Aether Vial are proven winners in modern. This happens with standard planeswalkers all the time remember Elspeth, Sun's Champion she hit $45 dollars at one point cost 6CMC to play. Look where she's at now about 6 dollars.
She probably wont fall that low given her low CMC and +1 make her reasonable in some shells. Her GY focused -2 might be problematic given moderns GY hate is pretty strong, though.
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
On a completely unrelated topic, I have taken it upon myself to spec/collect a bunch of the double-sided foil zombie tokens. Between trading at prerelease and using them as filler to get to the $25 mark on TCG Player Direct orders, I've got 15 of them so far. No idea what kind of long time value they will hold, but I think they are fantastic and a relatively small investment. I also love using them for Commander, as just about all my decks make zombies in one form or another, especially the Sidisi, Brood Tyrant I am currently building.
Very cool; glad I saw this post. I haven't been following standard/new sets and I had no idea these tokens were a thing; just picked up a few to sit on and a ton more to play with. Cheers
On a completely unrelated topic, I have taken it upon myself to spec/collect a bunch of the double-sided foil zombie tokens. Between trading at prerelease and using them as filler to get to the $25 mark on TCG Player Direct orders, I've got 15 of them so far. No idea what kind of long time value they will hold, but I think they are fantastic and a relatively small investment. I also love using them for Commander, as just about all my decks make zombies in one form or another, especially the Sidisi, Brood Tyrant I am currently building.
Very cool; glad I saw this post. I haven't been following standard/new sets and I had no idea these tokens were a thing; just picked up a few to sit on and a ton more to play with. Cheers
Yep - these tokens should be a pretty good pickup for long term holds. Zombies hold the highest casual appeal, and 2/2 zombies are what I would guess are the most used tokens in magic. I want to pick up a few for use with Kalitas in modern.
Thinking about buying into paper Modern (haven't played since 2013 on MTGO), but missing some key cards in the top decks - which cards are worth getting now, and which ones are overpriced? Thanks!
Thinking about buying into paper Modern (haven't played since 2013 on MTGO), but missing some key cards in the top decks - which cards are worth getting now, and which ones are overpriced? Thanks!
Personally, I'd hold off on Nahiri and Tarns unless you absolutely need them. Reasons being that Nahiri will theoretically drop around rotation and enemy fetches will most likely see a reprint at some point in time. However, if you're set on playing with a particular deck and either card is preventing you from doing so, then I'd buy what you need now. I'd also pick up Hierarch and Cryptic sooner than later since they've been creeping up since MM15 printing. I haven't been playing with or keeping tabs on the others, so my input wouldn't help much. Where are you finding your prices? You should still be able to look around and find Hierarchs under/around $40 fairly easy.
Liliana is going nuts at the moment. It just broke 40 dollars on TCG player and supposedly they are selling for 80 on the protour floor. Severely regretting not buying the playset earlier. /sigh
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Not sure about Nahiri dropping at rotation. I don't know much about standard but it seems she's mostly played in modern and a little bit in legacy. Her price doesn't seem to be driven by standard demand
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Liliana is going nuts at the moment. It just broke 40 dollars on TCG player and supposedly they are selling for 80 on the protour floor. Severely regretting not buying the playset earlier. /sigh
My friend said that Channelfireball was on GB Delirium, so it makes sense. Ishkanah, Lily, and Emrakul 2.0 are all probably seeing price bumps because of Standard.
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Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander - Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build) (dead format for me)
When is the time to pick up copies of the new Emrakul?
Probably now. He's down to about $12-13 and is one strong result away from spiking to $30+. Considering you will probably never run more than 1 in a deck, there's little harm in picking one up.
Yep, I nearly bought a foil one on Ebay yesterday for $30 and free shipping because I collect Emrakuls, it being my favorite creature in the game. I passed on it since I wasn't using it any time soon. I'm a bit sad, but I know I can get one much, much later when it goes down again. Here's to waiting another year...
His price is completely contingent on Standard though, as far as I know.
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Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/ Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander - Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build) (dead format for me)
I pre-ordered a playset of Liliana for $90; a playset of Emrakul for $66.
I should pre-order more
Were you speccing on Standard? I've tried to stop doing that for the most part since I have been spending way too much on Magic and want to move away from that. I wish I had bought those now.
The cards I would have specced on would have been Spirit stuff (Spell Queller, Mausoleum Wanderer, Selfless Spirit, etc.), so these recent spikes wouldn't have helped me anyway.
Legacy - Sneak Show, BR Reanimator, Miracles, UW Stoneblade
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/ Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander - Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build) (dead format for me)
I pre-ordered a playset of Liliana for $90; a playset of Emrakul for $66.
I should pre-order more
Were you speccing on Standard? I've tried to stop doing that for the most part since I have been spending way too much on Magic and want to move away from that. I wish I had bought those now.
The cards I would have specced on would have been Spirit stuff (Spell Queller, Mausoleum Wanderer, Selfless Spirit, etc.), so these recent spikes wouldn't have helped me anyway.
