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My only concern BlueTronFTW, is that the set isnt opened enough because of Core 2020 getting fully spoiled NEXT WEEK.

I just worry its going to pull away from this set getting cracked as much as it would, keep the prices higher than anticipated.

If we hit $15 on Fiery Islet, I probably pull the trigger on a few at least.

Yeah I don't know if it's worth it for any more than that. With so many cantrips already, and taking a damage every time with no pain-free colorless option (like Shivan Reef), I can't really see me ever running more than 1 in any deck I play (if any).

Quote from idSurge »

My only concern BlueTronFTW, is that the set isnt opened enough because of Core 2020 getting fully spoiled NEXT WEEK.

I just worry its going to pull away from this set getting cracked as much as it would, keep the prices higher than anticipated.

If we hit $15 on Fiery Islet, I probably pull the trigger on a few at least.

Ultimately, most packs are opened as the result of drafts. The price point going up means fewer drafts will occur. I mean, I'm drafting the set tomorrow with friends, nobody is trying to earn a profit, but that's the exception. Stores are still charging $30 per draft in my area. Less drafting, fewer packs, less of that usual price drop over time.

I don't think the Canopies are wise investments. I think nothing is a good investment besides the RL. I do think these lands will go up over time, as every single time a new deck emerges in enemy colors, people will try to cram a few of these.

yeah, i'm not looking at them as investments, I just want to be wise economically, and I dont think they are $20 cards, but $10? I can see it. Now if they drop to $5? I'm getting a lot.

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Quote from idSurge »

My only concern BlueTronFTW, is that the set isnt opened enough because of Core 2020 getting fully spoiled NEXT WEEK.

I just worry its going to pull away from this set getting cracked as much as it would, keep the prices higher than anticipated.

If we hit $15 on Fiery Islet, I probably pull the trigger on a few at least.

Ultimately, most packs are opened as the result of drafts. The price point going up means fewer drafts will occur. I mean, I'm drafting the set tomorrow with friends, nobody is trying to earn a profit, but that's the exception. Stores are still charging $30 per draft in my area. Less drafting, fewer packs, less of that usual price drop over time.

I don't think the Canopies are wise investments. I think nothing is a good investment besides the RL. I do think these lands will go up over time, as every single time a new deck emerges in enemy colors, people will try to cram a few of these.

Canopy lands strike me as poor investments. Decks that want them, will likely want only 2 of them at the most. Also, with such generic names it's highly likely they wind up in a reprint at some point. I'm sure they'll appreciate over time, but there's better places to dump your money in cards and sit on them if that's what you're looking to do. On the other hand, since decks won't want too many of them, they should be easy to get.

What happened to Reshape? I don't remember it being above $7. It's $25 now.

ravenous trap is selling like hotcakes in our facebook group. I guess this panic buying is thanks to Hogaak.

People are buying it now for around 7$ each.

Quote from FoodChainGoblins »

What happened to Reshape? I don't remember it being above $7. It's $25 now.

Urza edh hype

And I literally have a big pile of reshapes from my wacky mirrodin standard days

Also Leyline of Sanctity was spoiled for Core, so I assume the entire cycle is coming.

That would be good, void's hit $70!

I've been watching Fiery Islet every day, it went down to 17.99, but the market is still hoping it kicks off, I dont see it and am holding on to buy any.

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What happened to Reshape? I don't remember it being above $7. It's $25 now.

Urza edh hype

Is it possible that it's from the Modern Urza deck? I know that deck hasn't been proven competitive. There was 1 in the top 8 of that 189 person Win a Mustang tournament in Alabama (Gamers and Geeks). Does THAT deck play Reshape? I guess I can look it up, lol.

There was a reddit thread a few days ago talking about it. Something about Reshape being similar to Whir but having a smaller supply so it was easier to buy out.

Is there truth in that? No idea. But if the road sign helps...

Quote from idSurge »

That would be good, void's hit $70!

I've been watching Fiery Islet every day, it went down to 17.99, but the market is still hoping it kicks off, I dont see it and am holding on to buy any.

I can tell you that my pre ordered box is still in the mail. I assume others may still be waiting for theirs as well. Market will see more of them soon enough.

Void has now been spoiled.

thank goodness. Void should at least go down a bit with a core set reprint.

