About 8 years ago, my binder and my box of Legacy staples and competitive decks were stolen.
At least I thought they were.
About a month ago, I stumbled upon a box buried way back in the closet, and lo and behold, when opening it up I found not only my old casual decks, but two of my competitive decks: UWr Landstill and MonoR Burn. My binder was still gone, but seeing the decks that I spent almost a year and a half putting together.
After nearly soiling my pants when I looked at the prices of dual lands now, I remembered this site and all the time I spent theory-crafting and developing the deck with the likes of rsaunder, Warden, and kevinliu in the old Landstill thread, under the name ".fortune". I'm looking at attending a monthly Knight-Ware tournament for old times sake, and saw that not only was Landstill no longer an "Established" deck, it wasn't even in "Developing".
What happened to Landstill? Around the time of my last posts, Miracles was but a radical new approach and wrinkle to add to the old 'Still lists, as we looked to catch up lists that got faster and faster. I remember that CB/Top + Miracles seemed to be the new direction that Landstill was heading in, and the old thread title changed to reflect that, but lists I've looked up pre-Top ban seem to seldomly run Standstill. Is the meta now so fast that the classic T2 Island --> Standstill --> "Go" just isn't enough? Or is there still room for a list that wants to keep a clean board and an answer for everything?
TL;DR - Want to get back into 1.5 after a 9 year hiatus; see thread title. Hello fellow Legacy fans.
Thanks for the response. Yea, the old Landstill thread turned into the old Miracles thread, which was archived. I was more curious about Landstill as an archetype not really showing up at high-level play in the numbers it used to.
I remember when I was active, a lot of LS pilots saw CB/Top as the more optimal way to dominate and choke the board, and a lot of pilots jumped ship there. The interaction of Top + Miracles was just too strong but it was often a supplement to the "Landstill" package of Standstill + manlands. I just didn't foresee almost a complete drop of Landstill as an archetype in the tournament scene and was curious why.
I'll probably be taken my old UWr list to the next Knightware in October, and just wanted to get an idea of where the meta was at.
Oh... dummy me. I completely misunderstood what you were saying.
Sorry. I didn't have an answer for you. I quit playing MTG before Odyssey was released and rejoined the game after the deck apparently lost favor. So I basically missed out on that entire meta shift.
Oh... dummy me. I completely misunderstood what you were saying.
Sorry. I didn't have an answer for you. I quit playing MTG before Odyssey was released and rejoined the game after the deck apparently lost favor. So I basically missed out on that entire meta shift.
Nah, you're good.
The deck definitely still sees occasional play according to tourney results I've found, just isn't as widespread as it used to be. Landstill lists from the past year also look wildly different than the ones we used to brew here, and I'd love to understand the reasoning behind some of those card selections.
Having lucked out and also found my playset of Tropical Islands and Misty Rainforests, I've also debated just going in on Bant and opting for a more midrange deck, but Landstill in Legacy is one of my true loves in MtG and I wanted to give the deck a few chances in tournament before exploring elsewhere.
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At least I thought they were.
About a month ago, I stumbled upon a box buried way back in the closet, and lo and behold, when opening it up I found not only my old casual decks, but two of my competitive decks: UWr Landstill and MonoR Burn. My binder was still gone, but seeing the decks that I spent almost a year and a half putting together.
After nearly soiling my pants when I looked at the prices of dual lands now, I remembered this site and all the time I spent theory-crafting and developing the deck with the likes of rsaunder, Warden, and kevinliu in the old Landstill thread, under the name ".fortune". I'm looking at attending a monthly Knight-Ware tournament for old times sake, and saw that not only was Landstill no longer an "Established" deck, it wasn't even in "Developing".
What happened to Landstill? Around the time of my last posts, Miracles was but a radical new approach and wrinkle to add to the old 'Still lists, as we looked to catch up lists that got faster and faster. I remember that CB/Top + Miracles seemed to be the new direction that Landstill was heading in, and the old thread title changed to reflect that, but lists I've looked up pre-Top ban seem to seldomly run Standstill. Is the meta now so fast that the classic T2 Island --> Standstill --> "Go" just isn't enough? Or is there still room for a list that wants to keep a clean board and an answer for everything?
TL;DR - Want to get back into 1.5 after a 9 year hiatus; see thread title. Hello fellow Legacy fans.
UWR Landstill
R Burn
Thanks for the response. Yea, the old Landstill thread turned into the old Miracles thread, which was archived. I was more curious about Landstill as an archetype not really showing up at high-level play in the numbers it used to.
I remember when I was active, a lot of LS pilots saw CB/Top as the more optimal way to dominate and choke the board, and a lot of pilots jumped ship there. The interaction of Top + Miracles was just too strong but it was often a supplement to the "Landstill" package of Standstill + manlands. I just didn't foresee almost a complete drop of Landstill as an archetype in the tournament scene and was curious why.
I'll probably be taken my old UWr list to the next Knightware in October, and just wanted to get an idea of where the meta was at.
UWR Landstill
R Burn
Sorry. I didn't have an answer for you. I quit playing MTG before Odyssey was released and rejoined the game after the deck apparently lost favor. So I basically missed out on that entire meta shift.
Nah, you're good.
The deck definitely still sees occasional play according to tourney results I've found, just isn't as widespread as it used to be. Landstill lists from the past year also look wildly different than the ones we used to brew here, and I'd love to understand the reasoning behind some of those card selections.
Having lucked out and also found my playset of Tropical Islands and Misty Rainforests, I've also debated just going in on Bant and opting for a more midrange deck, but Landstill in Legacy is one of my true loves in MtG and I wanted to give the deck a few chances in tournament before exploring elsewhere.
UWR Landstill
R Burn