MTG Salvation

****** DENTATA!!! Tell me I'm not the only one who noticed.

Anyways, this is one of my PDH decks that I've been working with for several months and I just wanted to share it with everyone and maybe get some advice as to how I can make it better. The deck is very control oriented and wins by sitting behind tokens and then swinging and pumping the dudes who get through.

Here's the list by function:



Any suggestions or comments?

some card selection notes:

some cards I'm thinking of adding:

change log:

To be perfectly honest, I think the biggest problem with this deck is trying to run a token strategy without access to green. Having said that, I run a Vizkopa Guildmage deck so I hope I can contribute with something. A few things I find missing:

Crypt Rats. You run Pestilence, so why not? I'd also consider Evincar's Justice and Gangrenous Zombies. Sweepers are good for your strategy because you sac everything to pump what gets through and then you sweep with your champion left standing.

Liliana's Shade. Also, Kor Cartographer is definetely better than Noble Templar. I find plains-only competent land fetch to be a waste as I'd rather accumulate swamps for pestilence effects though. You probably want Bojuka Bog, Expedition Map and Nihil Spellbomb in there too.

Reliquary Monk: One of the best disenchant effects for your deck.

Remember the Fallen and Mine Excavation are other considerations for the recursion category. Phyrexian Ravager for more card draw.

If you're running Cloudshift, I'd definetely run Whitemane Lion too like you're considering (I ended up only running the Lion since it also protects against pestilence effects and comes with a surprise body). I wouldn't cut Hartebeest: Faith's Fetters, Cho Manno's Blessing and Casting of Bones is plenty utility. Maybe consider Shade's Form as well for a really diverse package.

I'd also recommend Stinkweed Imp as recursive removal that can dredge into Cenn's Enlistment, Ray of Distortion or Grim Harvest.

I think there are many cuts to be made. I wouldn't run the weaker token generators like Attended Knight/Songbirds. I think Spellduster and Scarecrow are too expensive fodder too. Victim of Night and Murder can probably safely be cut, especially if you're adding Imp. Definetely cut Undertaker. I'd probably cut Cadaver Imp too. Viscera Seer? Cut it for Phyrexian Rager. Cloudshift, Fanatical Devotion (competes with the ****** for resources), Whispersilk Cloak and the entire evasion package could easily go. Your beaters will be chumped and seem counter-intuitive to your strategy - I'd rather run Guardian of the Guildpact, though I agree that Unruly Mob seems to good to pass up for this deck.

@urdjur: your post was phenomenal, here are some of the changes I've made.

toxic nim > guardian of the guldpact
unruly mob > mesmeric fiend
even though it is awesome for the deck, it'll just get chumped, so I'm swapping it out for mesmeric fiend which will help out with the control direction I'm taking
bladed pinions, kitesail, and dirge of dread > sensor splicer, shade's form, and whitemane lion
undertaker > remember the fallen
orzhov cluestone > liliana's shade
viscera seer > phyrexian rager
rattleblaze scarecrow > wingrattle scarecrow
for lower cost

Also, once I get the cards, I'm going to swap kithkin spellduster for reliquary monk, noble templar for expedition map, murder for crypt rats, and victim of the night for gangrenous zombies.

I do think that a token strategy can work, you just need to include as much of the token stuff as you can and try to abuse it as much as you can. Fanatical devotion lets me redirect kill spells, and in this deck that's insane, so that definitely isn't getting cut. cadaver imp is staying in for the fact that it's a creature and easily recurrable. stinkweed imp is just more rattlesnaking and my deck already does that.

@ zombieshakespeare: oh my god. I really want to run that unicorn, because, well, unicorns. I just wish it targeted artifacts. Other than that, kami of false hope seems awesome to just permafog with in combination with disturbed burial/grim harvest. I actually used to have ashes to ashes in here, but then I started playing with a drogskol captain deck and that card would just be dead whenever my opponent dropped their commander or even just bounced a creature, so it got cut. I'm also not really trying to bounce/flicker with cloudshift/whitemane lion so much as just protect my creatures with some added utility if needed, and I dont need any more evasive creatures or anything so I dont think kor skyfisher is a good fit.

It's been a while and I've made some changes to my list so I figured I'd post them up.

Some overall trends I'm trying to implement is a more plentiful creature base, so I can build up to critical mass easier, with more evasion, since I've found slamming my tokens into other creatures isn't the most effective way to do things.

I swapped out liliana's shade and armillary sphere for orzhov cluestone and prismatic lens because simply putting lands into my hand wasn't cutting it. Prismatic lens was chosen over mind stone because it lets me filter to black mana for pestilence effects.
auramancer is getting swapped out for griffin dreamfinder due to the more relevant body. However, if dreamfinder still doesn't make enough of an impact, it might get cut entirely.
Remember the fallen is getting cut for dawnglare invoker. My deck just doesn't have enough artifacts to make RTF better than death's duet or recover and I recently got my ass handed to me by a guy playing the invoker, so it's going in.
Whispersilk cloak is getting pulled to test out coalition honor guard. Whispersilk cloak is one of the few protection spells I run that doesn't synergize well with the rest of the deck and coalition honor guard doesn't exactly synergize, but it's another body and it's protection that's tutorable with dimir house guard. Honestly, if I like it enough, I may even run standard bearer.

Some cards I'm trying to include are:
Capashen unicorn because disenchant on a stick sounds great to me. I'm just concerned about it being too slow.
Kami of False hope vwould be great in combination with disturbed burial and grim harvest for sweet permafogging. I can't figure out what to cut though.

Some cards on the chopping block are:
Undead executioner because faceless butcher is tutored just as easily and is strictly better. I'm considering swapping it out for celestial flare or tragic slip.
Darksteel pendant just isn't doing the job. I need more card advantage and less durdling. Debating altar's reap or maybe street wraith? I could always just throw sign in blood back in.

If anyone has any suggestions for my deck, please, they are welcome and appreciated.