I don't know if you want to include this anywhere or if it was mentioned anywhere in these 14 pages, but tainted strike is a really nasty trick with Prossh
Yeah, it's a nasty trick, but I have some problems with it. First, it's kinda mean, but that's really not a good reason. I'd think about putting in my deck, but with just a few creatures it only get used on Prossh. Usually, I never win with Prossh attacking though, I use him to combo out, or get enough creatures to win with a Craterhoof Behemoth, so Tainted Strike doesn't work there either. For that reason I just cast it aside in favor of cards that function a little better with the deck.
With more fatties in the deck though, and if you win with Prossh attacking a lot, then it can be a good addition. Just be prepared for your friends hating you.
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Tainted Strike is also a hilarious political card, because giving your opponents voltron general infect to kill off another opponent is quite humorous.
Natural Order is always great, and is great at getting some nice green mega creatures like Avenger of Zendikar, and Craterhoof Behemoth. Needing to sacrifice a green creature makes it a little awkward in a 3 color deck, but it's playable in a creature heavy deck (which mine is not really, I need Prossh to produce tokens)
Earthcraft is good too, but I cut it in favor of some more removal, and combo pieces/tutors.
I don't see any good reason not to run either if you have them laying around and can make room.
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Cryptolith Rite seems really strong in any token deck, with haste it's pretty nice that Prossh pays for himself with the Kobold tokens. It basically gives everything convoke (supposing your creatures have haste), which is pretty awesome.
Combine that with Westvale Abbey and you've got two giant fliers the turn Prossh enters play. Seems custom-made for Prossh.
Second Harvest seems strong, too, but with so many doubling effects I don't know if it's always worth a slot. Being able to double (or quintuple, with Doubling Season or Parallel Lives) tokens as a combat trick seems handy, though. Like, Prossh + Six Kobolds, Swing, Your opponent doesn't block and suddenly Prossh is a kill next turn. With one of the other doublers in play, it's a kill from nowhere.
Arlinn Kord seems like a good fit for Prossh especially. Human side beefs up Prossh, Werewolf side plays toward the tokens.
It has been of great help to me. Several of your core cards I almost did not consider, partly because of money problems and partly because I plainly did not know they existed. But now, I am at a crossroads. I feel the deck has had a lot of improvement, but I feel it's rather stale now. Can you take a look and make some suggestions please? Sorry if I am breaching rules, kinda new to the forum.
I know playtesting is better, but this deck is like 2 years old, and can't seem to improve on it =(.
Your deck seems more aligned with Feverous' style of Prossh, which is fine, but I don't really run that style, and that makes me a little bit of a worse judge on it.
I'll be honest here, and it may be obvious with how this primer hasn't been updated in a while (I'm surprised it's still labeled as such to be honest) but I've grown to the same conclusion as you. It's a bit stale. I still have the deck, and I still love it, but it is a tough deck to take in new directions without massive overhauls. This is a problem with all EDH decks, but we are really down to just waiting to see if new cards come out with each set. A few have, and the previous poster listed a few good choice. I really think Cryptolith Rite has a good slot in the deck. You can also try adding Second Harvest
I think your list is pretty solid, and would only make changes based on what you have to deal with in your meta. Though I would take out Primal Growth for Wood Elves. I really think Primal Growth is a terrible card. The only other choices I would make would be changes I assume you can't do for budget reasons, like Crux of Fate for Damnation. Maybe Toxic Deluge is cheap enough now to include? That card is amazing.
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Your deck seems more aligned with Feverous' style of Prossh, which is fine, but I don't really run that style, and that makes me a little bit of a worse judge on it.
