What I really wanted to say, is that the leylines don't really solve the problem of staples being unobtainable.
They don't solve the problem, but they are a really good sign. if every expensive and scarce non-RL staple is reprinted in Standard at Rare, problem solved. how to fix it has never been a mystery, now it looks like Wizards might actually be doing it
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When would be the best time to pickup a play set of Urza?
You can probably wait. The prices seem to be dropping slowly, as Wren and Six accelerates to the most pricey card in the set at $50. (Well, it's been that way for a week now, but the gap is growing...)
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Legacy - Sneak Show, BR Reanimator, Miracles, UW Stoneblade
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/ Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander - Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build) (dead format for me)
2x foil Wrenns for 90 a piece, 2x non foil for low 20's, 2x foil Plague Engineers for 6 a piece, 2x Collector Ouphe foils for 14 a piece, 4x Seasoned Pyromancer for 45 a piece.
i made out alright with Aria of Flame. once i saw it showing up in main/sideboards in storm and a few phoenix decks i picked up 20 copies at around $0.50 each, kept 3 for myself, and buylisted the rest for $5/per cash.
the market for mh1 is looking to be quite volatile since the set, its timing and nature, are unprecedented. even print to demand sets have their limits for how much will hit the market (as implied by the 'to-demand'). as mentioned above m20 looks to be quite a sweet looking core set, and with standard popping-off as it has been stores wont be as inclined to go as deep on mh1 boxes; even WAR box/packs are in still in heavy demand and stores only have so big of a budget. the sense im getting from the set (mh1) is that people want the cards but no one wants to purchase/open the product at its price point.
if you are into buying boxes id also keep an eye out for mh1 boxes to dip in the coming weeks. its not implausible that stores that went in too deep on the set will want to offload product at little to no profit (or even a small loss) just to recoup that capital to spend elsewhere.
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Considering moving a large chunk of modern staples (lotv, snaps, fetches, shocks etc.) what do you think would be the best way to offload?
I'm looking for cash, no store credit or trades. I'm just at a point with my collection that stuff like MH1 is making it too expensive to keep up. I also can't really justify having this much money in cardboard I don't even play at my LGS because I always default to the same few decks.
Most everything is playsets. I also have quite a few older things hat have spiked in the last couple years (not reserved list) that I want to move.
I was planning on talking to LGS and players I know first, but I'm at a loss after that. I think the volume of cards is going to cause a big retailer like star city games to fight me in a lot of the grading.
Considering moving a large chunk of modern staples (lotv, snaps, fetches, shocks etc.) what do you think would be the best way to offload?
I'm looking for cash, no store credit or trades. I'm just at a point with my collection that stuff like MH1 is making it too expensive to keep up. I also can't really justify having this much money in cardboard I don't even play at my LGS because I always default to the same few decks.
Most everything is playsets. I also have quite a few older things hat have spiked in the last couple years (not reserved list) that I want to move.
I was planning on talking to LGS and players I know first, but I'm at a loss after that. I think the volume of cards is going to cause a big retailer like star city games to fight me in a lot of the grading.
If you don't plan on selling individually, your best bet is to buylist them. And yes, they may fight you on condition, but if they do, say "please send those back to me" and sell them individually then. There is really no easy way to sell lots of cards without either losing lots of value or losing lots of time.
Considering moving a large chunk of modern staples (lotv, snaps, fetches, shocks etc.) what do you think would be the best way to offload?
I'm looking for cash, no store credit or trades. I'm just at a point with my collection that stuff like MH1 is making it too expensive to keep up. I also can't really justify having this much money in cardboard I don't even play at my LGS because I always default to the same few decks.
Most everything is playsets. I also have quite a few older things hat have spiked in the last couple years (not reserved list) that I want to move.
