First iteration of my build for Lord Windgrace. I've wanted to build a Jund deck pretty much since I started playing, so Windgrace makes perfect sense, as it lets me re-purpose my Gitrog Monster deck in to this.
I'll like to play a list with land destruction as well as land recursion but I feel that cards like molten rain are a waste of time (either too slow or horrible top decks). Also recurrent discard could go well with Windgrace's -2, maybe oppression or liliana of the veil...
I'll like to play a list with land destruction as well as land recursion but I feel that cards like molten rain are a waste of time (either too slow or horrible top decks). Also recurrent discard could go well with Windgrace's -2, maybe oppression or liliana of the veil...
Generally, yes! There are actually a lot of ways you could go with Wingrace. My build is a little more 'safe' than some of the cards you suggest, but I generally only want to use land destruction in a very controlled way (I have personal distaste for things like Jokulhaups). For the spell-based sac outlets, I generally prefer stuff like Zuran Orb, where its more easily repeatable, but that's a personal preference, and it probably wouldn't be too hard to fit in. I even run a number of cards that could easily be cut like Journey to Eternity or Conqueror's Galleon just because I think they're cute and I like them.
I think it goes very well with things like Borborygmos Enraged, and for retriggering your multiple landfall abilities, and can go practically unnoticed with things like burgeoning/oracle of mul daya, and it's own ability to let you drop more lands.
Have you thought about Wildfire and Destructive Force? I really like your list! I know how LD goes, but most players I play with are fine with symmetrical hate even with a way to break symmetry(except for Rock, Rock, ‘geddon...).
What about Destructive Flow? Also, you actually can't lose on a gamble for Loam, so it's probably worthy too.
I had Gamble in originally, but it got lost in the flow of the 50-ish cards I had to cut. >.< It is something I'd like to add back in when I get the chance though. Destructive Flow is interesting. I might take a look at it once the dust has settled and I see if my group is still sitting on the mono-color train.
I think it goes very well with things like Borborygmos Enraged, and for retriggering your multiple landfall abilities, and can go practically unnoticed with things like burgeoning/oracle of mul daya, and it's own ability to let you drop more lands.
Storm Cauldron I specifically cut until I can see just how frequent my discard outlets for my land stick. I've really enjoyed it in other decks where I had Borborygmos, for example, at the helm, I just wasn't really sure if it would consistently help me or hurt me here.
Have you thought about Wildfire and Destructive Force? I really like your list! I know how LD goes, but most players I play with are fine with symmetrical hate even with a way to break symmetry(except for Rock, Rock, ‘geddon...).
MLD I touched a little on earlier, I just personally am not a fan. I get suuuuper salty if it's used against me, so I prefer not to do so to others. I do still have controlled LD, so we'll see if that ends up being too much for my tastes.
Parallel Lives is an interesting thought though. I haven't played this build yet, so let me do that and see how much of what win conditions I actually end up with before I decide on it.
I was also looking at potentially adding Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre, for a cute combo with like, Seismic Assault, Gitrog Frog, and Dakmor Salvage, I just don't know if it's too cute.
This is what I've been working on. I took a couple reliable combos to add to the mix to keep it on the stronger side, but also added some things for fun to mess around with. I don't own any ABU's and Misty Rainforest is the only fetchland I don't have, so those are excluded. The deck has some rude synergies including things like recurring Strip Mine, Jokulhaups, etc. Been strongly considering Seismic Assault, Squandered Resources and/or Abundance.
