This is an awesome deck. I've always been a fan of mono-red and this really does it for me. How about Puppet's Verdict? It seems like a decent wrath in this deck, especially with the Thumb.
Emmara is like the worst parts of Legends and Homelands got pregnant, aborted the fetus, tossed it in the trashcan, set it on fire and wrapped the corpse in a Dragon's Maze pack wrapper.
Boseiju - yup, when i reupdate the front page i'll be putting that in, i tried it out, and found it awesome.
Reverberate - See above.
Puppet's Verdict - it was originally in here, but dropped because without the thumb, i never get what i want, and it backfired often. With the thumb, it's a lot better, yeah. It could go in, depending on your tastes/budget
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Tantarus: It didn't make the gaka greifer level, so it should be fine
It can handle both fairly easily - just know that you'll need a slightly quicker hand in 1v1 than you might need for multiplayer - and finding disruption quickly is key.
The next update will be adding some acceleration that will boost its performance in 1v1 play.
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Tantarus: It didn't make the gaka greifer level, so it should be fine
just wanted to let you know that I'm going to try this one on my friends next week... I'll let you know if they liked it... seems like fun - also your Hanna-deck looks wicked as well... choices choices...
was thinking of making a monoblue-control as well...
Legacy UBG LEDless Ichorid UBG Casual X Endless Myr X GW Leylines GW UG Simic GroUG EDH G Molimo, Maro-Sorcerer G B Iname, Death Aspect B BG Thelon of Havenwood BG
If you like this - i'm working on a U/R SwerveDeckWins Chaos/Control deck, which promises to do well vs combo decks, and is fairly effective against aggro.
It's a very different style.
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Tantarus: It didn't make the gaka greifer level, so it should be fine
You have my utmost attention on the swerve deck wins. I look forward to it.
I love mono red decks, and yours is most awesome. I would normally make a suggestion, but your list is just so tight. Goodwork:)
No, suggest away. The more ideas that float around means the deck can get even better. Some engines might run better than others, and if i dont know about it, nothing will change.
Granted, some might be tucked away for a set or two until something that complements it comes out - but at least it's out there.
I will even hear stupid suggestions, this deck thrives on stupidity.
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Tantarus: It didn't make the gaka greifer level, so it should be fine
Have you considered Pyrohemia? When you have Norin out, all you have to do is wait for them to cast a spell or attack (or you could attack on your turn), and then after Norin is gone, you can burn down the entire field. Norin should come back in time to keep Pyrohemia around so you can repeat whenever necessary.
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"Of course you should fight fire with fire. You should fight everything with fire." —Jaya Ballard, task mage
Yesterday we went for a full 2.5 hours of EDH multiplay in which I dominated the battlefield for about 3/4th of the time with a simple Shattering Pulse - also thx to my opponent's Mycosynth Lattice, and he was so proud to have it on the table so quickly... Muhahaa!
So I've added some cards to this deck... not sure what I left out though :/
Added;
Illicit Auction (always big fun fighting over an opponent's Eldrazi) Extraplanar Lens (helped me out a lot to kickstart it somewhat faster)
Love Norin btw! Thinking of building a "normal" deck around him...
One question though; why the painlands? & not just other snowcovered mountains? Seems a bit daft to me, while playing monored... Or am I missing something here? Or is this just for shuffling's sake?
Shuffling's sake, and also because i'm a true sucker for them. No real reason past that.
As for your additions - we think along the same lines. I had both of those in at one point but i cut both for simple reasons:
Auction - Too expensive, though still hillarious. I did have some good times with it and Radiate... (oh my god, the nightmares) but i'm cutting down on the giant stuff that might not do anything.
Lens - had this in the deck, but i had a problem with getting 2 for 1'd all the time. With the mana acceleration i've added to the deck, these pure mana doublers arent needed as much (Mana Flare was in here too)
Testing out some changes!
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Tantarus: It didn't make the gaka greifer level, so it should be fine
Had a fairly interesting couple of games with Khymera on Cockatrice, and we discussed ways to make Norin a decent 1v1 general. Since Norin already is fairly disruptive and runs a token sub-theme, why not base off of that?
As a result, fun suckers like Goblin Marshal are making an appearance, as well as Stingscourger (disruption) and the cutting of some fairly uninteresting cards.
yesterday we went for Norin again... Marvellous gameplay once more... First game got manascrewed as hell... Second game ruled the table with the manticore and both swords attached to it... Uberlucky with the Mana Crypt, only twice did I receive the damage - the coin almost looked biased...
Anywayz other then that, the cloudstone is a superb find! really... awesome! another way to put Norin to some good use...
Not too sure about the Marshall though, he's quite expensive no? And the stinger - why not destroy lands so they just don't reach gameplay... With cards like Ravenous Baboons or Avalanche Riders... Bounce bounce & Kiki-Jiki...
Stinger doesnt bounce lands, he bounces creatures. 2 mana removal on a stick!
I've put Riders in, and it's fairly nasty. With curio up, it's like a 4 mana strip mine every turn.