I was planning on talking to LGS and players I know first, but I'm at a loss after that. I think the volume of cards is going to cause a big retailer like star city games to fight me in a lot of the grading.
it depends on how much patience you have, or in other words how much time and effort you are willing to put in; since that usually translates to something closer to market value. temper your expectations for how much you will get for each card; as you will almost assuredly get less than tcg market price/mid even before factoring in shipping and whatnot.
selling on tcgplayer or ebay takes a bit of time to set up and get going (getting rep/good reviews), but if/when you are established it isnt that much of a hassle to maintain. each service will subtract around 12% in fees, so keep that in mind. tcgplayer is a little better about protecting sellers, and also act as a middleman holding funds during transactions. however for either note that there is some inherent risk involved by being scammed. for this reason anything under like 15-20 bucks might not be worth the time/effort (selling in sets is an option on ebay) since you wanna be shipping stuff with tracking (usps first-class packages using paypal, which is a bit cheaper than at the post-office, is what id recommend). bubble mailer w/ cards sleeved in a toploader is the norm. that said stuff in 5 dollar range can be shipped in a plain-white-envelope with a toploader using a regular stamp; but again keep in mind you basically dont get to contest someone saying they did not receive the cards (personally ive never run into any issues, but ymmv).
selling to local stores (for cash) is the most convenient option, but they typically low-ball you because they know this (not to mention they need to make a profit of their own to cover higher costs of maintaining a brick-and-mortar store). listing on local marketplace sites like craigslist is alright, but it usually means traveling around a bit to meet up with buyers (unless you are cool with giving out your home address). selling around TCG-low will probably get a few bites with time. of course safeguard yourself by taking cash only and never ship cards.
ive heard facebook groups are a pretty good option because you can cut out the middleman and mostly avoid fees (like from ebay or tcg). from what i understand stuff around 10% below tcglow will get picked up relatively quickly. there is a little less anonymity so its a bit easier to tell if someone is legit. high dollar stuff usually will have people asking for references, but it doesnt look like you are selling stuff like that. make sure to use paypal and sell under Goods and Services which, while including the fees, gives both the buyer and seller some protection.
lastly there is buylisting to big dealers online such as CK, SCG, CFB, TCG, etc. shop around on these sites to see who is offering the best cash deals (card kingdom typically offers the best rates from my experience. ive used all the listed above at least once, and from my experience CK and SCG are relatively strict but fair in their grading. cant say much about CFB but i havent heard the best about their customer service, and TCG can be sort of random (especially for foils). do the research on each's grading guidelines and percentage scale. also be realistic in the grading of your own cards, we as card owners tend to evaluate our own cards loosely but expect the highest standards when buying; those two things obviously dont align. sites typically offer some mixture of paypal payments, mailing checks, or in the case of TCG direct bank deposits. turaround for mailing cards off and having money in hand is around 1-2 weeks depending on where you are in the US and how busy they are.
Was checking out prices today and noticed that Baneslayer Angel has risen in price a bit. Was only 8-9 last year, now she's at the 15-16 range. what could have caused this? A comparable card Lyra Dawnbringer is still at 8-9$ each.
Was checking out prices today and noticed that Baneslayer Angel has risen in price a bit. Was only 8-9 last year, now she's at the 15-16 range. what could have caused this? A comparable card Lyra Dawnbringer is still at 8-9$ each.
I believe it's seeing some play on the board of UW control decks side by side with Lyra, usually one copy each and the protection is not that bad too, also she's not Legendary as Lyra.
yeah lyra and baneslayer are often paired up, but both showing up in sideboards has been less frequent as of late. i personally also benched baneslayer and put resto angel in its place and it has been surprisingly effective.
thats not to say the card is obsolete or anything so anyone who bought baneslayers are likely to hold onto the card as its still a solid option to play if the meta permits. so id chalk any price increase to the total supply out there just shrinking naturally.
i love me some baneslayer though. i do want to pick up an m10 foil at some point cause the art is awesome, but damn is my wallet tired from buying all the crap i needed from WAR and MH1 to update my decks.
