Status: Due to the high-threat nature of this General and most of the deck, I don't think it will go over well in my meta. Especially not in what I want to accomplish. This deck is on pause, quite possibly for a fair amount of time. Sorry.
Still on the fence of No mercy, but it fits in style with dread/pharaoh. Subversion i still like for now since it returns life to me, I may cut though as I feel it will also make me a taget.
Tutors had not been added yet.
Dreams/Box may indeed fit in here quite well. I'll need to take a look at the punishment cards I pulled aside for my Grixis deck I was planning.
Stranglehold will probably make it in, I'll pass on insurrection for now, I'm trying to avoid combat wins for this deck. A silly restriction I know, but its one I'm going to stick with for now, at least in design. Some concessions will be made (Godo as a tutor), but not many, hopefully.
mass removal simply hasn't been added yet. I'll probably go with some of the black suite of Damnation, Decree of pain, Dregs of srrow, Plague winds, Rain of Daggers, hellfire, etc.
Fanning the flames does take a lot of mana, but its a repeatable answer, and a killcon if I put the urborg/coffers in. Painful Quandary is in.
Furnace of Rath similar to above with a slight draw back of giving it to opponents as well. Still if you just have this sledge hammer to kill people with who cares.
Furnace of Rath similar to above with a slight draw back of giving it to opponents as well. Still if you just have this sledge hammer to kill people with who cares.
Batterskull??? this gives you a body to block with, it gives you some lifegain and if you strap this to your commander... just win...
P.S. sry bout all the ninja edits
You know, I never noticed Gratuitous Violence went beyond combat damage, that is awesome. Furnace seems a bit risky though. I'll try the one and then decide if I want a second.
BCA, I'm always a bit skeptical of the ascensions, but I think this is the right deck for it. Initially I wanted to put it in a Sygg punishment deck, but I should stop kidding myself that I'm going to build that.
Manabarbs was an initial consideration for this, but then I forgot about it later. Thanks for reminding me.
Crawl Space is good, it will go well with the other thing in the deck thats kind of like it but worse.
Aftershock... Darn it! I keep forgetting that! I'll need to change that back in my Tariel deck too. And Fissure is just too much to keep open.
Ah... Batterskull. Yeah, I need one of those. Looks like I'll put this deck together next month then, when I get some money back into my paypal account... Well, that's when I was planning to put this together anyways. In it goes!
Fault Line // inferno I'm still looking at, especially considering other red ground wipe options (especially paired with repercussion).
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Neko-te looks like it could also be used, its one of the few equipments that triggers on damage rather than combat. Anyone have any experience with it?
You can't use Boros Signet or Orzhov Signet as they don't match your general's colours. If you want to keep those slots for mana rocks, sub in a jet medallion and a ruby medallion.
You might replace some of those Signets that you cant use in here with a Worn Powerstone. It comes in tapped but tapping for 2 mana and only costing 3 to drop is fairly powerful and will help to get you up to that big mana fast.
You will also need to cut Marble Diamond from your list.
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If you decide to run some of the X mana punishment spells then Mana Geyser could be a nice support card. I often receive 20+ mana when I slam it in the late game.
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I'd like to add more of a life leech feel to this deck. I don't think polluted bonds/BCA/Subversion is enough. The lifelink goes a long way on Kaervek/Iguanar/Rage Thrower/zo-zu/ignus, but I want more.
Exsanguinate in a deck like this even for just like 6 or 7 is still really powerful and will net you a ton of life as well as drop all of your opponents. I dont think it even needs to go off all that large for it to really make a huge difference in a list like this.
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Yeah, I was thinking that, but I'm starting to add more shooters in, like kumano, and I may add spikeshot elder.
The swipe will probably end up getting removed, I jsut want to remember it in case. Onyx will probably be one of the first cuts when this gets to the elimination stage, but again, just keeping tabs on him for now.
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Status: Due to the high-threat nature of this General and most of the deck, I don't think it will go over well in my meta. Especially not in what I want to accomplish. This deck is on pause, quite possibly for a fair amount of time. Sorry.
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Currently a WIP as a place to drop my thoughts and cards I want to keep track of.
Theory: Build a deck that wins through damage, preferably without the need of combat.
I'm going to try building a heavy punishment/burn deck. Here goes:
