Armageddon/Catastrophe/Ravages of War+Kemba w/ equipment: While my opponent is coming back from the land destruction im just making tokens and attacking!
EDIT: Made some changes. Tangle wire didnt do much.
Pulled some junk out and added some more junk. Most significantly Rule of Law. It hasnt been amazing, but its definitely superior to tangle wire.
Any and all suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for the help so far!
I see a few cards that might be handy...
The Elspeths also make good sac fodder for a Stax deck and they are good on their own too. Relying on Kemba for anything is always risky so token back up is key.
Enlightened Tutor will be able to fetch a lot of the cards you are going to need.
Catastrophe and Armageddon are a must in this deck. If you can squeeze out your opponents they keep them from ever coming back.
Kismet and Loxodon Gatekeeper look "meh" at first, but when you are already slowing things down with the orbs they are backbreaking.
Sun Titan is one of the most powerful cards you have as Mono-White.
You don't need all that equipment... like 12-15 should be more than enough and right now I sloppily counted 32. Kemba is good, but she isn't something you should ~completely~ build your deck around. Staxing people out is a great way to make her better, not adding a ton of equipment.
Kismet and Loxodon Gatekeeper look "meh" at first, but when you are already slowing things down with the orbs they are backbreaking.
One-sided stax effects are great!
Sun Titan is one of the most powerful cards you have as Mono-White.
Yeah, good as a beater and for resurrection. Also if i could use it to resurrect kemba!
You don't need all that equipment... like 12-15 should be more than enough and right now I sloppily counted 32. Kemba is good, but she isn't something you should ~completely~ build your deck around. Staxing people out is a great way to make her better, not adding a ton of equipment.
Should i pull out utility equipment or pumping equipment? Most of the pump stuff is cheaper, but the utility is more helpful in general.
I would probably take out the weak ones regardless of their purpose. Some are just too expensive to serve any real purpose or give you any real advantage. In the first wave I would cut:
Then I would probably take out:
1x Bonesplitter
1x Darksteel Axe
1x Explorer's Scope
1x Leonin Scimitar
1x Trailblazer's Boots
If you are left with these, they are more expensive on average but they free up a lot of slots in the deck to put cards. Steelshaper's Gift, Darksteel Plate, Fireshrieker (with all those Pro-Swords getting the effect twice is awesome), and Lightning Greaves can work their way in too.
I knew that they'd be really helpful, i just wasnt sure whether people would still want to play me.
Honestly, I see mono-white as the weakest color to build a deck around so if you played a couple of the best tricks your color has... I wouldn't blame you. It's not like my Jor Kadeen deck that runs 16 mana artifacts and 10 mass land destruction spells that makes that the main means of winning.
Alright, Im down with most of that, but some of them i like. Mainly O-naginata (I have nothing else to give trample), trailblazers boots (Ive NEVER played a game where someone had no nonbasic lands out), Explorer's scope (for the "ramp", white doesnt have much).
The flying stuff was in there so i could attack with something when i had moat out. I think if im removing those i need to remove moat.
Also im thinking about putting in more pacifism effects, and tabernacle.
I am trying to convince myself that I DON't want to build this deck (well, one like it), but I am indeed having a hard time of that...
I think that there is enough mono white hate to make this work.
Emeria Angel could help with the Stax fodder as well. And Luminarch Ascension seems like it could do stupid **** for you once you have the lock going.
Counting the Sculpting Steel as a rock, you only have four. Maybe a Sol Ring or Thran Dynamo could be useful. Coalition Relic or even a Marble Diamond
I second the dubiously evil inclusion of scepter chant, it's what I thought this deck could really abuse. Of course you have little to no way of protecting it besides getting it online, and even then I suppose it only locks out one player... So, maybe not...
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I am trying to convince myself that I DON't want to build this deck (well, one like it), but I am indeed having a hard time of that...
I think that there is enough mono white hate to make this work.
Emeria Angel could help with the Stax fodder as well. And Luminarch Ascension seems like it could do stupid **** for you once you have the lock going.
Counting the Sculpting Steel as a rock, you only have four. Maybe a Sol Ring or Thran Dynamo could be useful. Coalition Relic or even a Marble Diamond
I second the dubiously evil inclusion of scepter chant, it's what I thought this deck could really abuse. Of course you have little to no way of protecting it besides getting it online, and even then I suppose it only locks out one player... So, maybe not...
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Emeria angel would be good. Will probably throw that in. I actually have more mana stones, but i havent updated the decklist. Will do that now. Snd same to what he said. seems kind of dicky.
Playtested it a little bit. it seemed to do alright.
I will suggest NOT running scepter. You are mono-white. If you kick the hornet's nest you aren't going to be able to defend yourself in a 3-on-1 and scepter tends to just piss people off. Also, it only hits one person for every turn of yours. Turning a table against you for THAT seems risky.