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yeah lyra and baneslayer are often paired up, but both showing up in sideboards has been less frequent as of late. i personally also benched baneslayer and put resto angel in its place and it has been surprisingly effective.
thats not to say the card is obsolete or anything so anyone who bought baneslayers are likely to hold onto the card as its still a solid option to play if the meta permits. so id chalk any price increase to the total supply out there just shrinking naturally.
i love me some baneslayer though. i do want to pick up an m10 foil at some point cause the art is awesome, but damn is my wallet tired from buying all the crap i needed from WAR and MH1 to update my decks.
Same. I've wanted a foil Baneslayer Angel ever since I saw someone sell 4 to a vendor for $100 each just for the vendor to flip them for $150 to an unknown dude. (during Standard obv.)
Iconic card - almost pulled the trigger years ago when my friend pulled one in a Walmart pack that his girlfriend bought for him (can't search packs for foils at Walmart). I just can't justify $28 for a card I "like," but won't play. Maybe some time...
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Legacy - Sneak Show, BR Reanimator, Miracles, UW Stoneblade
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/ Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander - Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build) (dead format for me)
yeah, on her first print into standard.. Baneslayer took a lot money from people years ago. Only on the printing of the 6 cmc titans did she start to calm down.
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On another thing. Checked today. Prismatic Vista still rather expensive at 25-27$.
Not many modern decks are using it, so I'm wondering why the price is still so high?
yeah, on her first print into standard.. Baneslayer took a lot money from people years ago. Only on the printing of the 6 cmc titans did she start to calm down.
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On another thing. Checked today. Prismatic Vista still rather expensive at 25-27$.
Not many modern decks are using it, so I'm wondering why the price is still so high?
Legacy, the UW miracles and blade decks run vista as the fetch of choice after Flooded Strand. These are the main culprits as they tend to run 6-8 basics.
Guys please opinions on japanese cards. Lost a 3/3 creature against Japan celestial colonade. This guy played all creatures and spells in english cards, but some cards in his manabase was japanese. I dont registrated this really ( my brain say its all fine and all english to me lets attack his empty board)...and i am sure it is a Kind of legal cheating. It is not ok, but i know legal. I Hate such people. I never forget colonade normally, but with this Tricks it can happen one time in 3 years and such people take advantage of this
If I am a customer spending premium amount of dollars, I expect a premium service. Jund falls into the category of a premium deck costing more dollars than a majority of the rest of the format. I'm not getting the desired performance ratio per dollars spent out of the Jund deck because WOTC decided to make the format more diverse.
Thanks for the info. Coincidentally, I also planned to use the vista for the UW deck on my sig.. planning to add two, because it can fetch the two basic island on the deck. Guess I have to wait for for the price to go down a bit.
Some hype around Esper Mentor with Unearth, and as a Sideboard plan in UW Control. It was always a card waiting for a shell, and if it actually takes off in Modern, its going to jump even harder.
Some hype around Esper Mentor with Unearth, and as a Sideboard plan in UW Control. It was always a card waiting for a shell, and if it actually takes off in Modern, its going to jump even harder.
I picked up a playset as soon as Force of Negation was spoiled. Glad I did, even if it has only been mediocre for me personally. Only time it shined was out of sideboard of Jeskai Phoenix. I could see it in UW though.
Some hype around Esper Mentor with Unearth, and as a Sideboard plan in UW Control. It was always a card waiting for a shell, and if it actually takes off in Modern, its going to jump even harder.
I picked up a playset as soon as Force of Negation was spoiled. Glad I did, even if it has only been mediocre for me personally. Only time it shined was out of sideboard of Jeskai Phoenix. I could see it in UW though.
Yeah, the lack of free counters is always what held it back. I've had a playset for ages just waiting.
Some hype around Esper Mentor with Unearth, and as a Sideboard plan in UW Control. It was always a card waiting for a shell, and if it actually takes off in Modern, its going to jump even harder.
