Kikki really doesn't have much to interact with tbh. He would just be a combo piece. Xenagos is awfully awkward, as well. Thinking of bringing back Koth off the bench, or just cutting that for a different card slot.
That's the thing though, I already have a lot of creatures that are primarily combo targets.
I need some value creatures as well.
Edit: If you are looking for another walker, Chandra, the Firebrand functions as a back up general if raidmother gets tucked.
Also, Planer Portal is kind of expensive, and if I'm not mistaking you are a little low on wraths. Maybe a good slot for All is Dust or Oblivion Stone?
Maybe I just misunderstood ya. Long night. You feel as if Kikki would change your deck style?
Your list is really neat though. How have the tempts worked out for you? I think the green one is pretty good, but that red one would be pretty legit. Especially with Purphoros, God of the Forge.
Maybe I just misunderstood ya. Long night. You feel as if Kikki would change your deck style?
I'm saying that I have a lot of other creatures that are combo creatures, and that I need creatures that interact with the board while I am waiting to draw Scapeshift, Tooth and Nail, or ramp into a big mana wincon.
Your list is really neat though. How have the tempts worked out for you? I think the green one is pretty good, but that red one would be pretty legit. Especially with Purphoros, God of the Forge.
Thank you, I actually just added those so I can't really can't say a whole lot other than I think they will do well.
I am kind of scared to play the green one, but then this deck is pretty suicidal with doublers and other global resource cards anyway so we'll see.
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That's the thing though, I already have a lot of creatures that are primarily combo targets.
I need some value creatures as well.
Edit: If you are looking for another walker, Chandra, the Firebrand functions as a back up general if raidmother gets tucked.
Also, Planer Portal is kind of expensive, and if I'm not mistaking you are a little low on wraths. Maybe a good slot for All is Dust or Oblivion Stone?
Ya, Another wipe would be good. Wasn't sure what to use. Planar Portal is actually pretty legit. It is expensive, though. It has pulled me out of some holes though. It just helps with the lack of draw and tutor that our colors have.
Ya, Another wipe would be good. Wasn't sure what to use. Planar Portal is actually pretty legit. It is expensive, though. It has pulled me out of some holes though. It just helps with the lack of draw and tutor that our colors have.
I recently added Fierce Empath; as I most of my creatures are 6 mana or more it works pretty well.
It also seems like it will be fun with Mimic Vat.
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I recently added Fierce Empath; as I most of my creatures are 6 mana or more it works pretty well.
It also seems like it will be fun with Mimic Vat.
Though Mimic Vat is pretty awesome. I just didn't like it, and it usually gets blown up.
Most of the time I sit down though it becomes "Kill Wort Now." Which is cool and a bit frustrating. I like to call her my ticking time-bomb.
Edit: Koth I really enjoyed in this deck. It kinda forces you to up your mountain count. Prismatic Omen He dies a lot, but he is just that powerful. Fierce Empath I had in the deck. I cut it but never gave it a chance. Might go back to it, to try.
Added Mana Geyser, apparently someone actually mentioned this earlier in the thread. Wondering if I should add Rude Awakening as well.
I want to say it's better than Boundless Realms because it prevents me from over-extending. Then again, if my wincon gets countered after Rude Awakening that mana is gone.
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Added Mana Geyser, apparently someone actually mentioned this earlier in the thread. Wondering if I should add Rude Awakening as well.
I want to say it's better than Boundless Realms because it prevents me from over-extending. Then again, if my wincon gets countered after Rude Awakening that mana is gone.
Mana Geyser seems really neat. The problem with it and cards like Rude Awakening is that they are sometimes dead cards till you are able to go off. I do find it interesting though. Rude Awakening can lead up to some rude turns (pun intended). Boundless Realms has never been a bad card to me. It is just a super solid ramp spell. Doubling your mana base is just plain good. The down side is it does over-extend you into LD. I would say the card is fairly meta-dependent.
I think Mana Geyser has the potential to net you much more mana, especially in my meta where we often play 5-6 player games. It is also a funny way to punish people for overreaching with Collective Voyage.
If say 8 lands come into play tapped for 4 opponents that's 32 mana; Conspired, it's 64, and more than enough to kill the table with Comet Storm.
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Did a little bit of playtesting, and what like to say is I wish I had Prismatic Omen in this deck Day 1. Turning on Valakut exactly when you play it, making Rofellos tap for each land you control, being able to untap Gaea's Cradle with Koth is just plain silly. Just an all around solid choice for this deck.
