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I've tried similar approach but it didn't work. While discard plan is good on paper, most of your deck consists of mana dorks and stones which you may play from graveyard over and over and... nothing more. You have literally only one way to win - Emrakul - and even that is not reliable when your plan is stripping opponents of their hands. You need more draw effects and more threats / some kind of combo to win. I used Flash-Hulk but still suffered badly from unlucky draws and card quality I mentioned.
That's fair. I have plans with LED, Image, animate dead for infinite mana into playing my graveyard but am looking at more options for finishing the game. Thinking that Perncious deed or Sunder to make sure I'm the only one with a board would work well.
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If you're looking to do Muldrotha Stax I have a few suggestions.
Lethal Vapors - With Muldrotha on the board, this either kills every creature your opponents attempt to cast, or causes one of your opponents to lose their turn every turn cycle. In either instance I think this card is pretty sweet. And replaying it every turn when your opponents are losing turns to destroy it is just icing on the cake.
Standstill - This card serves two purposes. First, it makes some of your opponents not want to cast spells, while also making your other opponents that get to draw cards thank you for the card draw. This helps alleviate a little bit of the hatred you'll get at the table for playing a Stax deck. And second, when you go infinite with Muldortha, LED, and Phantasmal Image, Standstill is your win condition as it allows you to just have your opponents deck themselves.
Glacial Chasm - Don't play the cumulative upkeep, and just replay the land every turn. Never lose to damage. GGs friends.
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Modern Decks: UBG Lantern Control GBU BRG Bridge-Vine GRB
Commander Decks UBG Muldrotha, Value Elemental GBU BRG Windgrace Real-Estate Ltd. GRB
#PayThePros
If you're looking to do Muldrotha Stax I have a few suggestions.
Lethal Vapors - With Muldrotha on the board, this either kills every creature your opponents attempt to cast, or causes one of your opponents to lose their turn every turn cycle. In either instance I think this card is pretty sweet. And replaying it every turn when your opponents are losing turns to destroy it is just icing on the cake.
Standstill - This card serves two purposes. First, it makes some of your opponents not want to cast spells, while also making your other opponents that get to draw cards thank you for the card draw. This helps alleviate a little bit of the hatred you'll get at the table for playing a Stax deck. And second, when you go infinite with Muldortha, LED, and Phantasmal Image, Standstill is your win condition as it allows you to just have your opponents deck themselves.
Glacial Chasm - Don't play the cumulative upkeep, and just replay the land every turn. Never lose to damage. GGs friends.
I like the first two and will likely test them out in the future. I don't know about the chasm since a majority of the win cons in my opponents decks include destroying lands, comboing out, or pretty much everything but attacking
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Hey guys so I've actually moved on from commander on to 60 card decks so I don't have any commander decks.
Anyway I've started my own gameplay channel in which I play games (Magic also)
Hey guys so I've actually moved on from commander on to 60 card decks so I don't have any commander decks.
Anyway I've started my own gameplay channel in which I play games (Magic also)
Hey guys so I've actually moved on from commander on to 60 card decks so I don't have any commander decks.
Anyway I've started my own gameplay channel in which I play games (Magic also)
These changes may not stick, I don't like cutting Ponder or Preordain at all but sorceries are fairly bad in here. This will likely change in the future as I only cut them because I wanted to test those 6 cards. I want to try Dark Depths as well which means Thespain stage and crop rotation will likely be added in that test.
Minister of pain and Profaner work well with Living plane and gives me a one sided geddon which has been my biggest need. I can nuke all permanents easy but have few ways to kill lands. This seems like the best route for land destruction.
Anyway, looking forward to testing these out
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Cut Emrakul, Liliana the last hope, and Tatyonia for Razaketh, the eldest reborn, and Shreikmaw.
Figure repeatable removal and the sagas seem good in here. Eldest being the best option for me.
And Razaketh can easily combo with the deck. Just find Mindslicer and remove opponents hands. With that tutor find Intuition for the win or Living plane for one sided wipes if that isn't an option.
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I always thought of building muldrotha Stax with a way to sacrifice the Stax pieces at the end of the last players turn and recasting them on our turn so they don't affect us.
I always thought of building muldrotha Stax with a way to sacrifice the Stax pieces at the end of the last players turn and recasting them on our turn so they don't affect us.
Could also do that but there aren't many cards that allow you to sacrifice any permanent.