I picked up a playset as soon as Force of Negation was spoiled. Glad I did, even if it has only been mediocre for me personally. Only time it shined was out of sideboard of Jeskai Phoenix. I could see it in UW though.
Yeah, the lack of free counters is always what held it back. I've had a playset for ages just waiting.
I've started to realize that spending money chasing the hype cards is a bad plan in general. Watched a seminar on hook, habit, hobby marketing strategies and realized that most of this is psychological manipulation.
The big problem is the company went full EA on the community post modern masters 2 and decided they can create artificially high prices by setting a high box price, and now they are going into making special mythic edition super limited print run boxes. I'm genuinely afraid of where the game is going.
They even introduced an arena season pass now to get the hooks in deeper on arena.
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
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They don't solve the problem, but they are a really good sign. if every expensive and scarce non-RL staple is reprinted in Standard at Rare, problem solved. how to fix it has never been a mystery, now it looks like Wizards might actually be doing it
You can probably wait. The prices seem to be dropping slowly, as Wren and Six accelerates to the most pricey card in the set at $50. (Well, it's been that way for a week now, but the gap is growing...)
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/
Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)2x foil Wrenns for 90 a piece, 2x non foil for low 20's, 2x foil Plague Engineers for 6 a piece, 2x Collector Ouphe foils for 14 a piece, 4x Seasoned Pyromancer for 45 a piece.
as for mh1 cards if anyone might see themselves wanting any of the cards such as ranger captain of eos, seasoned pyromancer, hexdrinker, giver of runes, goblin engineer, unsettled mariner, force of negation + other forces, etc. you are probably better served just biting the bullet and picking them up now.
the market for mh1 is looking to be quite volatile since the set, its timing and nature, are unprecedented. even print to demand sets have their limits for how much will hit the market (as implied by the 'to-demand'). as mentioned above m20 looks to be quite a sweet looking core set, and with standard popping-off as it has been stores wont be as inclined to go as deep on mh1 boxes; even WAR box/packs are in still in heavy demand and stores only have so big of a budget. the sense im getting from the set (mh1) is that people want the cards but no one wants to purchase/open the product at its price point.
if you are into buying boxes id also keep an eye out for mh1 boxes to dip in the coming weeks. its not implausible that stores that went in too deep on the set will want to offload product at little to no profit (or even a small loss) just to recoup that capital to spend elsewhere.
UWGSnow-Bant Control
BURGrixis Death's Shadow
GWBCoCo Elves
WCDeath and Taxes(sold)I'm looking for cash, no store credit or trades. I'm just at a point with my collection that stuff like MH1 is making it too expensive to keep up. I also can't really justify having this much money in cardboard I don't even play at my LGS because I always default to the same few decks.
Most everything is playsets. I also have quite a few older things hat have spiked in the last couple years (not reserved list) that I want to move.
I was planning on talking to LGS and players I know first, but I'm at a loss after that. I think the volume of cards is going to cause a big retailer like star city games to fight me in a lot of the grading.
If you don't plan on selling individually, your best bet is to buylist them. And yes, they may fight you on condition, but if they do, say "please send those back to me" and sell them individually then. There is really no easy way to sell lots of cards without either losing lots of value or losing lots of time.
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
selling on tcgplayer or ebay takes a bit of time to set up and get going (getting rep/good reviews), but if/when you are established it isnt that much of a hassle to maintain. each service will subtract around 12% in fees, so keep that in mind. tcgplayer is a little better about protecting sellers, and also act as a middleman holding funds during transactions. however for either note that there is some inherent risk involved by being scammed. for this reason anything under like 15-20 bucks might not be worth the time/effort (selling in sets is an option on ebay) since you wanna be shipping stuff with tracking (usps first-class packages using paypal, which is a bit cheaper than at the post-office, is what id recommend). bubble mailer w/ cards sleeved in a toploader is the norm. that said stuff in 5 dollar range can be shipped in a plain-white-envelope with a toploader using a regular stamp; but again keep in mind you basically dont get to contest someone saying they did not receive the cards (personally ive never run into any issues, but ymmv).