I'll be honest here, and it may be obvious with how this primer hasn't been updated in a while (I'm surprised it's still labeled as such to be honest) but I've grown to the same conclusion as you. It's a bit stale. I still have the deck, and I still love it, but it is a tough deck to take in new directions without massive overhauls. This is a problem with all EDH decks, but we are really down to just waiting to see if new cards come out with each set. A few have, and the previous poster listed a few good choice. I really think Cryptolith Rite has a good slot in the deck. You can also try adding Second Harvest
I think your list is pretty solid, and would only make changes based on what you have to deal with in your meta. Though I would take out Primal Growth for Wood Elves. I really think Primal Growth is a terrible card. The only other choices I would make would be changes I assume you can't do for budget reasons, like Crux of Fate for Damnation. Maybe Toxic Deluge is cheap enough now to include? That card is amazing.
Some people actually told me that the TRONing Prossh plan is rather dangerous, and that I should focus on the token aspect. Cards like Uncaged Fury and Assault Strobe would have to go. But thank you for the compliment. =)
As for the money inquiry, yes, I am a bit short on it right now. But I am trying to sell some cardboard so I can grab a few more staples. Although too many of them stales your deck even more.
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It's no Craterhoof Behemoth, but is an interesting alternative. I don't think a deck needs two Craterhoofs. That being said, Craterhoof is getting very expensive and if this is cheaper than it I can see this becoming pretty common.
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Not sure how active this thread is. I have been playing Prossh since I started commander. Recently I got in a trade Defense of the Heartand have heard that it sometimes makes an inclusion on some lists. My question would be. What to grab and cut or just toss it somewhere else?
Yes,it could certainly be.
I actually just built a Mazirek deck instead of putting my only copy in Prossh, but I need to look into adding it as well.
Expect a set review for the commander set in the coming days. I've been super busy lately.
Yeah, it's a nasty trick, but I have some problems with it. First, it's kinda mean, but that's really not a good reason. I'd think about putting in my deck, but with just a few creatures it only get used on Prossh. Usually, I never win with Prossh attacking though, I use him to combo out, or get enough creatures to win with a Craterhoof Behemoth, so Tainted Strike doesn't work there either. For that reason I just cast it aside in favor of cards that function a little better with the deck.
With more fatties in the deck though, and if you win with Prossh attacking a lot, then it can be a good addition. Just be prepared for your friends hating you.
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Earthcraft is good too, but I cut it in favor of some more removal, and combo pieces/tutors.
I don't see any good reason not to run either if you have them laying around and can make room.
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Combine that with Westvale Abbey and you've got two giant fliers the turn Prossh enters play. Seems custom-made for Prossh.
Second Harvest seems strong, too, but with so many doubling effects I don't know if it's always worth a slot. Being able to double (or quintuple, with Doubling Season or Parallel Lives) tokens as a combat trick seems handy, though. Like, Prossh + Six Kobolds, Swing, Your opponent doesn't block and suddenly Prossh is a kill next turn. With one of the other doublers in play, it's a kill from nowhere.
Arlinn Kord seems like a good fit for Prossh especially. Human side beefs up Prossh, Werewolf side plays toward the tokens.
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It has been of great help to me. Several of your core cards I almost did not consider, partly because of money problems and partly because I plainly did not know they existed. But now, I am at a crossroads. I feel the deck has had a lot of improvement, but I feel it's rather stale now. Can you take a look and make some suggestions please? Sorry if I am breaching rules, kinda new to the forum.
I know playtesting is better, but this deck is like 2 years old, and can't seem to improve on it =(.