Yeah, playing LD will make me a target, but they wont be able to do anything about it for a while. I forgot that this was for multiplayer. In singleplayer it'd be great though.
EDIT: Also galspanic, I've gotta say, i love your alters!
Play unwinding clock with chant and scepter and watch the table cry especially if u got an abundas or the archangel to protect them
Most of those cards are bad on their own though. Orim's Chant is playable, but Isochron Scepter and Unwinding Clock aren't particularly synergistic with other cards in the deck.
I'm thinking I should remove one of the worse Swords, either War and Peace or Body and Mind. It's not as good as the other LD spells because it means I can only keep 1 Equipment, but I need to test it.
Staxxy stuff:
1x Chalice of the Void
1x Norn's Annex
1x Winter Orb
1x Static Orb
1x Lodestone Golem
1x Michiko Konda, Truth Seeker
1x Aven Mindcensor
1x Ethersworn Canonist
1x Hokori, Dust Drinker
1x Loxodon Gatekeeper
1x Aura of Silence
1x Spelltithe Enforcer
Decklist
1x Kemba, Kha Regent
Land (37)
1x Vesuva
1x Mishra's Workshop
1x Mouth of Ronom
1x Scrying Sheets
1x Strip Mine
1x Wasteland
1x Emeria, The Sky Ruin
1x Kor Haven
1x Maze of Ith
26x Snow-Covered Plains
1x Flagstones of Trokair
1x Homeward Path
Instant (3)
1x Enlightened Tutor
1x Condemn
1x Swords to Plowshares
Enchantment (11)
1x Ghostly Prison
1x Land Tax
1x Oblivion Ring
1x Bonds of Faith
1x Faith's Fetters
1x Pacifism
1x Prison Term
1x Temporal Isolation
1x Kismet
1x Aura of Silence
1x Rule of Law
1x Steelshaper's Gift
1x Catastrophe
1x Armageddon
1x Ravages of War
Artifact (26)
1x Darksteel Plate
1x Thran Dynamo
1x Chalice of the Void
1x Champion's Helm
1x Crucible of Worlds
1x Explorer's Scope
1x Static Orb
1x Grim Monolith
1x Konda's Banner
1x Loxodon Warhammer
1x Mana Crypt
1x Mana Vault
1x Norn's Annex
1x Sculpting Steel
1x Sensei's Divining Top
1x Skullclamp
1x Smokestack
1x Swiftfoot Boots
1x Sword of Body and Mind
1x Sword of Feast and Famine
1x Sword of Fire and Ice
1x Sword of Light and Shadow
1x Sword of War and Peace
1x Trailblazer's Boots
1x Umezawa's Jitte
1x Winter Orb
1x Fireshrieker
1x Aven Mindcensor
1x Ethersworn Canonist
1x Hokori, Dust Drinker
1x Lodestone Golem
1x Michiko Konda, Truth Seeker
1x Puresteel Paladin
1x Steel Hellkite
1x Weathered Wayfarer
1x Duplicant
1x Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
1x Solemn Simulacrum
1x Leonin Abunas
1x Leonin Shikari
1x Stoneforge Mystic
1x Stonehewer Giant
1x Loxodon Gatekeeper
1x Spelltithe Enforcer
1x Sun Titan
1x Mentor of the Meek
1x Leonin Abunas
Trying to abuse Kemba's ability by putting in tons of low costed and utility equipments so I can make kittys.
Best interactions:
Smokestack+kittens: Sacrifice the cats that Kemba makes while my opponent sacrifices creatures and artifacts and lands.
Winter Orb/Static Orb/Hokori, Dust Drinker+kemba w/ equipment: I can pump out kittens while my enemy struggles to play spells
Armageddon/Catastrophe/Ravages of War+Kemba w/ equipment: While my opponent is coming back from the land destruction im just making tokens and attacking!
EDIT: Made some changes. Tangle wire didnt do much.
Pulled some junk out and added some more junk. Most significantly Rule of Law. It hasnt been amazing, but its definitely superior to tangle wire.
Any and all suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for the help so far!
GRRWHazezon Tamar (Valakut)GRRW
UKami of the Crescent Moon (
Group Hug)UUHeidar, Rimewind Master [Mini-Primer]U
WKemba, Kha Regent (Stax)W
GEzuri, Renegade Leader [Primer]G
The Elspeths also make good sac fodder for a Stax deck and they are good on their own too. Relying on Kemba for anything is always risky so token back up is key.
Enlightened Tutor will be able to fetch a lot of the cards you are going to need.
Catastrophe and Armageddon are a must in this deck. If you can squeeze out your opponents they keep them from ever coming back.
Spelltithe Enforcer, Sphere of Resistance, and Aura of Silence are more tax effects that can be huge. The fact that Aura is recurrable with Sun Titan is amazing too.
Kismet and Loxodon Gatekeeper look "meh" at first, but when you are already slowing things down with the orbs they are backbreaking.
