Okay, so with almost half of the cards from Dominaria spoiled, I got this janky idea of equipping Brothers Yamazaki with Helm of the Host and going to town. Recently, other cards being released have also added to the possibility of running this jank like Blade of Selves, Mirror of the Forebears, and Mirage Mirror. Without the obvious mention of Mirror Gallery, Helm of the Host can make some pretty interesting plays. Equipping Brothers Yamazaki with it makes indefinite tokens even if you don't have Mirror Gallery out. Then you can simply copy the nonlegendary Brothers Yamazaki and have each one give his brothers +2/+2 which is practically exponential. And quite honestly, who's going to see you as a threat at a table when you whip out one of the two versions of Brothers Yamazaki as your commander?
So what the deck wants to do is attack with as many Brothers Yamazaki as possible. It's pretty much along the lines of attacking with an army of Elvish Archdruid. Except that everybody gets cumulative +2/+2. Beyond that shell the deck just does its best to be fast and to dig quickly for the cards that will effectively clone Brothers Yamazaki in order to potentially snipe an opponent. Again, being janky and casual. The best way to go about being equipping Brothers Yamazaki with Blade of Selves and attacking while having Mirror Gallery in play.
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Mimic Vat can give you a Brother every turn without Sundial.
I really like the notion of sacrificing Brothers Yamazaki (it has a terrible p/t) as a response to removal since it's easy to cast. That way I can take advantage of cards like Mimic Vat and your other suggestions. Sundial of the Infinite would be great to add!
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But Spy Kit wouldn't let me have a creature called Brothers Yamazaki because it has to be nonlegendary. Even if I make a nonlegendary token named Brothers Yamazaki with Helm of the Host, the nonlegendary creature names mentioned by Spy Kit have to be in Oracle.
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But Spy Kit wouldn't let me have a creature called Brothers Yamazaki because it has to be nonlegendary. Even if I make a nonlegendary token named Brothers Yamazaki with Helm of the Host, the nonlegendary creature names mentioned by Spy Kit have to be in Oracle.
Yeah, every now and again I misread cards too, lol. But at least now I have a good idea of taking advantage of sacrifice hijinxes with trying to abuse Brothers Yamazaki.
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Yeah, every now and again I misread cards too, lol. But at least now I have a good idea of taking advantage of sacrifice hijinxes with trying to abuse Brothers Yamazaki.
I'm confused what you mean by that. What benefit do you get from sacking them? Are you really planning to put your commander under a mimic vat? Seems really risky.
Considering how integral certain artifacts are to your plans, I'd say hoarding dragon is probably a must.
As for card suggestions, if Heat Shimmer is worth tree mana then casting Kindred Charge for six when you have more than one brother should make it worth the cost. I'm also going to second Hoarding Dragon if your playgroup isn't too likely to exile it before you can get it killed. Since you're using Snow Covered Mountains, I'm going to suggest Scrying Sheets for there to be a reason for Snow Lands other than style points. (Nothing against style Points, I just think you earned enough from running Brothers Yamazaki. :P) If you're insane enough to risk losing Brothers Yamazaki to Mimic Vat, then you're probably be fine risking losing him to use Feldon of the Third Path too. I don't expect you to consider the last one, I'm just throwing it out there.
Yeah, every now and again I misread cards too, lol. But at least now I have a good idea of taking advantage of sacrifice hijinxes with trying to abuse Brothers Yamazaki.
I'm confused what you mean by that. What benefit do you get from sacking them? Are you really planning to put your commander under a mimic vat? Seems really risky.
Considering how integral certain artifacts are to your plans, I'd say hoarding dragon is probably a must.
Yeah, I'm probably not going to be running Mimic Vat being able to sacrifice tokens that are already going to disappear at the end of the turn seems like something a bit more useful then just attacking and then having them do nothing.
Hoarding Dragon seems like a good card to include to tutor for artifacts.
Any suggestions on some cuts I could make to get some room in the list?
As for card suggestions, if Heat Shimmer is worth tree mana then casting Kindred Charge for six when you have more than one brother should make it worth the cost. I'm also going to second Hoarding Dragon if your playgroup isn't too likely to exile it before you can get it killed. Since you're using Snow Covered Mountains, I'm going to suggest Scrying Sheets for there to be a reason for Snow Lands other than style points. (Nothing against style Points, I just think you earned enough from running Brothers Yamazaki. :P) If you're insane enough to risk losing Brothers Yamazaki to Mimic Vat, then you're probably be fine risking losing him to use Feldon of the Third Path too. I don't expect you to consider the last one, I'm just throwing it out there.
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Okay, so with almost half of the cards from Dominaria spoiled, I got this janky idea of equipping Brothers Yamazaki with Helm of the Host and going to town. Recently, other cards being released have also added to the possibility of running this jank like Blade of Selves, Mirror of the Forebears, and Mirage Mirror. Without the obvious mention of Mirror Gallery, Helm of the Host can make some pretty interesting plays. Equipping Brothers Yamazaki with it makes indefinite tokens even if you don't have Mirror Gallery out. Then you can simply copy the nonlegendary Brothers Yamazaki and have each one give his brothers +2/+2 which is practically exponential. And quite honestly, who's going to see you as a threat at a table when you whip out one of the two versions of Brothers Yamazaki as your commander?