Glad you didn't mention only green cards. Often Purphoros is becoming a green catylist card....
I was really disappointed with the Dragonlair Spider design.
The cost is acceptable, but the Insect creatures should have been 1/2 green AND red creature token with reach. If that made the card too powerful, the reduce the body of the mother to a 4/5 or even 3/4.
As is, it's so much less than Dragon Broodmother....
I was really disappointed with the Dragonlair Spider design.
The cost is acceptable, but the Insect creatures should have been 1/2 green AND red creature token with reach. If that made the card too powerful, the reduce the body of the mother to a 4/5 or even 3/4.
As is, it's so much less than Dragon Broodmother....
I have been wanting both but they are kinda clunky. I chose spider over mother due to the body and he bleeds much more with Purphy as compared to mother. Yet mother's tokens do get better as the game goes on.
I see what you are talking about with the token Design. I would have figured it would have made Spiders, or least 1/1 Red/Green Insects. But I guess it was more of a flavor decision.
I have been wanting both but they are kinda clunky. I chose spider over mother due to the body and he bleeds much more with Purphy as compared to mother. Yet mother's tokens do get better as the game goes on.
I see what you are talking about with the token Design. I would have figured it would have made Spiders, or least 1/1 Red/Green Insects. But I guess it was more of a flavor decision.
Yes, I definately think the dragon is better than the spider.
- They each have about the same token generation. You 'could' get more with spider, but you are doing so at the cost of you're opponent's board position. Likewise, you 'could' also get less, which devalues your cast. With dragon, the token generation is consistently guarenteed. You know what you've paid for.
- Also, 1/1 flyers are way better than 1/1 grounds....especially when those flyers could very easily become 3/3 flyers at very little cost.
I completely understand. I'm gonna do a swap. Constant triggers are better than variant triggers. Flyers are always better than ground. So ya I am convinced to make the swap.
That's the thing though, I already have a lot of creatures that are primarily combo targets.
I need some value creatures as well.
Edit: If you are looking for another walker, Chandra, the Firebrand functions as a back up general if raidmother gets tucked.
Also, Planer Portal is kind of expensive, and if I'm not mistaking you are a little low on wraths. Maybe a good slot for All is Dust or Oblivion Stone?
WBRG Saskia the Unyielding
WUB Sharuum the Hegemon
RWU Shu Yun, the Silent Tempest
RG Wort, the Raidmother
WU Brago, King Eternal
B Chainer, Dementia Master
Your list is really neat though. How have the tempts worked out for you? I think the green one is pretty good, but that red one would be pretty legit. Especially with Purphoros, God of the Forge.
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I'm saying that I have a lot of other creatures that are combo creatures, and that I need creatures that interact with the board while I am waiting to draw Scapeshift, Tooth and Nail, or ramp into a big mana wincon.
Thank you, I actually just added those so I can't really can't say a whole lot other than I think they will do well.
I am kind of scared to play the green one, but then this deck is pretty suicidal with doublers and other global resource cards anyway so we'll see.
WBRG Saskia the Unyielding
WUB Sharuum the Hegemon
RWU Shu Yun, the Silent Tempest
RG Wort, the Raidmother
WU Brago, King Eternal
B Chainer, Dementia Master
Ya, Another wipe would be good. Wasn't sure what to use. Planar Portal is actually pretty legit. It is expensive, though. It has pulled me out of some holes though. It just helps with the lack of draw and tutor that our colors have.
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I recently added Fierce Empath; as I most of my creatures are 6 mana or more it works pretty well.
It also seems like it will be fun with Mimic Vat.
WBRG Saskia the Unyielding
WUB Sharuum the Hegemon
RWU Shu Yun, the Silent Tempest
RG Wort, the Raidmother
WU Brago, King Eternal
B Chainer, Dementia Master
Though Mimic Vat is pretty awesome. I just didn't like it, and it usually gets blown up.
Most of the time I sit down though it becomes "Kill Wort Now." Which is cool and a bit frustrating. I like to call her my ticking time-bomb.
Edit: Koth I really enjoyed in this deck.
It kinda forces you to up your mountain count. Prismatic Omen He dies a lot, but he is just that powerful.Fierce Empath I had in the deck. I cut it but never gave it a chance. Might go back to it, to try.