1x Prossh, Skyraider of Kher
Creature (28)
1x Acidic Slime
1x Anger
1x Avenger of Zendikar
1x Birds of Paradise
1x Blood Artist
1x Burnished Hart
1x Butcher of Malakir
1x Catacomb Sifter
1x Craterhoof Behemoth
1x Dragon Broodmother
1x Eternal Witness
1x Fleshbag Marauder
1x Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
1x Llanowar Elves
1x Mikaeus, the Unhallowed
1x Molten Primordial
1x Ophiomancer
1x Oracle of Mul Daya
1x Phyrexian Plaguelord
1x Purphoros, God of the Forge
1x Sakura-Tribe Elder
1x Smothering Abomination
1x Sprouting Thrinax
1x Sylvan Caryatid
1x Vexing Shusher
1x Woodfall Primus
1x Xenagos, God of Revels
1x Yavimaya Elder
1x Beast Within
1x Fresh Meat
1x Krosan Grip
1x Putrefy
1x Uncaged Fury
Land (36)
1x Blighted Woodland
1x Blood Crypt
1x Bloodstained Mire
1x Bojuka Bog
1x Cinder Glade
1x Command Tower
6x Forest
1x Golgari Guildgate
1x Golgari Rot Farm
1x Grim Backwoods
1x Jund Panorama
1x Khalni Garden
1x Kher Keep
1x Llanowar Reborn
1x Mosswort Bridge
5x Mountain
1x Opal Palace
1x Savage Lands
1x Smoldering Marsh
6x Swamp
1x Temple of the False God
1x Wooded Foothills
Enchantment (10)
1x Attrition
1x Awakening Zone
1x Beastmaster Ascension
1x Doubling Season
1x Fecundity
1x Food Chain
1x Goblin Bombardment
1x Impact Tremors
1x Parallel Lives
1x Pattern of Rebirth
1x Garruk, Primal Hunter
Sorcery (10)
1x Assault Strobe
1x Black Sun's Zenith
1x Crux of Fate
1x Decree of Pain
1x Diabolic Tutor
1x Dread Return
1x Genesis Wave
1x Green Sun's Zenith
1x Primal Growth
1x Tempt with Vengeance
Artifact (9)
1x Ashnod's Altar
1x Chromatic Lantern
1x Commander's Sphere
1x Golgari Signet
1x Lightning Greaves
1x Mimic Vat
1x Phyrexian Altar
1x Skullclamp
1x Sol Ring
Your deck seems more aligned with Feverous' style of Prossh, which is fine, but I don't really run that style, and that makes me a little bit of a worse judge on it.
I'll be honest here, and it may be obvious with how this primer hasn't been updated in a while (I'm surprised it's still labeled as such to be honest) but I've grown to the same conclusion as you. It's a bit stale. I still have the deck, and I still love it, but it is a tough deck to take in new directions without massive overhauls. This is a problem with all EDH decks, but we are really down to just waiting to see if new cards come out with each set. A few have, and the previous poster listed a few good choice. I really think Cryptolith Rite has a good slot in the deck. You can also try adding Second Harvest
I think your list is pretty solid, and would only make changes based on what you have to deal with in your meta. Though I would take out Primal Growth for Wood Elves. I really think Primal Growth is a terrible card. The only other choices I would make would be changes I assume you can't do for budget reasons, like Crux of Fate for Damnation. Maybe Toxic Deluge is cheap enough now to include? That card is amazing.
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Some people actually told me that the TRONing Prossh plan is rather dangerous, and that I should focus on the token aspect. Cards like Uncaged Fury and Assault Strobe would have to go. But thank you for the compliment. =)
As for the money inquiry, yes, I am a bit short on it right now. But I am trying to sell some cardboard so I can grab a few more staples. Although too many of them stales your deck even more.
BChainer, Dementia Master(Big Mana/Reanimator)
BRRakdos, The Showstopper (Mass Life Loss/Ramp)
BUThe Scarab God (Zombie Tribal/Control)
BWKarlov of the Ghost Council (Life Gain)
BGJarad, Golgari Lich Lord (Stompy/Dredge)
BRGProssh, Skyraider of Kher (Tokens/Non-infinite Combo)
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BChainer, Dementia Master(Big Mana/Reanimator)
BRRakdos, The Showstopper (Mass Life Loss/Ramp)
BUThe Scarab God (Zombie Tribal/Control)
BWKarlov of the Ghost Council (Life Gain)
BGJarad, Golgari Lich Lord (Stompy/Dredge)
BRGProssh, Skyraider of Kher (Tokens/Non-infinite Combo)
Here is my list
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/prossh-skyrider-of-kher-2/
So far it consistently places in top 3 each week depending on the table.