I'm wishing Brightling would come to modern. Besides the art just looking insane, that card is deceptively good.
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3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Like counterspells? Or artifact destruction? Or hand disruption? All followed by the practically-colorless Surgical Extraction? Every color does already have a response to KCI. White has the best, because best-sideboard-answers is kind of White's thing in Modern right now.
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I want threahold in modern as a mechanic. People would have to choose between threshold threats and delve threats. They gave us Mystic Enforcer which is great but too slow for modern. Something like Nimble Mongoose or a function reprint. Cabal Ritual would be completely savage.
I kind of wish they'd print Goblin Ringleader in modern. Goblins need a card advantage engine badly.
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2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Interested to see what happens if undermine, absorb and recoil get reprinted, would they see play at all? lol
Bouncing permanents(mostly lands) doesn't happen now. When you start first and you recoil your opponent 1st land, the amount of salt farmed will be huge.
What I think are unobtrusive and have frequency-amplitude of thematic repetition, and not on the scale of "wow, that's just legacy.", that aren't preconstructed decks.
Obviously imposssible are:
Force of Will, Misdirection
Stifle
Force Spike
Daze
Foil
Thwart
Circular Logic, Forbid, Capsize
Priest of Titania (may as well just say Rofellos)
Accumulated Knowledge (may as well also say Intuition with it right?)
Dark Ritual, Cabal Therapy, Hymn to Tourach (hilarious)
Sylvan Library, this is just Necro (? how can this be suggested? May as well say Bazaar of Baghdad)
Wasteland
Rishadan Port
True-Name Nemesis (BARF)
Entomb, Recurring Nightmare, Survival of the Fittest (banned in Legacy! also others HAVE been suggested as jumpy on/off... like Black Vise=barf)
Goblin Welder, Daretti (hilarious)
Swords to Plowshares, Armageddon (may as well just say Balance)
Goblin Matron, Goblin Ringleader (Vial or this, just wins, may as well say lackey.)
Cursed Scroll (hilarious)
Price of Progress (LOL take 8, already you took 3, so, white loses out)
Back to Basics
Council's Judgment
Berserk
Snuff Out, Fireblast, Pyrokinesis, Sumberge, Ramosian Rally, Reverent Mantra
Winter Orb
Tectonic Break, Bend or Break
Bind (not here, it can't. Not as "only slot", compared to Squelch.. with Goyf)
Land Tax, Scroll Rack (draw that many cards and it's not just a Serum Powder?)
Psychatog, Upheaval (just no.)
Animate Dead, Exhume, Reanimate, Necromancy
Red Elemental Blast, Blue Elemental Blast, Pyroblast, Hydroblast
Ancient Tomb, City of Traitors, Crystal Vein
Smokestack
Standstill
Lotus Petal, Elvish Spirit Guide
Questionable: #1 card: Counterspell, #2 card Arcane Denial/Power Sink (theme!guess the card), #3 card Mishra's Factory...oh, kind of cool, yeah? except variance, except instantspeedsinkhole, yeah this card earns its spot. Fact or Fiction, Flametongue Kavu, Absorb + Undermine+ Recoil+Gerrard's Verdict+Temporal Spring(awfully good actually!)
Goblin Bombardment (is a full-combo insert due to Time Spiral, and might be even better things)
Putrid Imp, Carrion Feeder (is quite zombie-forced and stronger than just scry 1; they might literally just die after you rip their hand)
Innocent Blood, Diabolic Edict (on top of Fatal Push? You can already Cruel Edict. Card could arguably get its day... more like new card@pay4lifefor instant)
Control Magic
Buried Alive, Unearth, Dance of the Dead
Primal Order
Wild Growth, Argothian Enchantress, Enchantress's Presence (doesn't take much)
Astral Slide, Lightning Rift, Eternal Dragon (kind of a package deal)
Propaganda
Really questionable:
Exploration, Horn of Greed (bloom?type..deck)
Baleful Strix
Mother of Runes
Toxic Deluge
Veteran Explorer
Wall of Blossoms
Shardless Agent
Fire/Ice (this card is disgusting)
Ankh of Mishra (way pushy)
Vindicate (with Snapcaster Mage? SO filthy)
Cataclysm (close... maybe)
Sulfuric Vortex (you just die. Practically Cursed Scroll)
Pox (where's the barf bag?)
