Quote from MatsuriFramboise »Hello! Really liking this guide and I've been using it for inspiration ever since I decided I wanted to start building an Ayli deck (main theme: drain/bleed lifegain wincons, with a token subtheme for use as ammo for Ashnod's Altar or Ayli's second ability, for throwing out spot removal/disruption).
I haven't totally finished my deck yet, but I had a question. Since I'm focusing on lifegain/draining for this deck, one of the cards I planned for my 99 was Serra Avatar. It seems like it has good potential, but I want to be sure before I try it: Say I have 100 life and I sacrifice the Avatar to Ayli's first skill. Would I gain 100 life from that as it's toughness would be 100, tied to my life total, or would it be zero as it's a * amount? Because if it works like I hope it does, it'd have a Beacon of Immortality effect that pairs beautifully with Sanguine Bond or Vizkopa Guildmage. A shame you can't really do any recursion shenanigans with it, though.
Is that how it works, or am I just crazy?
Quote from Jonas Ukulore »I think Ayli's first ablity just checks whatever the toughness of the creature is, this is including */* stats like Serra Avatar, or the minus from an equipped skullclamp, fore example.
Quote from Dechs KaisonWhat the Griselbrand, Xen. Just when I thought your stuff couldn't get any better, you churn out that Jeleva banner. It's gorgeous.
Quote from Jonas Ukulore »Whow, Xen.. Kelzam :-)! What a detailed analysis. @ MatsuriFramboise: I feel Teysa, Orzhov Scion might perhaps be better, should you decide to go to a more token-focused BW deck instead of Ayli.
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Stuff I have at the side at the moment for consideration but can't decide on:
Thalia, Heretic Cathar and Blind Obedience - Blind Obedience seems like the better choice, but it didn't really seem that important
Grand Abolisher - Might be nice on turns when I'm going off with a finisher?
Underworld Connections - I have better draw engines, I think
Sorin, Solemn Visitor - Seems good and fits my theme of lifegain with a pseudo-anthem that gives lifelink, makes tokens, and has an emblem that forces opponents to sacrifice things
Nihil Spellbomb - Quick graveyard hate that draws a card could be useful
Magus of the Will - Because I can't justify buying Yawgmoth's Will right now
Sorin, Grim Nemesis - Seems like a great card, but I don't have the Sensei's Divining Top and such to make his +1 really useful. But either way it's card draw? I don't know.
Spectral Procession - With all the reanimation this deck can do, I don't know if it's necessary. Lingering Souls is better anyway.
Liliana Vess - Nice utilities! Her -8 is pretty cool. But I already have a Liliana in this deck so I dunno if I want to risk pairing them up.
Mark of Asylum - Rune-Tail, Kitsune Ascendant's able to be reanimated, and the enchantment covers more ground.
Angelic Accord - Seems like a useful card since I'll be gaining a lot of life, but let's be real, it's because I didn't spring for Luminarch Ascension yet
How does it look so far?
Also on my wish list of sorts that aren't listed at all: Sheoldred, Kokusho, Yosei, Weathered Wayfarer, Rune-Scarred Demon, Vish Kal, Karmic Guide, Reveillark, Teysa, Orzhov Scion
Quote from Jonas Ukulore »Hey Kelzam: about Approach of the Second Sun: I think it's the second time you cast it, that it needs to resolve, whether the first one got countered or not, is not important. Please keep us posted on how your changes work out, I'm very interested!
I'm cutting Kaya, Ghost Assassin for Razaketh, the Foulblooded. I'm liking Sorin too much atm, especially with Scroll Rack and Top, but he's definitely not safe from the chopping block. Will see whether Raza is really needed - Is it possible to play perhaps too much tutors? (Demonic, Vampiric, Enlightened, Rune-Scarred, Seal, Recruiter, Entomb)
As your second Approach of the Second Sun resolves, it checks only whether the first one was cast, not whether the first one resolved. If your first Approach of the Second Sun was countered, you’ll still win the game as your second one resolves.