Quote from papa_funk »Not running a card because you wouldn't have fun with it is the most important reason not to run a card.
Quote from EonAon »Hey Bob was looking through the changelogs and was wondering something. Did you ever play Luminarch Ascension in your deck? I would have though that doing the landfall/fog thing would have made it a go to token provider in a deck like this. Which leads me to the other thing I found in Seraph Sanctuary. Maybe going into a secondary token theme of angel tokens of various sizes with the ability to search out certain lands at near will would be interesting? Or did you consider it and decided it brought too much heat to you too early and agro to you late?
Still unsure if Angelic Accord is worth it or it would be better to nickel and dime single life more for the sunmare and frustration of others alongside helping the costs of Glacial Chasm. Too bad Solemnity keeps the +1 counters off or own creatures or it basically makes Glacial free.
Courser of Kruphix, Grazing Gladehart, and pristine talisman look to be almost auto includes if your trying for a mini life gain theme. Admittedly a lot of this is starting to clog up the 3 cc spot but there HAS to be a way to fit what would work in.
Quote from ISBPathfinder »bob, I figure its time for you to look at some new cards for this list
Quote from EonAon »I personally use Crested Sunmare and it is MARVELOUS.
On God-Pharaoh I think it comes out a little too much after when you want it to even with all the ramp included, admittedly the plus side is that the token stays around unlike séance, but the 4cc of séance vs the 7cc on God-pharaoh might make a difference in timing.
Teferi's protection is a great card for fogs deck. The only issue you have to recall is that you don't get leaves the battlefield or enters the battlefield effects so you equally don't get any lifegain when everything phases back in.
A card I think needs to be examined or re-examined, out of all the embalm creatures is Angel of Sanctions. I think since we don't have much removal in some respects and the fact that after bringing it back either through effect or some other means, it is still a copyable o-ring effect once we get the token out.
Quote from ZastinThePaladin »I too use Crested Sunmare and it is wonderful! Especially with Seedborn and Trostani - gain life, triggers token, untap, populate, triggers get more tokens and more life
I honestly have enjoyed God-Pharaoh's Gift more than Seance. I've found that by the time I'm wanting to cast Seance (having enough creatures in the graveyard) that I can easily cast GPG and the token is a bit more immediate/sticks around.
Teferi's Protection has been great here as well as Rootborn Defenses and Heroic Intervention. Really great ways to protect our board state!
Quote from vetkin »In my opinion, an additional Séance effect might not hurt. And though God-Pharaoh's Gift does not trigger on the opponent's turn, it does leave a somewhat formidable body unlike Seance. I am using it in my list, though it haven't appeared yet in games. I also agree with Zastin, that since we wait for our graveyard to be loaded with critters when we cast Seance, on that timing we can also cast God-Pharaoh's Gift. Just don't forget to enter combat phase
I agree with the Angel of Sanctions shoutout. It can make itself a token, giving us the ability to populate it before Séance arrives.
And I have no other words for Crested Sunmare, but G L O R I O U S.
Quote from OCPunisher »Glad to see you're finally getting back to this deck! I've had huge success with using your list as a starting point for my own, and the last few sets have given it several cards that are nearly perfect for it.
- Bramble Sovereign is a no-brainer. Unless the price tag skyrockets, there's simply no reason not to run it.
- Another recent stud is Tendershoot Dryad. In exchange for the cumbersome triple-green CC and unnecessary power/toughness on Verdant Force, we get a very strong ascend trigger that is laughably easy to achieve and a body that comes back with a Reveillark trigger.
- Although I haven't acquired it yet, Helm of the Host is another must-have. I recall an episode of a podcast that discussed it as part of a set review, and the headline was that "every time you would normally think that there's a catch, there isn't one". It's just pure upside.
- Finally, I'm interested to hear your thoughts on Regna, the Redeemer, specifically compared to Resplendent Angel. The former costs a little more, but rewards you with two bodies for each trigger, and doesn't care how much life you gain. Also, Regna doesn't have an inflated price from the Standard format.
Hope to see more of your posts in the near future!
Quote from vetkin »Nice recap as always, bob. I really want to get a hold of Bramble Sovereign. Such a good card for the deck.
By the way, I want to get your opinions on Enduring Renewal. I have been using it to good effect in my list. It gives the opponents information on what we have on hand, but it is a wrath protection and a Séance/GPG engine (the draw step trigger).