4 Lord Windgrace
Creature (18)
1 Groundskeeper
1 Sylvan Safekeeper
3 Azusa, Lost but Seeking
3 Courser of Kruphix
3 Eternal Witness
3 Ramunap Excavator
3 Tireless Tracker
3 Turntimber Sower
4 Mina and Denn, Wildborn
4 Oracle of Mul Daya
5 Ob Nixilis, the Fallen
5 Titania, Protector of Argoth
6 Rampaging Baloths
6 The Gitrog Monster
6 Ulvenwald Hydra
7 Avenger of Zendikar
7 Omnath, Locus of Rage
8 Borborygmos Enraged
Enchantment (9)
1 Burgeoning
1 Exploration
2 Prismatic Omen
2 Squandered Resources
2 Sylvan Library
3 Journey to Eternity
3 Seismic Assault
4 Aggressive Mining
5 Zendikar's Roil
Sorcery (16)
1 Animist's Awakening
1 Traverse the Ulvenwald
2 Demonic Tutor
2 Life from the Loam
2 Sylvan Scrying
3 Sylvan Awakening
3 Toxic Deluge
4 Natural Order
4 Scapeshift
4 Splendid Reclamation
4 Tempt with Discovery
5 Creeping Renaissance
5 Rude Awakening
5 Hour of Promise
5 Worm Harvest
8 Praetor's Counsel
0 Zuran Orb
2 Thaumatic Compass
3 Crucible of Worlds
4 Conqueror's Galleon
Instant (5)
1 Crop Rotation
1 Vampiric Tutor
2 Constant Mists
3 Realms Uncharted
5 Windgrace's Judgement
Land (47)
0 Arid Mesa
0 Badlands
0 Bayou
0 Blood Crypt
0 Bloodstained Mire
0 Bojuka Bog
0 Cabal Coffers
0 Canyon Slough
0 Command Tower
0 Dakmor Salvage
0 Dark Depths
0 Drownyard Temple
0 Dust Bowl
0 Ghost Quarter
0 Glacial Chasm
0 Hissing Quagmire
0 Kessig Wolf Run
0 Lavaclaw Reaches
0 Marsh Flats
0 Maze of Ith
0 Misty Rainforest
0 Overgrown Tomb
0 Polluted Delta
0 Raging Ravine
0 Reliquary Tower
0 Scalding Tarn
0 Sheltered Thicket
0 Stomping Ground
0 Strip Mine
0 Taiga
0 Thespian's Stage
0 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
0 Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle
0 Verdant Catacombs
0 Vesuva
0 Volrath's Stronghold
0 Wasteland
0 Westvale Abbey
0 Windswept Heath
0 Wooded Foothills
0 Woodland Cemetery
2x Forest
2x Mountain
2x Swamp
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I'll like to play a list with land destruction as well as land recursion but I feel that cards like molten rain are a waste of time (either too slow or horrible top decks). Also recurrent discard could go well with Windgrace's -2, maybe oppression or liliana of the veil...
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Editted for my reasonings
I think it goes very well with things like Borborygmos Enraged, and for retriggering your multiple landfall abilities, and can go practically unnoticed with things like burgeoning/oracle of mul daya, and it's own ability to let you drop more lands.
Tons of tokens, Parallel Lives maybe?
Storm Cauldron I specifically cut until I can see just how frequent my discard outlets for my land stick. I've really enjoyed it in other decks where I had Borborygmos, for example, at the helm, I just wasn't really sure if it would consistently help me or hurt me here.
MLD I touched a little on earlier, I just personally am not a fan. I get suuuuper salty if it's used against me, so I prefer not to do so to others. I do still have controlled LD, so we'll see if that ends up being too much for my tastes.
Parallel Lives is an interesting thought though. I haven't played this build yet, so let me do that and see how much of what win conditions I actually end up with before I decide on it.
I was also looking at potentially adding Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre, for a cute combo with like, Seismic Assault, Gitrog Frog, and Dakmor Salvage, I just don't know if it's too cute.
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1 Lord Windgrace
Creature
1 Birds of Paradise
1 Sylvan Caryatid
1 Sylvan Safekeeper
1 Azusa, Lost but Seeking
1 Eternal Witness
1 Budoka Gardener
1 Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
1 Oracle of Mul Daya
1 Lotus Cobra
1 Ob Nixilis, the Fallen
1 Zealous Conscripts
1 Tireless Tracker
1 Groundskeeper
1 Mina and Denn, Wildborn
1 Whiptongue Hydra
1 Avenger of Zendikar
1 Mikaeus, the Unhallowed
1 Craterhoof Behemoth
1 Titania, Protector of Argoth
1 Omnath, Locus of Rage
1 Wayward Swordtooth
1 Nesting Dragon
1 Rampaging Baloths
1 The Gitrog Monster
1 Vaevictis Asmadi, the Dire
1 Liege of the Tangle
1 Phyrexian Reclamation
1 Pernicious Deed
1 Phyrexian Arena
1 Exploration
1 Zendikar's Roil
1 Retreat to Kazandu
1 Sylvan Library
1 Courser of Kruphix
Land
1 Strip Mine
1 Dust Bowl
12 Forest
5 Mountain
4 Swamp
1 Verdant Catacombs
1 Bojuka Bog
1 Command Tower
1 Evolving Wilds
1 Glacial Chasm
1 Blood Crypt
1 Overgrown Tomb
1 Stomping Ground
1 Bloodstained Mire
1 Windswept Heath
1 Wooded Foothills
1 Smoldering Marsh
1 Cinder Glade
1 Blighted Woodland
1 Marsh Flats
1 Mana Vault
1 Sol Ring
1 Zuran Orb
1 Crucible of Worlds
1 Mana Crypt
1 Triskelion
Instant
1 Worldly Tutor
1 Constant Mists
1 Crop Rotation
1 Harrow
1 Terminate
1 Krosan Grip
1 Putrefy
1 Windgrace's Judgement
Sorcery
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Jokulhaups
1 Far Wanderings
1 Tooth and Nail
1 Life from the Loam
1 Raven's Crime
1 Worm Harvest
1 Blasphemous Act
1 Toxic Deluge
1 Decimate
1 Cultivate
1 Splendid Reclamation
1 Reality Scramble