Yeah it has been said and yes you could easily build this deck on a budget however it's cards like bazaar and Gaels cradle that allow you to to explode and take advantage of the extreme card advantage of Edric as well as the graveyard. But when I initially hilt the deck I did build it without the expensive cards and it was very fun.
Also natural order and some tutors are necessary to get the right creatures before you mill them sometimes if you mill all of your recursive cards and can't find genesis or he gets exiled then the deck can a feel super clunky.
Gaka what's your opinion on dark I depths and thespian stage or Vesuva? Seems super easy to slot in and very easy to slot in due to the ease in finding loam.
In your list would you be willing to list the absolute required cards?
I know this may seem like a bizarre suggestion, but have you tried Slate of Ancestry? I made a dredge deck with Jarad once and this card was pure cash. Discard your crap, draw and dredge with stupid efficiency. May not be necessary because your general poops card advantage, but worth mentioning nonetheless
I know this may seem like a bizarre suggestion, but have you tried Slate of Ancestry? I made a dredge deck with Jarad once and this card was pure cash. Discard your crap, draw and dredge with stupid efficiency. May not be necessary because your general poops card advantage, but worth mentioning nonetheless
i know gaka wont like it because its an artifact, but im not as stiff about artifacts. definitely interesting. and we do play a lot of creatures to make it work. only thing in this list is that we lack actual dredge cards due to color restrictions. i dont think i would run it but in that budget list it would be super sweet because it could make up for the loss of bazaar and some other hyper self mill cards
This is based off of gaka's list but i think that if it were to be a budget list it would look something like this or at least be a good place to start. must haves with *
I just started playing this deck and I love it! It's so much more resiliant than the winnie Edric, Spymaster of Trest. My deck also runs Labratory Maniac; has anyone tried running Leveler as wincon gambit/wtf moment? You'd need a little bit of setup for it to work ( a draw, a counterspell, and graveyard recovery) but I think it is workable. Any thoughts?
I have been slowly building this deck and testing it for a while and am loving every minute of it. One thing I love is that the wins are so fufilling and no one gets mad because the set up is pretty cool.
I have been looking into Theros for any possible additions and I think there may be a few possibilities.
Commune with the Gods- 1G dumps cards into grave, snags a dude or any of the nice enchantments. Pretty nice.
Bow of Nylea- 1GG makes your army a bit more threatening as well as a multitude of other things. pings x/2 fliers, gains a little life, counters up a dude, and recurrs 4 in any order to the bottom of the deck
Voyaging Satyr- 1G untaps Bazaar and Cradle nicely
Prophet of Kruphix- 3UG untaps dudes and lands or more activations etc and gives your dorks flash...seems pretty good though it is a little high cost wise maybe.
Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx- a little worse cradle but still another cradle in this deck with its mana dorks etc.
Swan Song- U stops wraths for one mana..pretty neat.
Thoughts?
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Noxious Revival could be better than Recollect since you draw so many cards with Edric. Plus, it's instant speed and you can use it even if you tap out, so if someone uses targeted graveyard removal on something you want, you can use it in response.
Just curious if anyone in here is still playing this deck and has an updated list. I was about to go through and work on an updated list myself, but figured I would see if anyone else had kept a more recent version together and playing before starting. Lots of sweet stuff from the past few sets that makes me very interested in how this deck looks now.
Just curious if anyone in here is still playing this deck and has an updated list. I was about to go through and work on an updated list myself, but figured I would see if anyone else had kept a more recent version together and playing before starting. Lots of sweet stuff from the past few sets that makes me very interested in how this deck looks now.
I still play the deck, but have not updated it in... quite some time. Very little time is available to me for theorycrafting and testing and such these days.
Ideally, the deck shouldn't have changed much over recent sets. There haven't been a whole lot of new toys to play with.
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Tantarus: It didn't make the gaka greifer level, so it should be fine
I know is not as easy to get Threshold and Life from the Loam becomes not as great (can still get back Evolving Wilds and Terramorphic Expanse though, and run additional cards like Harrow?) but the deck looks way too fun not to try >_>
Gaka sir, I made this account just to ask you this - if you could add black to this deck (using a different commander), what all would you change? What cards would you run?
i will reply to you with my experience going to sedisi or whatever but mostly playing the same theme. i played yawg will, demonic tutor, reanimate, havengul lich (with prophet of krufix itts retarded), living death, maybe some black dredge, dralnu, psychotog, nectrotic ooze, dread return. stuff like that.
also, bane of progress is literally the best possible adition because it can be natural ordered or green sun zenith'd and never blows up any artifacts because we dont play any, well i play crucible but very few enchants so it is always a bomb.