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my plan with mukdrotha is to use stax pieces to lock everyone else out and sac them before my turn and then recast them so they dont affect me.i made my group quit when i had tangle wire out with atraxa and played cataclysm. fun times to hear the moans of agony. fun times
my plan with mukdrotha is to use stax pieces to lock everyone else out and sac them before my turn and then recast them so they dont affect me.i made my group quit when i had tangle wire out with atraxa and played cataclysm. fun times to hear the moans of agony. fun times
That does sound like a lot of fun. Do you have a list online?
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sry about the multiple post btw... my internet sucks sometimes so ill click post more than once and once it connects it sends it more than one...
anyways... the stacks pieces tend to be artifacts or enchantments. if we focus on artifacts, im thinking theres cards out there to sacrifice artifacts. i dont have a list. i would need to sit down and do research on gatherer but thats what i was hoping to do with muldrotha. was hoping someone else had the same idea and had alrdy posted a list. lol
heres a gatherer list of cards that will let you sac perms. some of them are a one time instant a few a perms themselves:
When I built the list I saw the same cards and found that only Claws of Gix is really worth while in here
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Anyway I've started my own gameplay channel in which I play games (Magic also)
You can make more work but they need 2 cards instead of 1. Servant is a good card in general and barrin would work great. We alrdy run a lot of mana rocks to break the symmetry so the mana is used to activate barrin as many times as there are creatures in play. Then, and maybe im misunderstanding the rules a bit, any of the cards that say you may sacrifice a permanent to ignore an effect, you can do as many times as youd like to ignore the affect that many times and none of them say do this only as a sorcery. Then any of the o es that sac artifacts work as well bc a lot of stax cards are artifacts so we give thermal navigator flying as many times as we need to. Theres multiple ones that work
I like Barrin and I want to test him out in the future but my group isn't very creature based so I don't think he would be as good. I like that saccing of a permanent but my current build doesn't have too many things that I need to sacrifice often.
One of my favorite combos is landing Walking Balista with Living Plane and shooting down lands. When I get a cradle active it's usually a one sided geddon.
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Anyway I've started my own gameplay channel in which I play games (Magic also)
Barrin doesnt have to be only their creatures, just a heads up its essentially a way to remove a bunch of our stax pieces in one card. There are a lot of creatures we can use to lock down or slow down board states as well. For example, even though its not in our colors, hokori, the dust drinker hurts us as well unless we bounce it. But yeah... it is a downside to barrin. I dont like to blow up lands using 2 cards when i can do it with 1. And if im blowing up lands, i usually dont need mine bc im ahead on board with rocks. Usually mass LD is one sided in stax bc of how stax is built to break the symetry of the locks. Thats why i can cataclysm, or cards of the like, and not care. Lol
While it's fairly color intensive, I really like the inclusion of Voidmage Prodigy or Spiketail Drakeling. Combined with some of the Stax effects you're playing, it's possible that the 2 counters the spell you need it to. Both cards sac themself so you can recur them with Muldrotha while also being strong effects on their own.
While it's fairly color intensive, I really like the inclusion of Voidmage Prodigy or Spiketail Drakeling. Combined with some of the Stax effects you're playing, it's possible that the 2 counters the spell you need it to. Both cards sac themself so you can recur them with Muldrotha while also being strong effects on their own.
I feel like Glen Elendra and Siren Stormtamer would be better and I have stormtamer on my list to test out right now so I'm not sure there's room for them. I don't feel like I'm lacking in those effects but possibly could try it out in the future.
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Anyway I've started my own gameplay channel in which I play games (Magic also)
So another change that I never really considered before is I have too much ramp in here. Other builds I've done had ramp around 10-13 cards while this has 19. I know that is too much but am taking the number down a little slower
Today I just cut signets for more 1-2 cmc cards that I want to test and one of which can ramp as well
Hey guys so I've actually moved on from commander on to 60 card decks so I don't have any commander decks.
Anyway I've started my own gameplay channel in which I play games (Magic also)
Step Two: Protect Moldy
Step Three: No one has hands
Step Four: ???