Moment's Peace, Nature's Lore, Constant Mists
Careful Study (reanimator was best deck in extended, red cannot be compared)
Enlightened Tutor (weakest... most answer/staxy oriented... but strongest too?)
Land Grant (Goblin Charbelcher still exists... may as well say Severance)
Tradewind Rider
Thawing Glaciers
Serendib Efreet, Serendib Djinn, Juzam Djinn, Maze of Ith (ummmm)
Riptide Laboratory
Imperial Recruiter (just bring back Twin...they never stop saying it)
Mox Diamond. Because how well-made is this one. This one is awesome. You can almost allow it.
Devastating Dreams
Cards almost impossible to put in the other categories:
Deep Analysis (draw 4... but cost 6 mana and 3 life... yeah. Just barely yeah, just barely no)
Ichorid (because poke the bear.)
Doomsday
Good ideas:
Rogue Elephant
Caller of the Claw
Pillage
Terravore
Prohibit (this is perfect); ask for this and ALSO get Memory Lapse at 1 more (Timeshifted near-miss)
Anurid Brushhopper
Meekstone (considering Ensnaring Bridge... could be fair. Was fair when you had to play 4x Disenchant 4x Shatter in the 75 to deal with Winter Orb etc.)
Gorilla Shaman
Cursed Totem
Containment Priest
Spore Frog
Impulse (just barely though)
Prophetic Bolt
Mana Flare (just barely though)
Hull Breach
Nimble Mongoose, Werebear, Basking Rootwalla, Arrogant Wurm
Divert
Silver Knight
Artifact Mutation
Chaos Warp (because Beast Within, it's only fair *thhhhhhhbt*)
Obsessive Search
Krosan Reclamation
Sylvan Safekeeper
Hollow Specter, Nether Spirit
Cabal Coffers (what cabal? Ahhhh... just local cabal. Local scab gangsters 301)
Ghastly Demise
Pernicious Deed (just barely though... big impact.)
Smoke
Tangle Wire (these counted effects like Ancient Hydra and you could respond and it wouldn't be insta-dead... space still exists.)
Shielded by Faith
Flickering Ward
Krosan Wayfarer
Tsabo's Web
Terrain Generator, Myriad Landscape, Petrified Field, Deserted Temple
Tangle
Unexpectedly Absent
Noetic Scales
Saprazzan Skerry, Remote Farm, etc.
Dack Fayden
Dismiss (oooh... what if it was White... and no other card was. That'd be another Spell Pierce maybe)
Stay classy. "What's up nerds". "We take exception to that."
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Decks I have in my bag of tricks- Needless to say, someone who wants to play will probably have a deck UB/x Faeries UR Storm XURWB Affinity G Elves UW control
Elvish Piper and Tooth And Nail are nearly the same thing. What's the problem? Progenitus turn two is not overpowered... Just use a counter spell or a board wipe. It is no more broken than a turn two win infect deck. Gah. Oh well. I guess getting a Blightsteel Colossus turn two to four is much more fair. Am I missing something here? Why does no one want this card? Genuinely confusing.
Elvish Piper and Tooth and Nail aren't even *remotely* close to the power of Natural Order. Elvish Piper is an awful creature that sees no play outside of edh for a reason. Tooth and Nail requires an entire deck to be built around it and at best you can entwine TN on turn 4. Natural Order can happen on turn 3 with regularity, and faster if people look to build around it more than just throwing it in a random elves/value shell. It would absolutely make elves a tier 1 deck and has the potential to cause even more degeneracy than that.