other than hermit druid into lab man being this decks saving grace, ive been playing variants of this deck for multiple years and still love it. best edh archtype
I had a really amazing win the other day when i was playing a four man with a few friends. I wanted to share it because the thread seemed a little dead and i wanted to see if anyone has tried anything new for whatever reason. anyway, life was sad... i was being kept down by the man(Linvala, Keeper of Silence) one of my friends cast a New frontiers allowing me to search all of my basic lands out of my deck. i have hermit druid on board which is currently being kept in check, so this was a little risky but i took advantage of it anyway. EOT i cast snapcaster mage tarageting cyclonic rift and bounced the Linvala, Keeper of Silence. this is where the fun starts. i activated hermit druid after the bounce and now had zero cards in library. Upkeep i activated genesis from my grave targeting laboratory maniac then flashed back memory's journeyshuffling 3 random cards. i chose narcomoeba for theatrics. then during my draw step dredged back life from the loam leaving me with zero cards in library again. i the loamed back bazaar of baghdad, lonely sandbar, and tranquil thicket, then played bazaar, cast laboratory maniac and tapped bazaar with the two cycle lands as back up for spot removal. it was a great time =] it's crazy plays like that that keep me playing this ridiculous deck. anyone else have any crazy plays with their version of dredgric?
also, has anyone tried treasure cruise or dig through time? i haven't since i hate exiling my cards, but they are always in the back of my head. i don't feel like the deck needs draw power which is why i haven't added them, but they seem way too powerful to not include.
Anybody have any updates for this list since recent sets?
I believe vyrn's prodigy is worth a slot. Didnt really notice anything else recently worth playing. Maybe the new double regrowth mythic dude or the bellower that tutors.
Maybe i will post my new updated list just to maybe get some juices flowing. Decided to play manacrypt and sol ring with null rod. Its just too powerful not to play
Hey all! I just found this deck and it seems super sweet! My favorite 2-color combo is U/G, and I love graveyard interaction. One of my first commander decks was Sidisi (Brood Tyrant), and this seems like a more streamlined and competitive version of a graveyard deck- even without being a black deck! I know this deck is very well tuned, but I think a recent card could make the cut. To any of you (especially Gaka)- is Traverse the Ulvenwald effective enough to make the deck? This is not technically a dead card early, but becomes an absolute powerhouse once you establish delirium, which isn't that hard in this deck. With delirium online, this basically is a strictly better Worldly Tutor. Any ways, I love the deck, and thanks for sharing it!
Anyone still playing this deck? I have been playing a similar list for about 5 years now. Just wanted to take some time to see if anyone has made any meaningful upgrades?
I played the deck for awhile after I stopped playing the flying men.dec
Eventually just turned into a Sidisi deck though since the self-mill plan is just easier to facilitate with black cards. I can definitely comment that World Shaper is a ridiculous card.
World Shaper definitely makes things happen. Especially when combined with Lotus Cobra. Its almost as good as a cradle activation. It has closed out 2 games for me.
I thought about changing over to Sidisi when she was released, but decided not to because the deck would change too much. Having consistent draw power in the command zone is just too good IMO. Also, the only way I see her working would be to take out most of my looting effects and add in more draw to take advantage of the increased dredgers. Honestly, I just don't see it being faster or as out of left field as a U/G dredge deck.
In your list would you be willing to list the absolute required cards?