Step Five: Profit
1 Muldrotha, the Gravetide
Creatures:
0 Walking balista
1 Birds of Paradise
1 Caustic Caterpillar
1 Deathrite Shaman
1 Elves of Deep Shadow
1 Elvish Mystic
1 Fyndhorn Elves
1 Llanowar Elves
1 Siren stormtamer
1 Stitcher's Supplier
1 Sylvan Safekeeper
1 Viscera Seer
2 Bloom Tender
2 Dark Confidant
2 Gilded Drake
2 Phantasmal Image
2 Spellskite
3 Eternal Witness
3 Minister of pain
3 Plaguecrafter
4 Glen Elendra Archmage
4 Mindslicer
5 Shreikmaw
6 Bane of progress
6 Consecrated Sphinx
7 Nezahal, Primal Tide
8 Razaketh, the foulblooded
10 Jin-Gitaxias, core augar
13 Emrakul, the promised end
Artifacts:
0 Chrome Mox
0 Claws of Gix
0 Lion's Eye Diamond
0 Mana Crypt
0 Mox Diamond
1 Mana Vault
1 Nihil Spellbomb
1 Skullclamp
1 Sol Ring
2 Fellwar Stone
2 Talisman of Dominance
4 Smokestack
1 Bloodchief Ascension
1 Carpet of Flowers
1 Mystic Remora
2 Animate Dead
2 Dance of the Dead
2 Seal of Primordium
2 Survival of the Fittest
2 Sylvan Library
3 Necropotence
3 Pernicious Deed
3 Rhystic Study
4 Living Plane
4 Zur's Weirding
Sorcery
1 Imperial Seal
2 Demonic Tutor
2 Diabolic intent
2 Life from the loam
3 Toxic Deluge
Instants:
1 Entomb
1 Vampiric Tutor
2 Arcane Denial
2 Cyclonic Rift
2 Mana Drain
2 Mausoleum Secrets
3 Intuition
5 Force of Will
Planeswalkers:
3 Liliana of the veil
4 Kiora, Master of the Depths
4 Vraska, Golgari Queen
Lands:
1 Ancient Tomb
1 Bayou
1 Bazaar of baghdad
1 Bloodstained Mire
1 Breeding Pool
1 Cephalid Coliseum
1 City of Brass
1 Command beacon
1 Command Tower
1 Flooded Strand
1 Forest
1 Gaea's Cradle
1 Island
1 Mana Confluence
1 Marsh Flats
1 Misty Rainforest
1 Overgrown Tomb
1 Phyrexian Tower
1 Polluted Delta
1 Scalding Tarn
1 Strip Mine
1 Swamp
1 Tropical Island
1 Underground Sea
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
1 Verdant Catacombs
1 Watery Grave
1 Windswept Heath
1 Wooded Foothills
Sidisi, Undead Vizier
Cavern of souls
plaguecrafter
Hostage taker
Spore Frog
Mulldrifter
Necromancy
Codex shredder
Garruk, primal hunter
Assassin's Trophey
Batterskull
Sword of feast and famine
Sword of fire and ice
Fauna shaman
Garruk Relentless
MOAR COMING SOON!
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That's fair. I have plans with LED, Image, animate dead for infinite mana into playing my graveyard but am looking at more options for finishing the game. Thinking that Perncious deed or Sunder to make sure I'm the only one with a board would work well.
Anyway I've started my own gameplay channel in which I play games (Magic also)
Twitch:
https://www.twitch.tv/dies_to_doom_blade
Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/user/UpsidedownHandshake
Lethal Vapors - With Muldrotha on the board, this either kills every creature your opponents attempt to cast, or causes one of your opponents to lose their turn every turn cycle. In either instance I think this card is pretty sweet. And replaying it every turn when your opponents are losing turns to destroy it is just icing on the cake.
Standstill - This card serves two purposes. First, it makes some of your opponents not want to cast spells, while also making your other opponents that get to draw cards thank you for the card draw. This helps alleviate a little bit of the hatred you'll get at the table for playing a Stax deck. And second, when you go infinite with Muldortha, LED, and Phantasmal Image, Standstill is your win condition as it allows you to just have your opponents deck themselves.
Glacial Chasm - Don't play the cumulative upkeep, and just replay the land every turn. Never lose to damage. GGs friends.