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I want to say it's better than Boundless Realms because it prevents me from over-extending. Then again, if my wincon gets countered after Rude Awakening that mana is gone.
WBRG Saskia the Unyielding
WUB Sharuum the Hegemon
RWU Shu Yun, the Silent Tempest
RG Wort, the Raidmother
WU Brago, King Eternal
B Chainer, Dementia Master
Mana Geyser seems really neat. The problem with it and cards like Rude Awakening is that they are sometimes dead cards till you are able to go off. I do find it interesting though. Rude Awakening can lead up to some rude turns (pun intended). Boundless Realms has never been a bad card to me. It is just a super solid ramp spell. Doubling your mana base is just plain good. The down side is it does over-extend you into LD. I would say the card is fairly meta-dependent.
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I've found Early Harvest to be better.
- easier to cast
- instant speed
- works with Reiterate still.
Only downside? Run more basics....but Wort likes that anyways with Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle in the deck.
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How does that work with the stack could I still conspire and double my mana?
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I think Mana Geyser has the potential to net you much more mana, especially in my meta where we often play 5-6 player games. It is also a funny way to punish people for overreaching with Collective Voyage.
If say 8 lands come into play tapped for 4 opponents that's 32 mana; Conspired, it's 64, and more than enough to kill the table with Comet Storm.
WBRG Saskia the Unyielding
WUB Sharuum the Hegemon
RWU Shu Yun, the Silent Tempest
RG Wort, the Raidmother
WU Brago, King Eternal
B Chainer, Dementia Master
Also Purphoros is still pretty dumb. He just makes cards like Avenger of Zendikar, Kazuul, and Dragonlair Spider that much better.
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Glad you didn't mention only green cards. Often Purphoros is becoming a green catylist card....
I was really disappointed with the Dragonlair Spider design.
The cost is acceptable, but the Insect creatures should have been 1/2 green AND red creature token with reach. If that made the card too powerful, the reduce the body of the mother to a 4/5 or even 3/4.
As is, it's so much less than Dragon Broodmother....
| B Erebos, God of VampiresB | GYeva SmashG | RBosh ArtifactsR | GURAnimar +1 BeatsGUR | RBVial's Secret Hot SauceRB | UBRNekusar, Draw if you DareUBR | RGBDarigaaz'z DragonsRGB | GBSlimeFEETGB | UBOn-Hit LazavUB | URBrudiclad's Artificer InventionsUR | GUBMuldrotha's ElementalsGUB | WUGKestia's EnchantmentsWUG | GUTatyova - Draw, Land, Go!GU | WGArahbo's EquipmentWG | BUWVarina's ZOMBIE HORDESBUW | WLyra's Angelic SalvationW | WBChurch of TeysaWB | UAzami...WizardsU
SO you thinkDragon Broodmother is better than Dragonlair Spider?
I have been wanting both but they are kinda clunky. I chose spider over mother due to the body and he bleeds much more with Purphy as compared to mother. Yet mother's tokens do get better as the game goes on.
I see what you are talking about with the token Design. I would have figured it would have made Spiders, or least 1/1 Red/Green Insects. But I guess it was more of a flavor decision.
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Yes, I definately think the dragon is better than the spider.
- They each have about the same token generation. You 'could' get more with spider, but you are doing so at the cost of you're opponent's board position. Likewise, you 'could' also get less, which devalues your cast. With dragon, the token generation is consistently guarenteed. You know what you've paid for.
- Also, 1/1 flyers are way better than 1/1 grounds....especially when those flyers could very easily become 3/3 flyers at very little cost.
That's the way I see it anyways...
| B Erebos, God of VampiresB | GYeva SmashG | RBosh ArtifactsR | GURAnimar +1 BeatsGUR | RBVial's Secret Hot SauceRB | UBRNekusar, Draw if you DareUBR | RGBDarigaaz'z DragonsRGB | GBSlimeFEETGB | UBOn-Hit LazavUB | URBrudiclad's Artificer InventionsUR | GUBMuldrotha's ElementalsGUB | WUGKestia's EnchantmentsWUG | GUTatyova - Draw, Land, Go!GU | WGArahbo's EquipmentWG | BUWVarina's ZOMBIE HORDESBUW | WLyra's Angelic SalvationW | WBChurch of TeysaWB | UAzami...WizardsU
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