Eh, Queller has doubled his pre-release price (7.50 up to 15), so it wouldn't have been a bad pick.
I need a Liliana, and all of my friends were like "she's not great, she'll fall to around $15". Now she's $48. Grrrr.
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You don't call "dying to removal" if the removal is more expensive in resources than the creature. If you have to spend BG (Abrupt Decay), or W + basic land (PtE) to remove a 1G, that is not "dying to removal". Strictly speaking Goyf dies to removal, but actually your removal is dying to Goyf.
I pre-ordered a playset of Liliana for $90; a playset of Emrakul for $66.
I should pre-order more
Were you speccing on Standard? I've tried to stop doing that for the most part since I have been spending way too much on Magic and want to move away from that. I wish I had bought those now.
The cards I would have specced on would have been Spirit stuff (Spell Queller, Mausoleum Wanderer, Selfless Spirit, etc.), so these recent spikes wouldn't have helped me anyway.
Eh, Queller has doubled his pre-release price (7.50 up to 15), so it wouldn't have been a bad pick.
I need a Liliana, and all of my friends were like "she's not great, she'll fall to around $15". Now she's $48. Grrrr.
If you need to play her, you might as well buy her. I've ended up buying one at 25, one at 37, and now one at 45. I still need one more, but I'm holding to see where things blow over as three should be enough for my delirium deck anyway.
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
I pre-ordered a playset of Liliana for $90; a playset of Emrakul for $66.
I should pre-order more
Were you speccing on Standard? I've tried to stop doing that for the most part since I have been spending way too much on Magic and want to move away from that. I wish I had bought those now.
The cards I would have specced on would have been Spirit stuff (Spell Queller, Mausoleum Wanderer, Selfless Spirit, etc.), so these recent spikes wouldn't have helped me anyway.
I do the speculation based on both Standard and Modern, since I play both.
As you said, it cost me lots of $$
Personally I don't really spec since it's mostly just a way to make life miserable and ultimately put more money into the game because of impulse purchasing. The problem with Magic is that card prices some times double or triple out of literally no where due to buy outs from speculators, which make running a budget a living pain in the rear.
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
I try to pick a single card per set and buy about 100 of it. I've hit on Rabblemaster (bought at $1 each, sold at $16 each), JVP (bought at $10 each, sold at $80 each), and currently have 100 Liliana the Last Hope (bought at $25 each), which I'll hold if she stays or goes up and I'll unload about half if she starts to dip after this weekend. It's worth noting that the $100 I started with on Rabblemasters is what has enabled me to buy into the others.
I try to pick a single card per set and buy about 100 of it. I've hit on Rabblemaster (bought at $1 each, sold at $16 each), JVP (bought at $10 each, sold at $80 each), and currently have 100 Liliana the Last Hope (bought at $25 each), which I'll hold if she stays or goes up and I'll unload about half if she starts to dip after this weekend. It's worth noting that the $100 I started with on Rabblemasters is what has enabled me to buy into the others.
I need to talk to this guy.
People at my LGS look to me like I'm a prophet because I bought 80 play sets of Sword of the Meek, but that was my biggest hit in many years. I don't have the patience to do it with Standard anymore.
Legacy - Sneak Show, BR Reanimator, Miracles, UW Stoneblade
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/ Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander - Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build) (dead format for me)
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I know that I personally wouldn't have the patience to wait , so I know what I'd do. But the penny pincher would wait for the opportune time. Many will tell you that the differences are too small to matter much, but I also understand the principle of paying $3-5 more per card, even if the actual cost is not a big deal to me.
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/
Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)I knew that she was very good (look at the spoiler thread) I just didn't have the monies at the time sadly
Decks I'm playing in Modern right now:
URB Grixis Reveler (http://www.mtgvault.com/supast4r7/decks/modern-grixis-reveler/)
UB Faeries (http://www.mtgvault.com/supast4r7/decks/ub-fae-2/)
UW Azorious Control (http://www.mtgvault.com/supast4r7/decks/modern-ojutai-control-2/)
Ob also costs 3BB and not 1BB. 3 and 5 mana are worlds apart. Plus, whether or not she sustains her prices has less to do with her individual power and more to do with the overall power of the decks she's played in. If the format remains nothing but GW/Bant mirrors, she will fall hard. The PT will help decide her fate.
On a completely unrelated topic, I have taken it upon myself to spec/collect a bunch of the double-sided foil zombie tokens. Between trading at prerelease and using them as filler to get to the $25 mark on TCG Player Direct orders, I've got 15 of them so far. No idea what kind of long time value they will hold, but I think they are fantastic and a relatively small investment. I also love using them for Commander, as just about all my decks make zombies in one form or another, especially the Sidisi, Brood Tyrant I am currently building.