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Sylvan Safekeeper could lead to some interesting tech for things like Value Town.
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
"Well, then we will at least fight in the shadow"
"There is no glory to be gained in the kingdom of the dead!"
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
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Bouncing permanents(mostly lands) doesn't happen now. When you start first and you recoil your opponent 1st land, the amount of salt farmed will be huge.
Undermine and absorb may be possible
Chain Lightning - there's already a better card in the format, would improve fair Rx aggro
Astral Slide - Bant cycling control literally has everything else it needs
Pernicious Deed - give the BGx decks some love even though I hate them
Daze - much more fair a card when your dual land islands deal two damage or enter tapped
Pulverize - Great for aggro against artifacts.
Overburden - Fun against humans.
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Modern Decks:
UBG Lantern Control GBU
BRG Bridge-Vine GRB
Commander Decks
UBG Muldrotha, Value Elemental GBU
BRG Windgrace Real-Estate Ltd. GRB
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What I think are unobtrusive and have frequency-amplitude of thematic repetition, and not on the scale of "wow, that's just legacy.", that aren't preconstructed decks.
Obviously imposssible are:
Force of Will, Misdirection
Stifle
Force Spike
Daze
Foil
Thwart
Circular Logic, Forbid, Capsize
Priest of Titania (may as well just say Rofellos)
Accumulated Knowledge (may as well also say Intuition with it right?)
Dark Ritual, Cabal Therapy, Hymn to Tourach (hilarious)
Sylvan Library, this is just Necro (? how can this be suggested? May as well say Bazaar of Baghdad)
Wasteland
Rishadan Port
True-Name Nemesis (BARF)
Entomb, Recurring Nightmare, Survival of the Fittest (banned in Legacy! also others HAVE been suggested as jumpy on/off... like Black Vise=barf)
Goblin Welder, Daretti (hilarious)
Swords to Plowshares, Armageddon (may as well just say Balance)
Goblin Matron, Goblin Ringleader (Vial or this, just wins, may as well say lackey.)
Cursed Scroll (hilarious)
Price of Progress (LOL take 8, already you took 3, so, white loses out)
Back to Basics
Council's Judgment
Berserk
Snuff Out, Fireblast, Pyrokinesis, Sumberge, Ramosian Rally, Reverent Mantra
Winter Orb
Tectonic Break, Bend or Break
Bind (not here, it can't. Not as "only slot", compared to Squelch.. with Goyf)
Land Tax, Scroll Rack (draw that many cards and it's not just a Serum Powder?)
Psychatog, Upheaval (just no.)
Animate Dead, Exhume, Reanimate, Necromancy
Red Elemental Blast, Blue Elemental Blast, Pyroblast, Hydroblast
Ancient Tomb, City of Traitors, Crystal Vein
Smokestack
Standstill
Lotus Petal, Elvish Spirit Guide
Questionable: #1 card: Counterspell, #2 card Arcane Denial/Power Sink (theme!guess the card), #3 card Mishra's Factory...oh, kind of cool, yeah? except variance, except instantspeedsinkhole, yeah this card earns its spot. Fact or Fiction, Flametongue Kavu, Absorb + Undermine+ Recoil+Gerrard's Verdict+Temporal Spring(awfully good actually!)
Goblin Bombardment (is a full-combo insert due to Time Spiral, and might be even better things)
Putrid Imp, Carrion Feeder (is quite zombie-forced and stronger than just scry 1; they might literally just die after you rip their hand)
Innocent Blood, Diabolic Edict (on top of Fatal Push? You can already Cruel Edict. Card could arguably get its day... more like new card@pay4lifefor instant)
Control Magic
Buried Alive, Unearth, Dance of the Dead
Primal Order
Wild Growth, Argothian Enchantress, Enchantress's Presence (doesn't take much)
Astral Slide, Lightning Rift, Eternal Dragon (kind of a package deal)
Propaganda
Really questionable:
Exploration, Horn of Greed (bloom?type..deck)
Baleful Strix
Mother of Runes
Toxic Deluge
Veteran Explorer
Wall of Blossoms
Shardless Agent
Fire/Ice (this card is disgusting)
Ankh of Mishra (way pushy)
Vindicate (with Snapcaster Mage? SO filthy)
Cataclysm (close... maybe)
Sulfuric Vortex (you just die. Practically Cursed Scroll)
Pox (where's the barf bag?)
