Just to clear up a mis-hap on Cockatrice, Terminus, does not work on Pregenitus because it clearly says "Protectiong from Everything" meaning everything in magic correct?
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Just to clear up a mis-hap on Cockatrice, Terminus, does not work on Pregenitus because it clearly says "Protectiong from Everything" meaning everything in magic correct?
Protection means a card can't be dealt damage, targeted, or blocked by a source of that kind. Terminus does none of these, thus it does hit Progenitus. Much like Wrath of God and Day of Judgement would. Global destruction effects like this still work.
However, casting five Pyroclasm wouldn't work because even though it's a global effect, it's attempting to deal damage, which protection prevents.
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so on a scale from 1-10 how tought is the meta with deathrite shaman? i suppose its really tought.
Wich is sad really.
I don't think Rock is all that common tbh
Furthermore, beast within or abrupt decay could be used in the SB. I've been liking beast within because it doubles (somewhat) as a krosan grip. I'll need to test more to see if having both beast within or grip is needed. Non-creature enchantment removal is needed due to leylines, rest in peace and humility.
I don't think Rock is all that common tbh
Furthermore, beast within or abrupt decay could be used in the SB. I've been liking beast within because it doubles (somewhat) as a krosan grip. I'll need to test more to see if having both beast within or grip is needed. Non-creature enchantment removal is needed due to leylines, rest in peace and humility.
You need to play more Legacy then. Or maybe any Legacy. Have you been to a tournament since DRS was printed? It's everywhere and it completely hoses this deck. I've tried brewing a kill without looping but I don't think it's possible. The_second_try's comment doesn't make any sense, as he says he isn't looping but he still needs to recur Hulk. Maybe he means not infinite looping? That doesn't matter though... we need a way without any looping. Which is rather sad as DRS will always be a legacy staple and I loved this deck.
The other problem that an active Deathrite Shaman poses is that it hoses using Academy Rector. If they exile the Rector with its ability on the stack, the intervening if clause will keep you from searching for an enchantment. This cuts off the Rector -> Pattern -> Hulk chain, leaving you with Natural Order or hardcasting. Rest in Peace poses a similar problem. At least there isn't a similar limitation on Hulk's ability.
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Mill 60 cards. Doesn't use the GY. Damn shame it takes up so many cards though. Although most decks use Dryad Arbors anyways. You could also just not kill them the turn you go off and drop a fetchland the next turn and kill them, although you are weak to sweepers. This is the only non-loop kill I know of.
Oh yea, forgot about those. 4 Desciple, 1 Image, 4 Marauder takes up 1 less slot than the Crab kill, though realistically you'll only need 4 Crab 1 Image 3 Arbor to win, if you make a land drop after, and it's harder to fight Stifle (with mill if something happens you can mill another 15 by dropping a land).
Ive always wondered about Hulk grabbing Explorers for some kind of ramp win.
I have an infinite life combo in sb that doesn't use the graveyard: disciple of griselbrand, daru spiritualist,nomads en-kor + tinder wall or wild cantor. Against deathrite shaman you can just side in abrupt decay or beast within....
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If wizards would print a green, black and white version of Hydroblast and Blue Elemental Blast Painter could be done in every color.
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Protection means a card can't be dealt damage, targeted, or blocked by a source of that kind. Terminus does none of these, thus it does hit Progenitus. Much like Wrath of God and Day of Judgement would. Global destruction effects like this still work.
However, casting five Pyroclasm wouldn't work because even though it's a global effect, it's attempting to deal damage, which protection prevents.
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I don't think Rock is all that common tbh
Furthermore, beast within or abrupt decay could be used in the SB. I've been liking beast within because it doubles (somewhat) as a krosan grip. I'll need to test more to see if having both beast within or grip is needed. Non-creature enchantment removal is needed due to leylines, rest in peace and humility.
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You need to play more Legacy then. Or maybe any Legacy. Have you been to a tournament since DRS was printed? It's everywhere and it completely hoses this deck. I've tried brewing a kill without looping but I don't think it's possible. The_second_try's comment doesn't make any sense, as he says he isn't looping but he still needs to recur Hulk. Maybe he means not infinite looping? That doesn't matter though... we need a way without any looping. Which is rather sad as DRS will always be a legacy staple and I loved this deck.
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Mill 60 cards. Doesn't use the GY. Damn shame it takes up so many cards though. Although most decks use Dryad Arbors anyways. You could also just not kill them the turn you go off and drop a fetchland the next turn and kill them, although you are weak to sweepers. This is the only non-loop kill I know of.
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Ive always wondered about Hulk grabbing Explorers for some kind of ramp win.
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Loam Depths
Goblin Stompy
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Pod Nic Fit
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Pattern Combo
Squirrel Stompy
Amulet of Vigor Combo
Restore Balance
Cascade Swans
Mono U Tron
Through the Breach
Elves
Mono Red Control
Tooth and Nail Tron
Leviathans
Krenko Combo
Jaya LD
Zirilan Dragons
Omnath