selling to local stores (for cash) is the most convenient option, but they typically low-ball you because they know this (not to mention they need to make a profit of their own to cover higher costs of maintaining a brick-and-mortar store). listing on local marketplace sites like craigslist is alright, but it usually means traveling around a bit to meet up with buyers (unless you are cool with giving out your home address). selling around TCG-low will probably get a few bites with time. of course safeguard yourself by taking cash only and never ship cards.
ive heard facebook groups are a pretty good option because you can cut out the middleman and mostly avoid fees (like from ebay or tcg). from what i understand stuff around 10% below tcglow will get picked up relatively quickly. there is a little less anonymity so its a bit easier to tell if someone is legit. high dollar stuff usually will have people asking for references, but it doesnt look like you are selling stuff like that. make sure to use paypal and sell under Goods and Services which, while including the fees, gives both the buyer and seller some protection.
lastly there is buylisting to big dealers online such as CK, SCG, CFB, TCG, etc. shop around on these sites to see who is offering the best cash deals (card kingdom typically offers the best rates from my experience. ive used all the listed above at least once, and from my experience CK and SCG are relatively strict but fair in their grading. cant say much about CFB but i havent heard the best about their customer service, and TCG can be sort of random (especially for foils). do the research on each's grading guidelines and percentage scale. also be realistic in the grading of your own cards, we as card owners tend to evaluate our own cards loosely but expect the highest standards when buying; those two things obviously dont align. sites typically offer some mixture of paypal payments, mailing checks, or in the case of TCG direct bank deposits. turaround for mailing cards off and having money in hand is around 1-2 weeks depending on where you are in the US and how busy they are.
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GWBCoCo Elves
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I believe it's seeing some play on the board of UW control decks side by side with Lyra, usually one copy each and the protection is not that bad too, also she's not Legendary as Lyra.
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thats not to say the card is obsolete or anything so anyone who bought baneslayers are likely to hold onto the card as its still a solid option to play if the meta permits. so id chalk any price increase to the total supply out there just shrinking naturally.
i love me some baneslayer though. i do want to pick up an m10 foil at some point cause the art is awesome, but damn is my wallet tired from buying all the crap i needed from WAR and MH1 to update my decks.
UWGSnow-Bant Control
BURGrixis Death's Shadow
GWBCoCo Elves
WCDeath and Taxes(sold)Same. I've wanted a foil Baneslayer Angel ever since I saw someone sell 4 to a vendor for $100 each just for the vendor to flip them for $150 to an unknown dude.
Iconic card - almost pulled the trigger years ago when my friend pulled one in a Walmart pack that his girlfriend bought for him (can't search packs for foils at Walmart). I just can't justify $28 for a card I "like," but won't play. Maybe some time...
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/
Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)___________________
On another thing. Checked today. Prismatic Vista still rather expensive at 25-27$.
Not many modern decks are using it, so I'm wondering why the price is still so high?
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Want to play a UW control deck in modern, but don't have jace or snaps?
Please come visit us at the Emeria Titan control thread
Legacy, the UW miracles and blade decks run vista as the fetch of choice after Flooded Strand. These are the main culprits as they tend to run 6-8 basics.
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Please come visit us at the Emeria Titan control thread
Spirits
I picked up a playset as soon as Force of Negation was spoiled. Glad I did, even if it has only been mediocre for me personally. Only time it shined was out of sideboard of Jeskai Phoenix. I could see it in UW though.
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
Yeah, the lack of free counters is always what held it back. I've had a playset for ages just waiting.
Spirits
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
The big problem is the company went full EA on the community post modern masters 2 and decided they can create artificially high prices by setting a high box price, and now they are going into making special mythic edition super limited print run boxes. I'm genuinely afraid of where the game is going.
They even introduced an arena season pass now to get the hooks in deeper on arena.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!