Modern Decks:
UBG Lantern Control GBU
BRG Bridge-Vine GRB
Commander Decks
UBG Muldrotha, Value Elemental GBU
BRG Windgrace Real-Estate Ltd. GRB
#PayThePros
I like the first two and will likely test them out in the future. I don't know about the chasm since a majority of the win cons in my opponents decks include destroying lands, comboing out, or pretty much everything but attacking
Anyway I've started my own gameplay channel in which I play games (Magic also)
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Youtube:
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-Uba mask
-Hatching plans
-Mana vortex
+ Bloodcheif ascension
+Glen Elendra archmage
+Sunder
+Liliana, Heritcal healer
Anyway I've started my own gameplay channel in which I play games (Magic also)
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-Inventor's Fair
-Dark deal
-Windfall
-Notion Theif
-Liliana, Hertical healer
-Necrogen mists
-Bottomless pit
-Sunder
+Life from the loam
+Skullclamp
+Jin-Gitaxias, core augar
+Bane of progress
+Siren stormtamer
+Secrets of the dead
+Walking Balista
+Command beacon
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-Ponder
-Preordain
-Siren Stormtamer
-Bloodcheif Ascension
-Zur's Weirding
-chains of mephistopheles
+Living plane
+River Kelphie
+Minister of pain
+profaner of the dead
+Viscera Seer
+Mirage Mirror
These changes may not stick, I don't like cutting Ponder or Preordain at all but sorceries are fairly bad in here. This will likely change in the future as I only cut them because I wanted to test those 6 cards. I want to try Dark Depths as well which means Thespain stage and crop rotation will likely be added in that test.
Minister of pain and Profaner work well with Living plane and gives me a one sided geddon which has been my biggest need. I can nuke all permanents easy but have few ways to kill lands. This seems like the best route for land destruction.
Anyway, looking forward to testing these out
Anyway I've started my own gameplay channel in which I play games (Magic also)
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Youtube:
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Figure repeatable removal and the sagas seem good in here. Eldest being the best option for me.
And Razaketh can easily combo with the deck. Just find Mindslicer and remove opponents hands. With that tutor find Intuition for the win or Living plane for one sided wipes if that isn't an option.
Anyway I've started my own gameplay channel in which I play games (Magic also)
Twitch:
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Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/user/UpsidedownHandshake
Could also do that but there aren't many cards that allow you to sacrifice any permanent.
Anyway I've started my own gameplay channel in which I play games (Magic also)
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Youtube:
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That does sound like a lot of fun. Do you have a list online?
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Youtube:
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anyways... the stacks pieces tend to be artifacts or enchantments. if we focus on artifacts, im thinking theres cards out there to sacrifice artifacts. i dont have a list. i would need to sit down and do research on gatherer but thats what i was hoping to do with muldrotha. was hoping someone else had the same idea and had alrdy posted a list. lol
heres a gatherer list of cards that will let you sac perms. some of them are a one time instant a few a perms themselves:
claws of gix
abjure + painter's servant
barrin, master wizard
damping engine
dralnu, lich lord
fade away
forbidden ritual
infernal tribute
kaervek's spite
lich
lich's tomb
nature's wrath + painter's servant
oath of lim-dul + way to hit ourselves
phyrexian negator
phyrexian totem
possessed portal
read the runes
renounce
reprocess
volrath's curse
some of these are probably straight unplayable but i always like to look at all options.
heres the list of cards that sac an artifact at instant speed and numerous times:
arcbound ravanger
extruder
krark clan ironworks
thermal navigator
time sieve
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One of my favorite combos is landing Walking Balista with Living Plane and shooting down lands. When I get a cradle active it's usually a one sided geddon.
Anyway I've started my own gameplay channel in which I play games (Magic also)
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Youtube:
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UB Dralnu, Lich Lord
RBW [Primer]-Kaalia of the Vast
BUG [Primer]-Tasigur, the Golden Fang
GWU [Primer]-Arcades, the Strategist
WUB Primer-Aminatou, the Fateshifter
UBR Nicol Bolas, the Ravager
I feel like Glen Elendra and Siren Stormtamer would be better and I have stormtamer on my list to test out right now so I'm not sure there's room for them. I don't feel like I'm lacking in those effects but possibly could try it out in the future.
Anyway I've started my own gameplay channel in which I play games (Magic also)
Twitch:
https://www.twitch.tv/dies_to_doom_blade
Youtube:
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Today I just cut signets for more 1-2 cmc cards that I want to test and one of which can ramp as well
-Golgari signet
-Dimir signet
-Simic signet
+Thrasios, triton hero
+Diabolic intent
+Mausoleum Secrets
Anyway I've started my own gameplay channel in which I play games (Magic also)
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