i know gaka wont like it because its an artifact, but im not as stiff about artifacts. definitely interesting. and we do play a lot of creatures to make it work. only thing in this list is that we lack actual dredge cards due to color restrictions. i dont think i would run it but in that budget list it would be super sweet because it could make up for the loss of bazaar and some other hyper self mill cards
This is based off of gaka's list but i think that if it were to be a budget list it would look something like this or at least be a good place to start. must haves with *
1 Edric, Spymaster of Trest
Creatures - 34
1 Avenging Druid
1 Body Double
1 cloud of faeries
1 coiling oracle
1 Deranged Assistant
1 Dryad Arbor
1 Eternal Witness*
1 Fatesticher
1 Fauna Shaman
1 Fyndhorn Elves
1 Genesis*
1 Golgari Brownscale*
1 Golgari Grave-Troll*
1 Greater Mossdog*
1 Hermit Druid
1 Jace's Archivist*
1 Kessig Cagebreakers*
1 Krosan Restorer
1 Laboratory Maniac*
1 Llanowar Elves
1 elvish mystic
1 Lotus Cobra
1 Magus of the Bazaar*
1 Mirror-Mad Phantasm*
1 Narcomoeba
1 Riftsweeper
1 Sakura-Tribe Elder
1 loaming shaman
1 Silverglade Pathfinder
1 archeomancer
1 Splinterfright
1 Tilling Treefolk
1 Trygon Predator
1 voidmage husher
1 voidmage prodigy
1 Waterfront Bouncer*
1 Werebear
1 Wickerbough Elder
1 Wonder
1 Attunement*
1 Compulsion*
1 Concordant Crossroads
1 Burgeoning
1 opposition
Instants - 8
1 Crop Rotation
1 Forbid*
1 frantic search
1 Memory's Journey*
1 Visions of Beyond
1 Worldly Tutor
1 cyclonic rift
Sorceries - 13
1 Acorn Harvest*
1 careful study
1 Deep Analysis
1 Far Wanderings
1 Green Sun's Zenith
1 Grizzly Fate
1 Life from the Loam*
1 Traumatize
1 Nostalgic Dreams
1 Recollect
1 Regrowth
1 Spitting Image
1 Tracker's Instincts
Artifacts - 1
1 Null Rod
Lands - 37
1 Cephalid Coliseum*
1 Command Tower
11 Forest
1 High Market
1 Hinterland Harbor
10 Island
1 Lonely Sandbar
1 Minamo, School at Water's Edge
1 Petrified Field
1 Remote Isle
1 Slippery Karst
1 Strip Mine
1 Tolaria West
1 Tranquil Thicket
1 tectonic edge
1 Yavimaya Coast
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I have been looking into Theros for any possible additions and I think there may be a few possibilities.
Commune with the Gods- 1G dumps cards into grave, snags a dude or any of the nice enchantments. Pretty nice.
Bow of Nylea- 1GG makes your army a bit more threatening as well as a multitude of other things. pings x/2 fliers, gains a little life, counters up a dude, and recurrs 4 in any order to the bottom of the deck
Voyaging Satyr- 1G untaps Bazaar and Cradle nicely
Prophet of Kruphix- 3UG untaps dudes and lands or more activations etc and gives your dorks flash...seems pretty good though it is a little high cost wise maybe.
Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx- a little worse cradle but still another cradle in this deck with its mana dorks etc.
Swan Song- U stops wraths for one mana..pretty neat.
Thoughts?
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I still play the deck, but have not updated it in... quite some time. Very little time is available to me for theorycrafting and testing and such these days.
Ideally, the deck shouldn't have changed much over recent sets. There haven't been a whole lot of new toys to play with.
EDH:
RNorin the WaryR <-Link! (Primer - Mono Red Control)
GUEdric, Spymaster of TrestUG <- Link! (Mini-Primer - Dredge)
Duel Commander:
WUGeist of Saint TraftUW <- Link! (Aggro-Control)
BGSkullbriar, the Walking GraveGB <- Link! (Aggro)
BUGDamia, Sage of StoneGUB <- Link! (Extinction Control)
Church of the Wary
I know is not as easy to get Threshold and Life from the Loam becomes not as great (can still get back Evolving Wilds and Terramorphic Expanse though, and run additional cards like Harrow?) but the deck looks way too fun not to try >_>
Narcomoeba has to be the perfect card for this deck.....
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Yes, and a pretty unbearable one.
also, bane of progress is literally the best possible adition because it can be natural ordered or green sun zenith'd and never blows up any artifacts because we dont play any, well i play crucible but very few enchants so it is always a bomb.
other than hermit druid into lab man being this decks saving grace, ive been playing variants of this deck for multiple years and still love it. best edh archtype
also, has anyone tried treasure cruise or dig through time? i haven't since i hate exiling my cards, but they are always in the back of my head. i don't feel like the deck needs draw power which is why i haven't added them, but they seem way too powerful to not include.
Mesmeric Orb works very well in my more budget version of the deck.
I believe vyrn's prodigy is worth a slot. Didnt really notice anything else recently worth playing. Maybe the new double regrowth mythic dude or the bellower that tutors.
Maybe i will post my new updated list just to maybe get some juices flowing. Decided to play manacrypt and sol ring with null rod. Its just too powerful not to play
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I do play Traverse the Ulvenwald and Itlimoc, Cradle of the Sun list for added redundancy. Recently, I have been trying world Shaper.
Eventually just turned into a Sidisi deck though since the self-mill plan is just easier to facilitate with black cards. I can definitely comment that World Shaper is a ridiculous card.
I thought about changing over to Sidisi when she was released, but decided not to because the deck would change too much. Having consistent draw power in the command zone is just too good IMO. Also, the only way I see her working would be to take out most of my looting effects and add in more draw to take advantage of the increased dredgers. Honestly, I just don't see it being faster or as out of left field as a U/G dredge deck.
Would anyone be willing to share an updated list?
Cheers!