MTG Salvation

This is my Doran, the Siege Tower EDH that focuses on midrange-control, but emphasizes on suicide-tempo. Too often life is a resource that is untouched by players, but especially newer and players. For those player who don't utilize life as an alternate resource, I feel bad for those players because life is the greatest untouched resource in commander.
This deck was built to utilize all my favorite archetypes of Reanimator, Control, Suicide-Tempo, and Land destruction as a finisher.

Doran EDH ave cmc = ~2.60
Bob ave cmc (Lands included) = ~1.74


Cards in testing.

• 1x Cataclysm (I heard it wins you the game in Zur/Doran)
  
• 1x Crop Rotation (Secret tech against my graveyard meta)
  

Cards I would like to acquire to optimize Doran.

• 1x Cabal Therapy
  
• 1x Voice of Resurgence (Amazing in standard, possibly the same results for EDH?)
  

Very new list lol. I'm looking to make a reanimator packaged Doran deck also. What other win conditions have you looked at? Have you considered using swords on Doran to win? Or just comboing out?

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Very new list lol. I'm looking to make a reanimator packaged Doran deck also. What other win conditions have you looked at? Have you considered using swords on Doran to win? Or just comboing out?

I'm not sure what you are implying by my list? I don't intend on combo'n off, usually I attempt to attrition my opponents in various ways.

I have plenty of win conditions if you look at my list, I am actually in the progress of cleaning it up to organized in their appropriate categories.
My meta is filled with artifact removal, so swords would just Time Walk myself. I tap out on turn 3 to cast my sword and equip it...just to get my creature die to spot removal or my sword get blown up in response to the attack step.

I totally forgot to add Treefolk Harbinger to my list, I will make space for it soon. Right now, I just need to test if my curve is too low or high. I need to count to see if I have too much clutter in the 2-4 cmc slot. I've learned from playing Elder Dragon Highlander for 4 years now, having 22 three cmc spells makes it awkward to cast your spells in time and setting up your turns without messing up your spell order.
The last thing I want to do is lose the game due to simple play mistakes and improper deck building.

Oh sorry when I first looked at it there were only like 20 cards in the whole list. But yeah looking at it now looks more solid.

Far from a stax expert, but I figured I'd at least try to contribute.

Maybe Gaddock Teeg or Elspeth, Sun's Champion?

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Far from a stax expert, but I figured I'd at least try to contribute.

Maybe Gaddock Teeg or Elspeth, Sun's Champion?

I am currently revamping the entire list. I need to make space for Treefolk Harbinger, Gaddock Teeg, Hypnotic Specter and I need to figure out if I have too much spot removal.

I want to make this deck competitve and not fold to any archetypes especially Blue/Black Control or Reaniamtor or Combo.

I dislike proxies, so I need to see of I find/buy Teeg for cheap. Proxing is okay to me if you intend of testing for standard, Modern, legacy or need to test out new cards. Pther.tham that, nope not allowed.

Alright, so I've revamped the list and it works a lot better than Sharuum does. Playing 6 consecutive games with my friends, and Doran performed much better than Sharuum.

Latest changes
+ Gaddock Teeg
+ Treefolk Harbinger

I haven't piloted your deck, so I wouldn't know how it plays out in various situations but is there any reason Elesh Norn isn't in the deck? She's a 7 drop but synergizes with everything your deck wants to do.

How does Bane of Progress work? It looks like it would hose a fair number of cards in your deck.

I thought I'd give you my spin on your deck, Bacon. I've been tweaking a stax-tempo build in the Junk colors myself..



I have no revised lands at this time nor fetches, so my manabase is fixed through filter lands, shocks and various others. I need time to test the mana, it's a little heavy in favor of green right now when it should be in black.

Notable omissions:

Bane of Progress - Gets the immediate ax in this deck for me. Killing off all of our manarocks and utility pieces to bust out one bomb that can be removed for one white is just bad magic. It completely goes against the land removal win condition. It should not be in this deck, there are better options for board wipes (Austere Command).

