Quote from Catherine Cook »Or just, this guy + Myr Retriever + Krark-Clan Ironworks + any 0 CMC artifact = infinite mana?
Sac the 0 CMC artifact to Ironworks, then sac Retriever to Ironworks: you have 4 mana and the artifact is back to your hand. Cast Teshar, play the artifact, Retriever returns to the field. Sac the artifact, sac Retriever, the artifact returns to your hand, so you can play it, reviving Retriever. Repeat ad infinitum.
Quote from darkeshrine »No Auriok Salvagers? Goes infinite with Lion's Eye Diamond and let's you get every 3cmc creature and 0-1cmc artifact from your graveyard with your commander. Generally useful with bunches of low cost artifacts anyway.
Quote from harakirinosaru »Shimmer Myr lets you set up or combo at instant speed, and can be returned with Teshar's triggered ability.
Grafted Wargear seems the worst of the sac outlets, because you need two creatures + Teshar to 'go off' instead of one with Demonmail Hauberk.
Conjurer's Bauble lets you save your graveyard from graveyard hate that isn't a Relic of Progenitus effect, and cantrips as well.
Quote from benjameenbear »Hey man, I love your lists. I think that this mono-W deck is awesome and has a lot of merit.
Quote from Catherine Cook »I can see your point, and yes, Hauberk does indeed look like a badass card. I for one know for a fact that I will be using the combo I mentioned in my Breya deck, as of the cards involved, Teshar looks like it would be useful in Breya's deck regardless of whether or not I use him in infinite loops, and all the others I already run anyway.
Quote from darrenhabib »I figured out that you can get a few more infinite going with Scrap Trawler.
Scrap Trawler allows for a couple of other subtle loops without needing a sacrifice outlet. There are currently 3 artifact creatures that can sacrifice themselves, Hope of Ghirapur, Scarecrone and Arcbound Ravager.
With Hope of Ghirapur and Lotus Petal or Lion's Eye Diamond, you can sacrifice the Hope of Ghirapur to get back one of these cards. Recast, get the Hope of Ghirapur back into play and repeat for infinite mana. If you use Scrap Trawler and Hope of Ghirapur with Urza's Bauble or Mishra's Bauble you can draw your deck in the next upkeep. Tormod's Crypt can also be used to get infinite graveyard removals.
Quote from Oracletext »
The trick doesn't actually work with Hope of Ghirapur, since after the first sacrifice, the game treats your recurred Hope of Ghirapur as a new game object that has not dealt combat damage to any player, which translates to you not being able to activate its ability because there are no valid targets for it. However, this would work with many cards that you don't have in the list like Bottle Gnomes (also arbitrary lifegain), Coretapper (more charge counters than you can shake a stick at), Lurebound Scarecrow (pick a permanent color you don't have), Phyrexian Dreadnought (lol), Thermal Navigator, or Ticking Gnomes (arbitrary damage).
Quote from unwisedragon »I've encountered a slightly weird problem with Urza's Bauble. I was playing against a friend and in order to combo him on his upkeep I had to resolve 70 triggers, which required picking a random card from his hand 70 times. I checked with a judge and I do actually need to choose a random card 70 times unless my opponent explicitly allows me to shortcut this action (in this case it was just a friendly game, so I was able to do this). They are allowed to require you to resolve each trigger, though, which means Urza's Bauble might be a little problematic in tournaments if your opponent dislikes you. There are no special rules for choosing yourself - you might still be required to perform n die rolls to choose a card.
I don't know how relevant this actually is, but I thought it was kind of neat. Maybe every judge you ask would rule in favour of allowing the infinite, maybe some judges would give you a warning for slow play.
Quote from schweinefett »have you tested the deck much recently?
i'm having a seriously tough time trying to find a LED, and it seems like it's a pretty important ritual effect for the deck.