Moment's Peace, Nature's Lore, Constant Mists
Careful Study (reanimator was best deck in extended, red cannot be compared)
Enlightened Tutor (weakest... most answer/staxy oriented... but strongest too?)
Land Grant (Goblin Charbelcher still exists... may as well say Severance)
Tradewind Rider
Thawing Glaciers
Serendib Efreet, Serendib Djinn, Juzam Djinn, Maze of Ith (ummmm)
Riptide Laboratory
Imperial Recruiter (just bring back Twin...they never stop saying it)
Mox Diamond. Because how well-made is this one. This one is awesome. You can almost allow it.
Devastating Dreams
Cards almost impossible to put in the other categories:
Deep Analysis (draw 4... but cost 6 mana and 3 life... yeah. Just barely yeah, just barely no)
Ichorid (because poke the bear.)
Doomsday
Good ideas:
Rogue Elephant
Caller of the Claw
Pillage
Terravore
Prohibit (this is perfect); ask for this and ALSO get Memory Lapse at 1 more (Timeshifted near-miss)
Anurid Brushhopper
Meekstone (considering Ensnaring Bridge... could be fair. Was fair when you had to play 4x Disenchant 4x Shatter in the 75 to deal with Winter Orb etc.)
Gorilla Shaman
Cursed Totem
Containment Priest
Spore Frog
Impulse (just barely though)
Prophetic Bolt
Mana Flare (just barely though)
Hull Breach
Nimble Mongoose, Werebear, Basking Rootwalla, Arrogant Wurm
Divert
Silver Knight
Artifact Mutation
Chaos Warp (because Beast Within, it's only fair *thhhhhhhbt*)
Obsessive Search
Krosan Reclamation
Sylvan Safekeeper
Hollow Specter, Nether Spirit
Cabal Coffers (what cabal? Ahhhh... just local cabal. Local scab gangsters 301)
Ghastly Demise
Pernicious Deed (just barely though... big impact.)
Smoke
Tangle Wire (these counted effects like Ancient Hydra and you could respond and it wouldn't be insta-dead... space still exists.)
Shielded by Faith
Flickering Ward
Krosan Wayfarer
Tsabo's Web
Terrain Generator, Myriad Landscape, Petrified Field, Deserted Temple
Tangle
Unexpectedly Absent
Noetic Scales
Saprazzan Skerry, Remote Farm, etc.
Dack Fayden
Dismiss (oooh... what if it was White... and no other card was. That'd be another Spell Pierce maybe)
Stay classy. "What's up nerds". "We take exception to that."
And Terravore is long overdue for a reprint. It is the only vore in the Oddysey cycle that has not been reprinted anywhere.
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Birchlore Rangers would make Elves a stronger deck, but not too busted.
can we NOT please?
UB/x Faeries
UR Storm
XURWB Affinity
G Elves
UW control
Yeah, this one is gonna be a no from me dawg.
Elvish Piper and Tooth and Nail aren't even *remotely* close to the power of Natural Order. Elvish Piper is an awful creature that sees no play outside of edh for a reason. Tooth and Nail requires an entire deck to be built around it and at best you can entwine TN on turn 4. Natural Order can happen on turn 3 with regularity, and faster if people look to build around it more than just throwing it in a random elves/value shell. It would absolutely make elves a tier 1 deck and has the potential to cause even more degeneracy than that.