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Quote from ShinrikoI suggest you don't run Humility. It is a great card, has a huge effect, and would most likely be benifical to you if you get it out. Don't run it, between annoying folks and causing rules questions I have found it to be not worth the effort.
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Doubling Season + Elspeth. Makes all my permanents ( except Elspeth ) indestructible for the rest of the game right away.
Quote from JeskaI just wanted to let you know that this combo doesn't work. Elspeth adds counters as a cost, not an effect.
Quote from King PunI was going to equip my third sword of war and peace on one of my creatures but my opponent said that was illegal because my creature only has 2 arms.
Quote from NecrosedWaif first. It's pretty much a red Delver of Secrets.
Quote from VermyWhile that is a good point, from the wording of his comment ((indestructible for the rest of the game right away)) I think he is under the impression that doubling season doubles the amount of counters on permanents when they come into play with counters on them or something like that.
Because even if adding loyalty was an effect it still wouldn't be "right away"
Regardless, it still doesn't work.
Quote from CrumpusAlso needs a Crovax and Primal Command.
I agree: it works.
Quote from ludd_gangWha??? No Crush or Wurms or Roar of the Wurm?
Not knocking your deck, but it looks like good stuff with a relatively small amount of token generation (about a dozen cards). To fully utilize Rhys, I'd add some things that make big tokens, elephants and beasts. Garruk, CotH, stuff like that. Of course, I am a pretty casual player too.
I also like Angel of Salvation, Wall of Roots, Ajani Goldmane and other convokey stuff with tokens.
On that note, I see a couple cards I need to check my deck for. I really need a Doubling Season, but they are so dang expensive.
Quote from CrumpusNeeds a Deadwood Treefolk, that guys AWSOME
Quote from Donald_McDonaldAccording to the comprehensive rules when the planeswalker comes into play the counters are put on it as a replacement effect meaning Elspeth would come into play with 8 counters and could immediately ultimate. Am I reading this incorrectly? Think it is rule 212.9.
Quote from cheddercavemanYes, that works. The adding of counters being the cost rather than the effect has no change, but the comes into play with counters would mean those get doubled. Similar to how the 0/0 Simic creatures from Rav-Block would come into play twice as big.
Not sure why the list does not include Garruk or Ajani goldmane. Goldmane might be underwhelming but in cases where you dump a bunch of tokens, and use the Vigilance ability, things can get stupid. Garruk should be included since he accelerates with cradle, and with a doubling season in play, you can use the ultimate right away.
I personally play with Storm Herd since that card is seriously retarded when resolved. Not to mention you have pump effects. Storm Herd is more casual-broken. I would opt for Decree of Justice as a more serious-environment win-condition for either instant EOT Soldier cycling or dropping loads of Angels after a Wrath effect.
Rhys has definitely been a blast, and I'm not sure if Crovax + Kahmahl is worth running. I might give it a shot. In my group, Kahmahl is risky due to control magic effects, so broken plays with him tend to fireback on myself. Stone rain for G is definitely retarded. How often do you pull the Mirror Entity Gilt-leaf druid combo? I'm very curious with that combo. Lark combos in your deck seems really good too. I might opt for that route too.
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1. Survival of the Fittest. By itself it can dump Mirror Entity, Karmic Guide, Yosei and Saffi in the graveyard leaving Reveillark in my hand. If I can evoke it unimpeded I can Yosei lock my opponents. If Yosei gets RFG but I have the other pieces I can gain infinite life with Loxodon Hierarch, draw my graveyard with Eternal Witness and draw my library with Skullmulcher.
2. Gilt-Leaf Liege + Mirror Entity + tokens. Mirror Entity makes all my tokens druids and I can start taking peoples land.
Quote from dapoonkWhat is combo 2? gilt leaf liege?
Quote from RileyChoke is an interesting choice. Are there a lot of mono-blue decks in your meta? If so, then BLARGH how maddening. I feel lucky that there's not much of that where I play.
Quote from B1ind FremenBump, for great justice!
Have any of you considered cards like Wirewood Symbiote and Quirion Ranger to bounce all your 187 elves? For this reason alone, I have kept Viridian Shaman over Qasali Pridemage. I also play Elvish Visionary, which has been excellent. Here's my current list:
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General1 Rhys, the RedeemedCreatures1 Wirewood Symbiote1 Saffi Eriksdotter1 Gaddock Teeg1 Elvish Visionary1 Thelonite Hermit1 Viridian Shaman1 Eternal Witness1 Yavimaya Elder1 Mirror Entity1 Knight of Reliquary1 Solemn Simulacrum1 Deranged Hermit1 Genesis1 Archon of Justice1 Mycoloth1 Skullmulcher1 Duplicant1 Crovax, Ascendant Hero1 Kamahl, Fist of Krosa1 Eternal Dragon1 Tornado Elemental1 Regal Force1 Symbiotic Wurm1 Woodfall PrimusSpells1 Sensei's Divining Top1 Swords to Plowshares1 Path to Exile1 Condemn1 Enlightened Tutor1 Skullclamp1 Sol Ring1 Night Soil1 Sprout Swarm1 Eladamri's Call1 Life from the Loam1 Regrowth1 Kodama's Reach1 Sacred Mesa1 Idyllic Tutor1 Aura Shards1 Recollect1 Loxodon Warhammer1 Darksteel Ingot1 Oblivion Stone1 Skyshroud Claim1 Return to Dust1 Glare of Subdual1 Mirari's Wake1 Primal Command1 Mind's Eye1 Restock1 Doubling Season1 Austere Command1 Tooth and Nail1 Decree of Justice1 Crush of Wurms1 Storm HerdLands9 Forest6 Plains1 Savannah1 Temple Garden1 Windswept Heath1 Bant Panarama1 Brushland1 Wooded Bastion1 Krosan Verge1 Saltcrusted Steppe1 High Market1 Miren, the Moaning Well1 Treetop Village1 Vitu-Ghazi, the City-Tree1 Nantuko Monastery1 Mosswart Bridge1 Temple of the False God1 Slippery Karst1 Tranquil Thicket1 Secluded Steppe1 Vesuva1 Stripmine1 Wasteland
I am starting to doubt whether Loxodon Warhammer is worth running over something like Noble Purpose, or if I should even run those cards at all.
I love the ideas in this thread. Keep 'em coming!