Marshall is a tad on the expensive side, yeah. But, Since it triggers both when it comes in and leaves play... you can do some snazzy stuff. Like bounce it with cloudstone for tokens everywhere. Let's not get started with what it does with Kiki. Due to the extra costs associated with these, i've added a couple more mana rocks to offset the flow of tokens.
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Tantarus: It didn't make the gaka greifer level, so it should be fine
As thursdaynight is our mtg-night, had some fun once more with Norin...
So I've added Illicit Auction and watched my fellow players bid like crazy for that silly Ulamog eldrazi guy - up to a total of 27 lifepoints... You can have it for that and afterwards I'll just take it with my Helm of Possession... Muha!
It was a close one, but I've managed, finishing kill was when Kiki Jiki went berserk with Pandemonium on stage...
Firstly - way to go with illicit auction! I was originally using it in conjuction with Radiate, but after that was cut due to narrow usage (sorry coko) illicit auction held less and less appeal. Glad to see it's still used by someone
Goblin bomb was in here for a short time, but i was soon targeted like crazy to get rid of it, because i am "my own Krark's Thumb" - Khymera. When it did go off unmolested though... weeeeeee dead player!
Karplusan Minotaur was in here until someone figured out they can kill norin with it, as well as a couple of my x/1 utilities. That just wont do, so i cut it. However, for those with less utility creatures than mine, the minotaur is king of destruction! Run him!
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Tantarus: It didn't make the gaka greifer level, so it should be fine
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Numerous other people are, to put it mildly, not happy with Norin
EDH:
RNorin the WaryR <-Link! (Primer - Mono Red Control)
GUEdric, Spymaster of TrestUG <- Link! (Mini-Primer - Dredge)
Duel Commander:
WUGeist of Saint TraftUW <- Link! (Aggro-Control)
BGSkullbriar, the Walking GraveGB <- Link! (Aggro)
BUGDamia, Sage of StoneGUB <- Link! (Extinction Control)
Church of the Wary
Reverberate - See above.
Puppet's Verdict - it was originally in here, but dropped because without the thumb, i never get what i want, and it backfired often. With the thumb, it's a lot better, yeah. It could go in, depending on your tastes/budget
EDH:
RNorin the WaryR <-Link! (Primer - Mono Red Control)
GUEdric, Spymaster of TrestUG <- Link! (Mini-Primer - Dredge)
Duel Commander:
WUGeist of Saint TraftUW <- Link! (Aggro-Control)
BGSkullbriar, the Walking GraveGB <- Link! (Aggro)
BUGDamia, Sage of StoneGUB <- Link! (Extinction Control)
Church of the Wary
The next update will be adding some acceleration that will boost its performance in 1v1 play.
EDH:
RNorin the WaryR <-Link! (Primer - Mono Red Control)
GUEdric, Spymaster of TrestUG <- Link! (Mini-Primer - Dredge)
Duel Commander:
WUGeist of Saint TraftUW <- Link! (Aggro-Control)
BGSkullbriar, the Walking GraveGB <- Link! (Aggro)
BUGDamia, Sage of StoneGUB <- Link! (Extinction Control)
Church of the Wary
was thinking of making a monoblue-control as well...
Either way; Gaka love your stuff!
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Now, for your enjoyment - Norin's been updated!
Fun Toys:
Acceleration in the form of Mana Vault, Mox Diamond, and Mox Opal!
Aftershock and Reverberate are in!
Plus - an all new, horribly incomplete Pseudo-mini primer.
When i have more time, i will expand it into a full-fledged book about how to win with Norin the Almighty.
EDH:
RNorin the WaryR <-Link! (Primer - Mono Red Control)
GUEdric, Spymaster of TrestUG <- Link! (Mini-Primer - Dredge)
Duel Commander:
WUGeist of Saint TraftUW <- Link! (Aggro-Control)
BGSkullbriar, the Walking GraveGB <- Link! (Aggro)
BUGDamia, Sage of StoneGUB <- Link! (Extinction Control)
Church of the Wary
Also, Gaka, great deck. I love the unique play-style. I'm thinking of building something similar very similar.
Thanks to [High~Light Studios] for the awesome sig.
My Lists:
UBG LEDless Ichorid UBG
Casual
X Endless Myr X
GW Leylines GW
UG Simic GroUG
EDH
G Molimo, Maro-Sorcerer G
B Iname, Death Aspect B
BG Thelon of Havenwood BG
If you like this - i'm working on a U/R SwerveDeckWins Chaos/Control deck, which promises to do well vs combo decks, and is fairly effective against aggro.
It's a very different style.
EDH:
RNorin the WaryR <-Link! (Primer - Mono Red Control)
GUEdric, Spymaster of TrestUG <- Link! (Mini-Primer - Dredge)
Duel Commander:
WUGeist of Saint TraftUW <- Link! (Aggro-Control)
BGSkullbriar, the Walking GraveGB <- Link! (Aggro)
BUGDamia, Sage of StoneGUB <- Link! (Extinction Control)
Church of the Wary
I love mono red decks, and yours is most awesome. I would normally make a suggestion, but your list is just so tight. Goodwork:)
Granted, some might be tucked away for a set or two until something that complements it comes out - but at least it's out there.
