This popped in my head as I just referenced contract from below in another post.
Say they were to reprint all of the old ante cards such that instead of ante they would function with the exile zone; ie contract would exile the top card, jeweled bird returns all exiled cards to the graveyard and goes to exile itself, etc.
Do you think any of these cards would see play (aside from contact from below)?
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Contract from Below would be instabanned, and very few of the other cards would function as intended. Aside from niche corner cases, who cares if I exile the top card of your library for 3 mana?
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Any more of this, and Team Troll will be more than just a name.
This popped in my head as I just referenced contract from below in another post.
Say they were to reprint all of the old ante cards such that instead of ante they would function with the exile zone; ie contract would exile the top card, jeweled bird returns all exiled cards to the graveyard and goes to exile itself, etc.
Do you think any of these cards would see play (aside from contact from below)?
Discuss
No, cause most would be broken and banned anyways, the rest would just basically move cards from one zone to another.
Something like jeweled bird seems like it could be interesting. With how wishes currently work there isn't that much interaction with the exiled zone. That could make jeweled bird almost a colourless wish.
As for contract I wanted that excluded from discussion. Even with ante as a draw back, recall can't even compete with 7 cards for B.
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Ante is a penalty added to obviously broken cards. You can't just replace it with something irrelevant like exile a card. You have to replace it with something equally as taxing.
Contract from below might be fair if your opponent can search your hand and library for like 10 cards and exile them all before you get to draw.
Ante is a penalty added to obviously broken cards. You can't just replace it with something irrelevant like exile a card. You have to replace it with something equally as taxing.
Contract from below might be fair if your opponent can search your hand and library for like 10 cards and exile them all before you get to draw.
I was thinking something like - "reveal the top seven cards of your library. Exile all cards revealed this way, then for each nonland permanent exiled this way search the rest of your library for each card with the same name as the exiled cards and exile them".
Something like jeweled bird seems like it could be interesting. With how wishes currently work there isn't that much interaction with the exiled zone. That could make jeweled bird almost a colourless wish.
As for contract I wanted that excluded from discussion. Even with ante as a draw back, recall can't even compete with 7 cards for B.
I like the original thinking, but I think if they wanted that effect it would be much better to make a similar card, I think the confusion would be greater than the benefit of maybe a fringe deck popping up. I would love if the made an homage to ante effect cards, They should but something in the next un set or time spiral 2 or something
I was thinking something like - "reveal the top seven cards of your library. Exile all cards revealed this way, then for each nonland permanent exiled this way search the rest of your library for each card with the same name as the exiled cards and exile them".
I cannot see this being played. Even if you got to draw seven after that effect, it is just too harsh an effect.
I think it is generally accepted that Contract From Below is the most broken card ever printed in this game and even without the ante, this card I truly believe would STILL be banned in Vintage.
I love broken Magic but this card is the poster child for broken Magic. It is simply unplayable without turning whatever format it's legal in into a "who draws their Contract first" race.
And Steve gets why it's the only card I think shouldn't be discussed. It's clearly broken. Strictly better the recall.
It's every other ante card I want to discuss, like rebirth
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I've always wanted to build a Tendrils deck with four Contracts to play against people who say that Recall is the best draw spell in the game.
Actually, I just want a Tendrils deck with 4 Contracts, period. It feels so, so good to play something that strong. It's like suddenly finding out you're a god and having a power trip.
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Slowly breaking.
Any more of this, and Team Troll will be more than just a name.
Actually, I just want a Tendrils deck with 4 Contracts, period. It feels so, so good to play something that strong. It's like suddenly finding out you're a god and having a power trip.
Adding this to my sig...
On topic, I dont think any of the other ante cards are playable under any circumstance. Maybe Bronze Tablet? I believe that everyone wants to cast contract at least once in their life though.
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I always loved the ante cards. I actually think another format should be created for the ante cards along with more ante cards being printed. Maybe we could call it TYPE 0 or TYPE A for ante. Print a few more ante cards and create the format with the Legacy or Vintage card pool and play by the original rules of magic.
BTW the first ante game I ever played i won against my friend.
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I have a question...why do ante cards have Oracle text and rulings? They aren't legal in any format, and nobody* plays them casually.
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Any more of this, and Team Troll will be more than just a name.
I have a question...why do ante cards have Oracle text and rulings? They aren't legal in any format, and nobody* plays them casually.
*Except that one guy that lives on that island in the middle of the Pacific and insists to all of his friends that 56 Swamp/4 Darkpact is still legal while giggling with a slightly insane look on his face.
Say they were to reprint all of the old ante cards such that instead of ante they would function with the exile zone; ie contract would exile the top card, jeweled bird returns all exiled cards to the graveyard and goes to exile itself, etc.
Do you think any of these cards would see play (aside from contact from below)?
Discuss
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Any more of this, and Team Troll will be more than just a name.
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No, cause most would be broken and banned anyways, the rest would just basically move cards from one zone to another.
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As for contract I wanted that excluded from discussion. Even with ante as a draw back, recall can't even compete with 7 cards for B.
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Contract from below might be fair if your opponent can search your hand and library for like 10 cards and exile them all before you get to draw.
I was thinking something like - "reveal the top seven cards of your library. Exile all cards revealed this way, then for each nonland permanent exiled this way search the rest of your library for each card with the same name as the exiled cards and exile them".
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I like the original thinking, but I think if they wanted that effect it would be much better to make a similar card, I think the confusion would be greater than the benefit of maybe a fringe deck popping up. I would love if the made an homage to ante effect cards, They should but something in the next un set or time spiral 2 or something
I cannot see this being played. Even if you got to draw seven after that effect, it is just too harsh an effect.
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I love broken Magic but this card is the poster child for broken Magic. It is simply unplayable without turning whatever format it's legal in into a "who draws their Contract first" race.
Let it stay dead and buried where it belongs.
It's every other ante card I want to discuss, like rebirth
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Actually, I just want a Tendrils deck with 4 Contracts, period. It feels so, so good to play something that strong. It's like suddenly finding out you're a god and having a power trip.
Any more of this, and Team Troll will be more than just a name.
I know where you post.
Biorhythm is kinda "fixed" rebirth
jeweled bird is just bad
Adding this to my sig...
On topic, I dont think any of the other ante cards are playable under any circumstance. Maybe Bronze Tablet? I believe that everyone wants to cast contract at least once in their life though.
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I always loved the ante cards. I actually think another format should be created for the ante cards along with more ante cards being printed. Maybe we could call it TYPE 0 or TYPE A for ante. Print a few more ante cards and create the format with the Legacy or Vintage card pool and play by the original rules of magic.
BTW the first ante game I ever played i won against my friend.
My ante: Deathgrip
My Friend's ante: Taiga
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*Except that one guy that lives on that island in the middle of the Pacific and insists to all of his friends that 56 Swamp/4 Darkpact is still legal while giggling with a slightly insane look on his face.
Any more of this, and Team Troll will be more than just a name.
I know where you post.
The same reason Un-cards have oracle text.
Also, this idea is actually terrible.
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