MTG Salvation

Love the deck. I've been contemplating the idea of building something very similar for a while now, and if I had the money, I would! One question that comes to mind when looking over your list is what is Eon Hub there for? I see a negative interaction - and a big one at that - with Smokestack. I'm sure it's there for some other positive purpose that I'm just not seeing!

eon hub locks with rising waters and stops death by mana crypt, and locks with stasis

How do you win?

Forsaken City helps with Rising Waters and Stasis on the board.

If he was trying to win i think he'd play more instant staples and just go off. This deck looks more like a "dave" deck that is intended to piss people off it looks great for that

This decks wins, only by people getting tired, gets angry, or leaves

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If he was trying to win i think he'd play more instant staples and just go off. This deck looks more like a "dave" deck that is intended to piss people off it looks great for that

What is this reference to "dave.dec" that I've seen floating around. One way or another, I'm not familiar with the referent...

Vedalken Mastermind also locks with stasis.

Edit: As does Sun Titan. Add Sword of Feast and Famine for added potency with him.

You could also play Mobilization and then you can add Skullclamp and Stoneforge Mystic as well as Tezzeret the Seeker which can also have other applications.

And where is Chrome Mox?

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What is this reference to "dave.dec" that I've seen floating around. One way or another, I'm not familiar with the referent...

It is in reference to this article.
The Fourth Psycho

The deck really represents what azorius like to do. Maintain order by making everyone powerless, without the need of aggression.

Having said that, a few card choice questions.
Since most of the deck prevents players from casting spells, do we need Rule of Law and Arcane Laboratory.

I wouldn't mind adding Mystical Tutor and Fabricate here, especially the tutor to grab Enduring Ideal.

Not sure I like Mox Diamond and Mox Opal, maybe Azorius Signet and some other 2 mana rock?

I think Norn's Annex can be swapped with the new Sphere of Safety, maybe Azor's Elocutor's could be added as a win-con, but not sure if that interferes too much with Pendrell Mists and the tabernacle.

overall, though I like this deck alot and would play it if I was in an especially strong mood to say "no" alot.

Decks like this are always fun to play; its like group-hug, no matter who wins the fun is derived from trolling the table!

No Mystifying Maze and Prahv? Or are they too slow to be worthwhile?

Also, maybe Open the Vaults as a backup Replenish.

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It is in reference to this article.
The Fourth Psycho

My favorite part of that article is the huge message Dave's soul is full of hate.

Also note that the author sorta predicts the creation of Norin the Wary EDH troll decks.

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Decks like this are always fun to play; its like group-hug, no matter who wins the fun is derived from trolling the table!

Actually, I think this is more evil than group hug. Group hug speeds up the game, leading to trolling, but the trolling is usually quick. It's annoying, but more in the quick pinch or annoying stumble sort of way. It's basically one guy giving some other guy a gun and some bullets. Annoying but not completely annoying because the annoying guy got shot too. Also, sometimes the annoying guy gives you bullets so you're not as annoyed and get to shoot at him.

This deck seems to stall out the game and leads into a slow and steady pace. It then ends things abruptly via draw. Meaning that no matter how long the game, no matter how hard fought the battle, the entire game was pointless, and no one won. That's like someone periodically coming by to slowly annoy you, escalating the torture gradually over time, then abruptly leaving for a permanent vacation to paradise before anyone can do anything.

Well it seems like there are a few ways to win.

Once the game has locked down, Jace, the mind sculptor can pick off each player.

You can protect yourself well enough to get Luminarch Ascension Active.

Most of the time everyone will get locked down and quit.

If your goal is to "keep peace" then Divine Intervention could be seen as a victory.

I feel like we might need something to shuffle our graveyard back into our library, when we lock the game down in case someone wants to see if you can actually win when the board gets locked down.

Azor's Elocutors seems it could up our win-cons

I kind of like Darksteel Reactor here too.

Hmmm, would clockspinning be useful for toying with everyone? It seems you could effectively prolong the frustration, keeping the game paused at one intervention counter until you're ready to declare no winner or everyone quits.

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Most of the time everyone will get locked down and quit.

Yeah, this would be the goal. The other actual wins you listed will probably never be used considering winning doesn't seem to be the deck's strategy.

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If your goal is to "keep peace" then Divine Intervention could be seen as a victory.

This is the main victory condition in the deck because the goal was to troll to make sure no one wins. I think you may have missed this post:

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This decks wins, only by people getting tired, gets angry, or leaves

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I feel like we might need something to shuffle our graveyard back into our library, when we lock the game down in case someone wants to see if you can actually win when the board gets locked down.

I'm pretty sure that's what Replenish is for. I also suggested Open the Vaults.

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Azor's Elocutors seems it could up our win-cons

Again, I'm pretty sure from this post that the goal isn't to win:

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This decks wins, only by people getting tired, gets angry, or leaves

That, and the thread title includes "I Hate Magic the Gathering."

I love this deck and how it runs. I currently run a weaker, more playable version of the deck. If I was to play your version, I think I would never be allowed to play in my group again. T.T

this deck is like the expensive as all hell version of one that a guy that hates my guts plays (accuses me of stealing ideas if so much as one card is similar to someone elses deck)

I don't understand how you still have anybody to play with...

I sat down at a table and was roflstomped by a Group Hug because he decided to give victory to a Stax/Statis player, Turn 3.

If that's how they treat strangers, I don't want to know how they treat their friends.

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Hmmm, would clockspinning be useful for toying with everyone? It seems you could effectively prolong the frustration, keeping the game paused at one intervention counter until you're ready to declare no winner or everyone quits.




Yeah, this would be the goal. The other actual wins you listed will probably never be used considering winning doesn't seem to be the deck's strategy.




This is the main victory condition in the deck because the goal was to troll to make sure no one wins. I think you may have missed this post:





I'm pretty sure that's what Replenish is for. I also suggested Open the Vaults.




Again, I'm pretty sure from this post that the goal isn't to win:

That, and the thread title includes "I Hate Magic the Gathering."

Yeah, i got all of that. I Figured having a few ways to actually win, wouldn't be a terrible idea, but most people will scoop once you lock the game down completely with a stasis lock or something.

Then you could break your stasis lock for a second to use a Elixir of Immortality for a second and recommence stasis lock after so everybody mills to death.

Then again it's main wincon is testing all your opponents patience until people start to rage quit until your the last player standing. It's basically a race for them to win or get locked down.

lol not alot of people like this deck when i play it, the reason i made this deck, was that im a really competitve 1v1 edh player and at a local shop there was a group of people who only liked playing group games and invited me to play and insisted that the game would not result in a game of politics and i end up getting knocked out first, I ALWAYS knocked out first every time!

thus this troll deck was born!

so when i even do get a chance to play multi player edh, and the group is down to 2 ppl me and sumone else, i just scoop and congratulate the opponent that refused to walk away or was willing to stay the longest rofl.

and with card choices: there are so many annoying cards in blue white that it is so hard to make cuts or room, i ultimately just picked the most annoying yet cheapest mana cost and that provides enough utility to sustain on its own as well as the deck.

sum example games, 5 man group, 3 ppl left, i had 27 angels from ascension, instead of winning i casted divine intervention and made it a draw in stead.

turn 1 mishras workshop into defense grid, EVERYBODY got to play thier cards with out fear of counterspells and removals!

if u play a deck like this ask your opponent this question: "im playing magic the gathering, i dont know if you are?"

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