I will even hear stupid suggestions, this deck thrives on stupidity.
EDH:
RNorin the WaryR <-Link! (Primer - Mono Red Control)
GUEdric, Spymaster of TrestUG <- Link! (Mini-Primer - Dredge)
Duel Commander:
WUGeist of Saint TraftUW <- Link! (Aggro-Control)
BGSkullbriar, the Walking GraveGB <- Link! (Aggro)
BUGDamia, Sage of StoneGUB <- Link! (Extinction Control)
Church of the Wary
The screw especially with chance encounter, a quick win
Neheb
Marath
Yidris
Sharuum
Yidris
So I've added some cards to this deck... not sure what I left out though :/
Added;
Illicit Auction (always big fun fighting over an opponent's Eldrazi)
Extraplanar Lens (helped me out a lot to kickstart it somewhat faster)
Love Norin btw! Thinking of building a "normal" deck around him...
One question though; why the painlands? & not just other snowcovered mountains? Seems a bit daft to me, while playing monored... Or am I missing something here? Or is this just for shuffling's sake?
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As for your additions - we think along the same lines. I had both of those in at one point but i cut both for simple reasons:
Auction - Too expensive, though still hillarious. I did have some good times with it and Radiate... (oh my god, the nightmares) but i'm cutting down on the giant stuff that might not do anything.
Lens - had this in the deck, but i had a problem with getting 2 for 1'd all the time. With the mana acceleration i've added to the deck, these pure mana doublers arent needed as much (Mana Flare was in here too)
Testing out some changes!
EDH:
RNorin the WaryR <-Link! (Primer - Mono Red Control)
GUEdric, Spymaster of TrestUG <- Link! (Mini-Primer - Dredge)
Duel Commander:
WUGeist of Saint TraftUW <- Link! (Aggro-Control)
BGSkullbriar, the Walking GraveGB <- Link! (Aggro)
BUGDamia, Sage of StoneGUB <- Link! (Extinction Control)
Church of the Wary
As a result, fun suckers like Goblin Marshal are making an appearance, as well as Stingscourger (disruption) and the cutting of some fairly uninteresting cards.
Also - a gem i can't believe i missed:
Cloudstone Curio
I'll leave that there so you can think of all the wonderful possibilities it brings with Norin.
EDH:
RNorin the WaryR <-Link! (Primer - Mono Red Control)
GUEdric, Spymaster of TrestUG <- Link! (Mini-Primer - Dredge)
Duel Commander:
WUGeist of Saint TraftUW <- Link! (Aggro-Control)
BGSkullbriar, the Walking GraveGB <- Link! (Aggro)
BUGDamia, Sage of StoneGUB <- Link! (Extinction Control)
Church of the Wary
Anywayz other then that, the cloudstone is a superb find! really... awesome!
Not too sure about the Marshall though, he's quite expensive no? And the stinger - why not destroy lands so they just don't reach gameplay... With cards like Ravenous Baboons or Avalanche Riders... Bounce bounce & Kiki-Jiki...
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I've put Riders in, and it's fairly nasty. With curio up, it's like a 4 mana strip mine every turn.
Marshall is a tad on the expensive side, yeah. But, Since it triggers both when it comes in and leaves play... you can do some snazzy stuff. Like bounce it with cloudstone for tokens everywhere. Let's not get started with what it does with Kiki. Due to the extra costs associated with these, i've added a couple more mana rocks to offset the flow of tokens.
EDH:
RNorin the WaryR <-Link! (Primer - Mono Red Control)
GUEdric, Spymaster of TrestUG <- Link! (Mini-Primer - Dredge)
Duel Commander:
WUGeist of Saint TraftUW <- Link! (Aggro-Control)
BGSkullbriar, the Walking GraveGB <- Link! (Aggro)
BUGDamia, Sage of StoneGUB <- Link! (Extinction Control)
Church of the Wary
So I've added Illicit Auction and watched my fellow players bid like crazy for that silly Ulamog eldrazi guy - up to a total of 27 lifepoints... You can have it for that and afterwards I'll just take it with my Helm of Possession... Muha!
It was a close one, but I've managed, finishing kill was when Kiki Jiki went berserk with Pandemonium on stage...
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EDIT: Also did we ever discuss Karplusan Minotaur? Or is that just a little bit too much?
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Goblin bomb was in here for a short time, but i was soon targeted like crazy to get rid of it, because i am "my own Krark's Thumb" - Khymera. When it did go off unmolested though... weeeeeee dead player!
Karplusan Minotaur was in here until someone figured out they can kill norin with it, as well as a couple of my x/1 utilities. That just wont do, so i cut it. However, for those with less utility creatures than mine, the minotaur is king of destruction! Run him!
EDH:
RNorin the WaryR <-Link! (Primer - Mono Red Control)
GUEdric, Spymaster of TrestUG <- Link! (Mini-Primer - Dredge)
Duel Commander:
WUGeist of Saint TraftUW <- Link! (Aggro-Control)
BGSkullbriar, the Walking GraveGB <- Link! (Aggro)
BUGDamia, Sage of StoneGUB <- Link! (Extinction Control)
Church of the Wary