Sun Titan is one of the most powerful cards you have as Mono-White.
You don't need all that equipment... like 12-15 should be more than enough and right now I sloppily counted 32. Kemba is good, but she isn't something you should ~completely~ build your deck around. Staxing people out is a great way to make her better, not adding a ton of equipment.
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EDIT: Okay, sorry, that was not an very gracious and in depth response.
Thanks for the advice Galspanic!
Enlightened tutor is a great add, and its normally in every white build i run, i guess i just forgot about it.
I knew that they'd be really helpful, i just wasnt sure whether people would still want to play me.
One-sided stax effects are great!
Yeah, good as a beater and for resurrection. Also if i could use it to resurrect kemba!
Should i pull out utility equipment or pumping equipment? Most of the pump stuff is cheaper, but the utility is more helpful in general.
GRRWHazezon Tamar (Valakut)GRRW
UKami of the Crescent Moon (
Group Hug)UUHeidar, Rimewind Master [Mini-Primer]U
WKemba, Kha Regent (Stax)W
GEzuri, Renegade Leader [Primer]G
Then I would probably take out:
1x Bonesplitter
1x Darksteel Axe
1x Explorer's Scope
1x Leonin Scimitar
1x Trailblazer's Boots
If you are left with these, they are more expensive on average but they free up a lot of slots in the deck to put cards. Steelshaper's Gift, Darksteel Plate, Fireshrieker (with all those Pro-Swords getting the effect twice is awesome), and Lightning Greaves can work their way in too.
So maybe:
Honestly, I see mono-white as the weakest color to build a deck around so if you played a couple of the best tricks your color has... I wouldn't blame you. It's not like my Jor Kadeen deck that runs 16 mana artifacts and 10 mass land destruction spells that makes that the main means of winning.
WUBRGPauper Battle BoxWUBRG ... and why I am not a fan of Wayne Reynolds' Illustrations.
The flying stuff was in there so i could attack with something when i had moat out. I think if im removing those i need to remove moat.
Also im thinking about putting in more pacifism effects, and tabernacle.
GRRWHazezon Tamar (Valakut)GRRW
UKami of the Crescent Moon (
Group Hug)UUHeidar, Rimewind Master [Mini-Primer]U
WKemba, Kha Regent (Stax)W
GEzuri, Renegade Leader [Primer]G
I think that there is enough mono white hate to make this work.
Emeria Angel could help with the Stax fodder as well. And Luminarch Ascension seems like it could do stupid **** for you once you have the lock going.
Counting the Sculpting Steel as a rock, you only have four. Maybe a Sol Ring or Thran Dynamo could be useful. Coalition Relic or even a Marble Diamond
I second the dubiously evil inclusion of scepter chant, it's what I thought this deck could really abuse. Of course you have little to no way of protecting it besides getting it online, and even then I suppose it only locks out one player... So, maybe not...
End of Line
EDH DECKS:
BGWKarador: Rock out with your **** out
RGBorBor Unragey: Lightning bolts for everyone
BGUMimeoplasm: +1/+1 counters
RWUZedruu- Free off the top forging
Well while I am running mass land destruction, im not sure im ready to do shenanigans like that.
Emeria angel would be good. Will probably throw that in. I actually have more mana stones, but i havent updated the decklist. Will do that now. Snd same to what he said. seems kind of dicky.
Playtested it a little bit. it seemed to do alright.
GRRWHazezon Tamar (Valakut)GRRW
UKami of the Crescent Moon (
Group Hug)UUHeidar, Rimewind Master [Mini-Primer]U
WKemba, Kha Regent (Stax)W
GEzuri, Renegade Leader [Primer]G
WUBRGPauper Battle BoxWUBRG ... and why I am not a fan of Wayne Reynolds' Illustrations.
EDIT: Also galspanic, I've gotta say, i love your alters!
GRRWHazezon Tamar (Valakut)GRRW
UKami of the Crescent Moon (
Group Hug)UUHeidar, Rimewind Master [Mini-Primer]U
WKemba, Kha Regent (Stax)W
GEzuri, Renegade Leader [Primer]G
EDH
BWG Doran Suicide Tempo BWG
BUW Sharuum Midrange Control BUW
Most of those cards are bad on their own though. Orim's Chant is playable, but Isochron Scepter and Unwinding Clock aren't particularly synergistic with other cards in the deck.
Yep, Cataclysm should probably go in.
I'm thinking I should remove one of the worse Swords, either War and Peace or Body and Mind. It's not as good as the other LD spells because it means I can only keep 1 Equipment, but I need to test it.
GRRWHazezon Tamar (Valakut)GRRW
UKami of the Crescent Moon (
Group Hug)UUHeidar, Rimewind Master [Mini-Primer]U
WKemba, Kha Regent (Stax)W
GEzuri, Renegade Leader [Primer]G