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
In any case I'm hoping Liliana, the last hope falls in price so I can build my standard G/B delirium deck. I've never liked price spiking from standard since it's almost too ephemeral to profit from and always ends up just making life a pain. Who is going to buy Liliana, the last hope when someone can get an Aether Vial or Sword of Fire and Ice for that price?
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Very cool; glad I saw this post. I haven't been following standard/new sets and I had no idea these tokens were a thing; just picked up a few to sit on and a ton more to play with. Cheers
Link to Discord server where anybody from MTGS can keep up with thread topics while everything is being sorted out with the new site.
Yep - these tokens should be a pretty good pickup for long term holds. Zombies hold the highest casual appeal, and 2/2 zombies are what I would guess are the most used tokens in magic. I want to pick up a few for use with Kalitas in modern.
Arcbound Ravager ~$40
Glimmervoid ~$30
Noble Hierarch ~$50
Snapcaster Mage ~$50
Nahiri, the Harbinger ~$25
Cryptic Command ~$25
Vendilion Clique ~$35
Scalding Tarn ~$80
Personally, I'd hold off on Nahiri and Tarns unless you absolutely need them. Reasons being that Nahiri will theoretically drop around rotation and enemy fetches will most likely see a reprint at some point in time. However, if you're set on playing with a particular deck and either card is preventing you from doing so, then I'd buy what you need now. I'd also pick up Hierarch and Cryptic sooner than later since they've been creeping up since MM15 printing. I haven't been playing with or keeping tabs on the others, so my input wouldn't help much. Where are you finding your prices? You should still be able to look around and find Hierarchs under/around $40 fairly easy.
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RGTron
UGInfect
URStorm
WUBRAd Nauseam
BRGrishoalbrand
URGScapeshift
WBGAbzan Company
WUBRGAmulet Titan
BRGLiving End
WGBogles
Liliana is going nuts at the moment. It just broke 40 dollars on TCG player and supposedly they are selling for 80 on the protour floor. Severely regretting not buying the playset earlier. /sigh
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Currently Playing:
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Legacy: Grixis Delver, Sneak and Show
Duel Commander: Kess High Tide
Vintage Big blue(MTGO)
My friend said that Channelfireball was on GB Delirium, so it makes sense. Ishkanah, Lily, and Emrakul 2.0 are all probably seeing price bumps because of Standard.
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/
Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)Called it!
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/price/Eldritch Moon/Emrakul the Promised End#paper
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
His price is completely contingent on Standard though, as far as I know.
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/
Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)I should pre-order more
Anything, but nothing at the moment...
Modern:
WUBRGAmulet Titan, WUBRGHuman
WUBRAd Nauseam, WBRGDeath Shadow, UBRGScapeshift, UBRGDredge
WURJeskai Nahiri, WURCheeri0s, WBGCounter Company, WRGBurn, UBRMadcap Moon, BRGJund Midrange
UBTurn,BRGriselbrand Reanimator, WGKnight Company, RGRG Tron, RGRG Ponza, XAffinity, XEldrazi Tron
Were you speccing on Standard? I've tried to stop doing that for the most part since I have been spending way too much on Magic and want to move away from that. I wish I had bought those now.
The cards I would have specced on would have been Spirit stuff (Spell Queller, Mausoleum Wanderer, Selfless Spirit, etc.), so these recent spikes wouldn't have helped me anyway.
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/
Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)Eh, Queller has doubled his pre-release price (7.50 up to 15), so it wouldn't have been a bad pick.
I need a Liliana, and all of my friends were like "she's not great, she'll fall to around $15". Now she's $48. Grrrr.
"I hope to have such a death... lying in triumph atop the broken bodies of those who slew me..."
If you need to play her, you might as well buy her. I've ended up buying one at 25, one at 37, and now one at 45. I still need one more, but I'm holding to see where things blow over as three should be enough for my delirium deck anyway.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
I do the speculation based on both Standard and Modern, since I play both.
As you said, it cost me lots of $$
Anything, but nothing at the moment...
Modern:
WUBRGAmulet Titan, WUBRGHuman
WUBRAd Nauseam, WBRGDeath Shadow, UBRGScapeshift, UBRGDredge
WURJeskai Nahiri, WURCheeri0s, WBGCounter Company, WRGBurn, UBRMadcap Moon, BRGJund Midrange
UBTurn,BRGriselbrand Reanimator, WGKnight Company, RGRG Tron, RGRG Ponza, XAffinity, XEldrazi Tron
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Standard: lol no
Modern: BG/x, UR/x, Burn, Merfolk, Zoo, Storm
Legacy: Shardless BUG, Delver (BUG, RUG, Grixis), Landstill, Depths Combo, Merfolk
Vintage: Dark Times, BUG Fish, Merfolk
EDH: Teysa, Orzhov Scion / Krenko, Mob Boss / Stonebrow, Krosan Hero
I need to talk to this guy.
People at my LGS look to me like I'm a prophet because I bought 80 play sets of Sword of the Meek, but that was my biggest hit in many years. I don't have the patience to do it with Standard anymore.
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/
Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)