Obzedat, Ghost Council - I get that you're trying to use him as a wrath-proof creature but I feel as though there are better bombs. Also, he detaches from Batterskull and it would just be really super awkward to have only him attached to Batterskull on the board when you're about to Armageddon/Desolation Angel. Also, wouldn't you rather just tutor up Wurmcoil Engine, Sun Titan or Grave Titan instead of this dude for your game finisher? He just feels awkward and misplaced.

Liliana of the Veil, Mind Twist, Identity Crisis - Pox, Necrogen Mists, Bottomless Pit seem better. Planeswalkers are susceptible to more removal than enchantments and Pox is an absolute house. Identity Crisis is solid graveyard removal but with Nihil Spellbomb and Tormod's Crypt (which are able to be returned to play with Sun Titan) I think you've got that covered. I don't really touch hand removal in my version of the deck and I'd rather attrition people out of the game by other means. What does their hand size matter if we resolve Desolation Angel or Armageddon?

Mortify vs Vindicate - Vindicate is strictly better.

Abrupt Decay - Not sold on this card in multiplayer but it isn't 'bad'. I just don't know if it makes the main list for me.

Nature's Claim, Return to Dust - You must face an incredibly enchantment/artifact heavy field of decks. I think you devote at least 6 cards to removing them. At that point I might consider dropping a couple for Austere Command.

Notable inclusions:

Reveillark, Karmic Guide - Seems like the perfect deck for these two. So many interactions with Reanimate Dead, Necromancy, Eternal Witness, Sun Titan, etc.

Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite - Synergy with Doran, beefs up your tokens and others, shuts down token-based decks.

Loxodon Gatekeeper, Blind Obedience - Root Maze and Orb of Dreams that don't affect you!

Cards in consideration:

Doubling Season - Doubles up planeswalkers, Bitterblossom, Grave Titan, Smokestack, Coalition Relic. I don't think there are enough interactions to justify play. Might mess around with it all the same!

Austere Command - I might like it better than Terminus, but with Sylvan Library and Sensei's Divining Top it is so easy to manipulate a 1 mana Terminus. I'll probably have Command in a maybeboard pile of cards that I can bring in for games to playtest.

Newly updated list with cheap targeted discard like many of you have mentioned. Thanks for the help.

I actually just removed Mortify and Return to Dust from my list because I had 11 ways to destroy enchantments, so I felt that 11 is excessive. I only dropped two artifact/enchantment removal for card draw in the form of Garruk, Primal Hunter and hand disruption, Thoughtseize.

@Vault of the Archangel; it was win more like many of you have said before. I just learned how bad it screws up my draws when I get hands of 4 colourless lands. I only run 32 lands in the first place, so I increased my chances of drawing lands that produces colours by adding by slightly shifting my land base for new additions.

Doran ave cmc = ~2.59
Bob ave cmc (Lands included) = ~1.74

Do you feel your bombs are big enough? And what about skull clamp in here to help with bitter blossom?

+ Restoration Angel
+ Necropotence

- Batterskull
- Thoughtseize

I am will make space for Batterskull since I added in Necropotence. Adding Necropotence makes the games really hard; I already suicide really hard. So having the ability to pay 20 life on turn 3 is really tempting. I never thought how much I missed life gain, but I need some seriously life gain.

I will be adding Baneslayer Angel and/or Batterskull soon. If I decide to add in Umezawa's Jitte, I will add in Stoneforge Mystic since she's pretty darn good against a control meta.

My bombs are big enough. I honestly only run out my bombs really early so you can't deal with it. Like turn 3 Grave Titan/Sun Titan and turn 4 Armageddon.
I run out my bombs when it's required, whether it be to stabilize or takeover the game.

I thought about running Skullclamp, you think it would be an auto include, but it's not in my decks.

Why do you feel that Bitterblossom is bad by itself? Please tell me your reasoning.
It upkeeps Braids/Smokestack lock.
It chumps Skittles all day
It makes flying generals without trample look like paperweight
It trades with V. Clique and Goblin Assault Tokens
You can use them for Trading Post
They are Thraximundar fodder
I barely see enchantment removal

How do you deal with 5 1/1 Flying Faeries after a Jokulhaups has resolved?

Those reasons are enough to never from Bitterblossom from any of my list.