Here's my list so far:
5 Alhammarret's Archive
2 Anvil of Bogardan
2 Azor's Gateway
2 Blade of Selves
0 Chrome Mox
5 Coat of Arms
2 Dowsing Dagger
1 Elixir of Immortality
1 Expedition Map
4 Font of Mythos
4 Ghirapur Orrery
2 Howling Mine
0 Lotus Bloom
0 Lotus Petal
0 Mana Crypt
0 Mana Vault
5 Memory Jar
3 Mirage Mirror
5 Mirror Gallery
2 Mirror of the Forebears
5 Mirrorworks
0 Mox Amber
0 Mox Diamond
0 Mox Opal
5 Paradox Engine
3 Rings of Brighthearth
1 Sol Ring
2 Strionic Resonator
4 Anger
3 Archetype of Aggression
7 Dragon Mage
5 Flamerush Rider
6 Godo, Bandit Warlord
6 Hellkite Charger
5 Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
10 Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
10 Kozilek, the Great Distortion
3 Magus of the Wheel
6 Runehorn Hellkite
6 Scourge of the Throne
3 Tilonalli's Skinshifter
Enchantments: 5
3 Aggravated Assault
3 Blood Moon
6 Rage Reflection
3 Shared Animosity
4 Splinter Twin
Planeswalkers: 2
4 Daretti, Scrap Savant
4 Koth of the Hammer
Sorceries: 12
2 Cathartic Reunion
1 Faithless Looting
5 Incendiary Command
1 Magmatic Insight
3 Molten Psyche
5 Reforge the Soul
4 Relentless Assault
2 Tormenting Voice
2 Wheel of Fate
3 Wheel of Fortune
2 Wild Guess
1 Winds of Change
0 Ancient Tomb
0 Balduvian Trading Post
0 Dormant Volcano
0 Geier Reach Sanitarium
0 Mikokoro, Center of the Sea
0 Mirrorpool
0 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
0 Rogue's Passage
0 Temple of the False God
0 Thawing Glaciers
0 Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle
0 Snow-Covered Mountain (×27)
So what the deck wants to do is attack with as many Brothers Yamazaki as possible. It's pretty much along the lines of attacking with an army of Elvish Archdruid. Except that everybody gets cumulative +2/+2. Beyond that shell the deck just does its best to be fast and to dig quickly for the cards that will effectively clone Brothers Yamazaki in order to potentially snipe an opponent. Again, being janky and casual. The best way to go about being equipping Brothers Yamazaki with Blade of Selves and attacking while having Mirror Gallery in play.
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I really like the notion of sacrificing Brothers Yamazaki (it has a terrible p/t) as a response to removal since it's easy to cast. That way I can take advantage of cards like Mimic Vat and your other suggestions. Sundial of the Infinite would be great to add!
Any other suggestions please let me know!
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How about spy kit to get an extra brother?
EDH Primers
Phelddagrif - Zirilan
EDH
Thrasios+Bruse - Pang - Sasaya - Wydwen - Feather - Rona - Toshiro - Sylvia+Khorvath - Geth - QMarchesa - Firesong - Athreos - Arixmethes - Isperia - Etali - Silas+Sidar - Saskia - Virtus+Gorm - Kynaios - Naban - Aryel - Mizzix - Kazuul - Tymna+Kraum - Sidar+Tymna - Ayli - Gwendlyn - Phelddagrif 4 - Liliana - Kaervek - Phelddagrif 3 - Mairsil - Scarab - Child - Phenax - Shirei - Thada - Depala - Circu - Kytheon - GrenzoHR - Phelddagrif - Reyhan+Kraum - Toshiro - Varolz - Nin - Ojutai - Tasigur - Zedruu - Uril - Edric - Wort - Zurgo - Nahiri - Grenzo - Kozilek - Yisan - Ink-Treader - Yisan - Brago - Sidisi - Toshiro - Alexi - Sygg - Brimaz - Sek'Kuar - Marchesa - Vish Kal - Iroas - Phelddagrif - Ephara - Derevi - Glissa - Wanderer - Saffi - Melek - Xiahou Dun - Lazav - Lin Sivvi - Zirilan - Glissa
PDH - Drake - Graverobber - Izzet GM - Tallowisp - Symbiote Brawl - Feather - Ugin - Jace - Scarab - Angrath - Vraska - Kumena Oathbreaker - Wrenn&6
But Spy Kit wouldn't let me have a creature called Brothers Yamazaki because it has to be nonlegendary. Even if I make a nonlegendary token named Brothers Yamazaki with Helm of the Host, the nonlegendary creature names mentioned by Spy Kit have to be in Oracle.