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thank goodness. Void should at least go down a bit with a core set reprint.

I think its awesome!!

awesome reprint indeed.

from what I've heard, void is pre-ordering at 20$. Might go even lower when copies start to flood the market.

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awesome reprint indeed.

from what I've heard, void is pre-ordering at 20$. Might go even lower when copies start to flood the market.

Yes being a rare gives it a good chance of tanking... there is also the positive externality of leyline of sanctity

Wow, not even done with spoilers and this Core Set is already more interesting to me than MH1. Regarding horizon lands, I've been pulling the trigger on any I find under $10. Not looking to sit on any more than a playset each +/- 1-2 of certain ones for EDH, but IMO they're a steal under $10 and I'd rather over pay by a few bucks now rather than paying $20+ down the lines whenever I need them. I've been waiting for the other shoe to drop with MH1 regarding which cards emerge with sleeper value and despite a few gems like Hodaak, I'm still not seeing there being enough breakout cards to justify box prices while in-print. Therefore, I'm expecting short term set value will primarily depend on the lands, Urza, rare/mythic slivers, force, and the rest of the "money" cards people had identified as "good"/playable prior to release and I'm betting on (most of) the canopy lands adjusting to match the price/trend of Prismatic Vista. Using that same line of reasoning, I can see foil prices for aforementioned cards hitting absurd levels. I could be completely wrong and kicking myself in a month when Nurturing Peatlands are going for $10 a play set, but I think there will be a lot of sellers who look at Horizon Canopy and set an arbitrary floor price, choosing to just sit on them rather than throwing them up for < $8.

Also, just a hot tip for anyone feeling froggy and/or interested in playing Elemental tribal at some point in time: Pick up your Primal Beyonds before they spike. I started buying foils once Lightning Skelemental was spoiled, b/c I was legitimately interested in brewing some elemental tribal lists and I've been following its price since. IMO, it's primed for an outright buyout; one printing in Morningtide, < 100 copies available on TCGplayer, part of the same cycle as Aunties Hovel which spiked up to $30 w/in last few days, and this Core Set featuring an abnormally high number of elemental cards if not an actual set sub-theme. Currently non-foils are ~$5+ for LP+.

I feel terrible saying this but I'm kinda mad they reprinted leyline of sanctity, given that it was previously in a masters set. On the flip side, Leyline of the Void definitly needed a reprint.

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awesome reprint indeed.

from what I've heard, void is pre-ordering at 20$. Might go even lower when copies start to flood the market.

Yes being a rare gives it a good chance of tanking... there is also the positive externality of leyline of sanctity

just around 11$ for pre-order now at SCG, and probably even lower in other online stores. Will certainly get a playset, but have to wait for my July paycheck.

Quote from ed06288 »

I feel terrible saying this but I'm kinda mad they reprinted leyline of sanctity, given that it was previously in a masters set. On the flip side, Leyline of the Void definitly needed a reprint.

I hear ya. The cycle started with Core Sets (I assume so anyway, I know Sanctity was M11), so I can see why it's fitting to reprint them now in M20, especially when WoTC is trying to legitimize Core Sets as a whole following their hiatus. However, what kinda bugs me is how close these spoilers + set release are occurring on the heels of MH1. I don't know if WotC assumed there wouldn't be much overlap between players interested in either/or set, but Sanctity & Void are reason enough for any modern player to care about the set IMO. Like a few folks mentioned on the previous page, the close proximity of set releases and disproportionate cost:value ratio of MH1 (at the moment anyway) don't give me much optimism about the supply of MH1 singles continuing to enter the market.

The problem is that MH1 is taking the slot of the yearly supplemental product, which normally didn't have as much scrutiny placed on it as MH1 had. They always released a month-ish before the Spring set, people just cared about MH1 more than Battlebond.

As to the Leylines, Sanctity was first in a Core Set, but the actual first cycle was in Guildpact.

Mu Yanling, Sky Dancer currently has a pre-order price of 11$

Want to test one copy for my UW. Is 11$ reasonable price, or would the price drop after release?

Maybe 6, but 11 to expensive

yeah thanks, she might drop some more. As there are stronger U walkers in modern. The only thing I don't know about is if a Standard deck might want her.