Quote from Rumpy5897 »I know, right? What a cool card. Also, sorry to hear about Daxos's demise. Also also, cool to watch you add Bolas Rock to decks. Also also also, I don't think I thanked you for this anywhere, but I started very actively paying attention to cards' "floors" after reading that somewhere in your threads and it helped me produce a functioning Feather with a relatively short tuning phase.
Quote from JaishivaJai »Hello Tev. I noticed you are playing a good amount of the combo pieces I'm using in my combo-centric Marchesa build.
I'm wondering if you've considered added Murderous Redcap into the mix. He combos with Spark Double and a sac. outlet for infinite damage. You just have double copy redcap, sac. it, it persists, but it gets a counter, but then you give it persist again.
Then you can also go redcap plus Metallic Mimic plus sac. outlet for infinite damage. Why do you currently have mimic in the build? Is it just to help Marchesa get a counter primarily?
I'm also wondering if you have thought about Exsanguinate for this list. It can help protect you against dying on the crackback while also draining all opponents. Anyway, I love the list! I may pick up some tasty goodies from it if I end up not liking the combo. route I'm taking with my deck.
Are you running Skullclamp? I've always loved that in a Marchesa build.
One more question, it seems like the deck is low on card draw. Are you finding that to be a problem? Do you tend to run out of cards before the game is over? It seems like cutting a couple of creatures for cards like Concentrate or Ambition's Cost might help. It's just my guess, but I have never played an EDH deck as low to the ground or aggro as yours before either.
Please take a look at my Marchesa combo deck if you're at all interested. Though it's quite different, you never know where you can find a good synergistic piece. It's still in it's development with it's first pilot test coming soon.
Quote from Rumpy5897 »The cEDH facsimile is a pretty good description. I recognise a group of "casual terrors", a general umbrella term for commanders that built competently will annihilate a casual pod, but have no game if actual cEDH were to show up. I'd actually include Marchesa in that category However, your build is relatively benign. Turns out you can do some interesting things with the commander, as evidenced by your take or an artifact-heavy spin (plushpenguin's list, or a severely depowered variant of it cruising around in my meta).
Quote from Tev »Uh, a 6? 7? It's probably my most tuned, most piloted deck as it started as a pet project that's evolved into something new. I did a brief foray into cEDH but I found it boring. The majority of my interest in EDH is being creative. It is easy to make a good deck, I am more interested in taking an unusual theme and making that good. cEDH is just a race to the most efficient which leaves little for creativity; they're the most boring decks for me to make and while playing them is rewarding it is difficult to get a good cEDH pod. The majority of players aren't building cEDH to play cEDH, they build a facsimile of cEDH just to pubstomp players who don't know any better. This behaviour is poisonous as it turns away particular players and others adapt the mentality of spending more money is the only way out, which then locks another batch of players out. Because sadly, frequently, the only way to improve a cEDH deck is to spend more money; while something that is less powerful lets you be creative with different themes or trying something new out.
I think Benthic Biomancer is a better Looter than Looter il-Kor. It's a Wizard so it benefits from Metallic Mimic and Sage of Fables, allowing you to repeatedly Sacrifice it for value. It would also ETB with a +1/+1, so that instantly draws you a card. If you don't have that, you can just swing each turn to get more Loots. It also protects itself in a pinch by Adapting in response to removal.
Magmasaur is too costly for my build to consider. My cards that cost 5+ are there to win me the game, not do cute things. That's one of the things that sucks about this particular build is that I don't have time to do silly things, I need to be efficient with my win. Since you're going more midrange, you can afford to do some more card advantage tricks. One of the best cards I saw for a Midrange Marchesa was Pilgrim's Eye; it flew in for damage and colour fixed his budget mana base but also ensured he would have a land drop each turn for his expensive Creatures.
Quote from JaishivaJai »Is Razaketh, the Foulblooded a better choice? I still like Vilis, Broker of Blood as a budget option substitute (Razaketh is $10-12 while vilis is about $1.) Razaketh has trample, which can't be ignored with 8 power. Vilis can get chump blocked out easily.