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EDH Primers
Phelddagrif - Zirilan
EDH
Thrasios+Bruse - Pang - Sasaya - Wydwen - Feather - Rona - Toshiro - Sylvia+Khorvath - Geth - QMarchesa - Firesong - Athreos - Arixmethes - Isperia - Etali - Silas+Sidar - Saskia - Virtus+Gorm - Kynaios - Naban - Aryel - Mizzix - Kazuul - Tymna+Kraum - Sidar+Tymna - Ayli - Gwendlyn - Phelddagrif 4 - Liliana - Kaervek - Phelddagrif 3 - Mairsil - Scarab - Child - Phenax - Shirei - Thada - Depala - Circu - Kytheon - GrenzoHR - Phelddagrif - Reyhan+Kraum - Toshiro - Varolz - Nin - Ojutai - Tasigur - Zedruu - Uril - Edric - Wort - Zurgo - Nahiri - Grenzo - Kozilek - Yisan - Ink-Treader - Yisan - Brago - Sidisi - Toshiro - Alexi - Sygg - Brimaz - Sek'Kuar - Marchesa - Vish Kal - Iroas - Phelddagrif - Ephara - Derevi - Glissa - Wanderer - Saffi - Melek - Xiahou Dun - Lazav - Lin Sivvi - Zirilan - Glissa
PDH - Drake - Graverobber - Izzet GM - Tallowisp - Symbiote Brawl - Feather - Ugin - Jace - Scarab - Angrath - Vraska - Kumena Oathbreaker - Wrenn&6
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Considering how integral certain artifacts are to your plans, I'd say hoarding dragon is probably a must.
EDH Primers
Phelddagrif - Zirilan
EDH
Thrasios+Bruse - Pang - Sasaya - Wydwen - Feather - Rona - Toshiro - Sylvia+Khorvath - Geth - QMarchesa - Firesong - Athreos - Arixmethes - Isperia - Etali - Silas+Sidar - Saskia - Virtus+Gorm - Kynaios - Naban - Aryel - Mizzix - Kazuul - Tymna+Kraum - Sidar+Tymna - Ayli - Gwendlyn - Phelddagrif 4 - Liliana - Kaervek - Phelddagrif 3 - Mairsil - Scarab - Child - Phenax - Shirei - Thada - Depala - Circu - Kytheon - GrenzoHR - Phelddagrif - Reyhan+Kraum - Toshiro - Varolz - Nin - Ojutai - Tasigur - Zedruu - Uril - Edric - Wort - Zurgo - Nahiri - Grenzo - Kozilek - Yisan - Ink-Treader - Yisan - Brago - Sidisi - Toshiro - Alexi - Sygg - Brimaz - Sek'Kuar - Marchesa - Vish Kal - Iroas - Phelddagrif - Ephara - Derevi - Glissa - Wanderer - Saffi - Melek - Xiahou Dun - Lazav - Lin Sivvi - Zirilan - Glissa
PDH - Drake - Graverobber - Izzet GM - Tallowisp - Symbiote Brawl - Feather - Ugin - Jace - Scarab - Angrath - Vraska - Kumena Oathbreaker - Wrenn&6
Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker and Tilonalli's Skinshifter can't copy Legends so they're not that good without Helm of the Host. Also, with Sundial of the Infinite you need to see if the cards say to sacrifice/exile the clone at end of turn next end step like Flameshadow Conjuring and Twinflame or if it gives the clone "Sacrifice/Exile this at end of turn" like Minion Reflector and Heat Shimmer. The latter's clones try to sacrifice/exile at the end of each turn, so Sundial of the Infinite just makes them last until the next player's turn.
As for card suggestions, if Heat Shimmer is worth tree mana then casting Kindred Charge for six when you have more than one brother should make it worth the cost. I'm also going to second Hoarding Dragon if your playgroup isn't too likely to exile it before you can get it killed. Since you're using Snow Covered Mountains, I'm going to suggest Scrying Sheets for there to be a reason for Snow Lands other than style points. (Nothing against style Points, I just think you earned enough from running Brothers Yamazaki. :P) If you're insane enough to risk losing Brothers Yamazaki to Mimic Vat, then you're probably be fine risking losing him to use Feldon of the Third Path too. I don't expect you to consider the last one, I'm just throwing it out there.
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Yeah, I'm probably not going to be running Mimic Vat being able to sacrifice tokens that are already going to disappear at the end of the turn seems like something a bit more useful then just attacking and then having them do nothing.
Hoarding Dragon seems like a good card to include to tutor for artifacts.
Any suggestions on some cuts I could make to get some room in the list?
Yeah, Kiki-Jiki, Mirror-Breaker and Tilonalli's Skinshifter are for copying nonlegendary copies (either way they're good for copying cards like Dragon Mage, Scourge of the Throne, and Magus of the Wheel). Scrying Sheets is something I can definitely consider. The reason I run snow-covered basics is because people who run cards like Extraplanar Lens tend to do so due to them running snow-covered lands.
What cuts do you think I could do to make some space in the deck?
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