1 Kaervek the merciless
Stuff to make him hurt
1 Tainted Strike
1 Virulent Swipe - ?
2 Onyx Mage
2 Glistening Oil
2 Phyresis
3 Pain Magnification
4 Grafted Exoskeleton
5 Painful Quandary
Other Disruption
3 Sulfuric Vortex
3 Everlasting Torment - ?
3 Bottomless pit - ?
4 Elkin Lair - ?
4 Stranglehold
4 Uba Mask - ?
Stuff to stay alive
1 Basilisk Collar
3 Loxodon Warhammer
4 Polluted Bonds - might work contrary to ideals
5 Subversion
5 batterskull
2x Exsanguinate
Punishment
1 Blood Chief Ascension
2 Ankh of mishra
2 tunnel ignus
3 Zo-zu the punisher
3 Hissing Iguanar
3 Repercussion
3 Underworld dreams
4 Obsidian Fireheart - the lands continue to burn
4 Mana barbs
4 spiteful visions
4 Falkenrath noble
5 seizan, perverter of truth
5 Heartless Hidgetsu
6 Rage thrower
7 Stalking Vengeance
Don't hit me
3 Hissing Miasma
3 Crawl Space - awaiting
4 No Mercy
4 Caverns of Despair
4 Koskun Falls
5 Vengeful Pharaoh
6 Dread
5 Kumano, Master Yamabushi
5 Stuffy Doll
5 Creepy Doll
3 Darksteel Myr
6 Darksteel Sentinel
7 Darksteel Gargoyle
Don't hit me (instant)/answers
2 terminate
2 Shattering pulse
3 Delirium
3 Chaos Warp
4 wrecking ball
4 Agonizing Demise
4 Shriveling Rot
4 into the core
4 Chill to the bone - ?
5 Cinder Cloud - ?
6 Murderous Spoils - ?
6 Stone Idol Trap - ?
8 Lavaball Trap - ?
2 Ashling the pilgrim
3 Crypt Rats
4 Damnation
4 Chain Reaction - ?
5 Hellfire - ?
8 Decree of pain
1x blasphemous act
2x Starstorm - ?
6 Massacre Wurm
7 Inferno
Other
3 Yawgmoth's Will - awaiting
2 Recoup
6 Enslave
5 Beacon of unrest
3 Crucible of Worlds
Draw
3 Phyrexian Arena
4 Graveborn Muse
5 Bloodgift Demon
Tutor
6 Godo, Bandit Warlord
2 Demonic tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor - awaiting
3 Beseech the Queen
4 Dimir House Guard
4 diabolic tutor
Other Mana
1 Expedition map
4 Solemn Simualcrum
5 Mana Geyser
Mana Rocks - 15
1 Sol Ring
2 Mind Stone
2 Rakdos Signet
2 Fellwar Stone
2 Fire Diamond
2 Charcoal Diamond
3 Spectral Searchlight
3 Bloodstone Cameo
3 Coalition Relic
3 Worn Powerstone
3 Darksteel Ingot
3 Pristine Talisman
4 Paradise Plume
4 Thran Dynamo
5 Gilded Lotus
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LANDs - 30-35?
30 something
1 urza's armor
1 Choice of damnations
I do not currently have an urborg tomb, and will probably finally pick one up for this deck. Urborg Coffers -> Fanning the flames seems cool to me.
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Tutors had not been added yet.
Dreams/Box may indeed fit in here quite well. I'll need to take a look at the punishment cards I pulled aside for my Grixis deck I was planning.
Stranglehold will probably make it in, I'll pass on insurrection for now, I'm trying to avoid combat wins for this deck. A silly restriction I know, but its one I'm going to stick with for now, at least in design. Some concessions will be made (Godo as a tutor), but not many, hopefully.
mass removal simply hasn't been added yet. I'll probably go with some of the black suite of Damnation, Decree of pain, Dregs of srrow, Plague winds, Rain of Daggers, hellfire, etc.
Fanning the flames does take a lot of mana, but its a repeatable answer, and a killcon if I put the urborg/coffers in.
Painful Quandary is in.
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Furnace of Rath similar to above with a slight draw back of giving it to opponents as well. Still if you just have this sledge hammer to kill people with who cares.
Bloodchief Ascension it seems like a good way to just leach people to death.
Manabarbs just to be a dick lol.
Fault Line / Inferno big boom boom spells that hit players too.
Crawlspace make it hard to get to you.
Aftershock is sorcery... you might consider moving it to a Go for the Throat or perhaps even Chaos Warp.
Batterskull??? this gives you a body to block with, it gives you some lifegain and if you strap this to your commander... just win...
P.S. sry bout all the ninja edits
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You know, I never noticed Gratuitous Violence went beyond combat damage, that is awesome. Furnace seems a bit risky though. I'll try the one and then decide if I want a second.
BCA, I'm always a bit skeptical of the ascensions, but I think this is the right deck for it. Initially I wanted to put it in a Sygg punishment deck, but I should stop kidding myself that I'm going to build that.
Manabarbs was an initial consideration for this, but then I forgot about it later. Thanks for reminding me.
Crawl Space is good, it will go well with the other thing in the deck thats kind of like it but worse.
Aftershock... Darn it! I keep forgetting that! I'll need to change that back in my Tariel deck too. And Fissure is just too much to keep open.
Ah... Batterskull. Yeah, I need one of those. Looks like I'll put this deck together next month then, when I get some money back into my paypal account... Well, that's when I was planning to put this together anyways. In it goes!
Fault Line // inferno I'm still looking at, especially considering other red ground wipe options (especially paired with repercussion).
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Neko-te looks like it could also be used, its one of the few equipments that triggers on damage rather than combat. Anyone have any experience with it?
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You will also need to cut Marble Diamond from your list.
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If you decide to run some of the X mana punishment spells then Mana Geyser could be a nice support card. I often receive 20+ mana when I slam it in the late game.
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3 Spectral Searchlight
3 Bloodstone Cameo
3 Worn Powerstone
Added No Mercy
Changed PiF with Yawgmoth's Will. I dont have enough instants/sorceries yet.
I'd like to add more of a life leech feel to this deck. I don't think polluted bonds/BCA/Subversion is enough. The lifelink goes a long way on Kaervek/Iguanar/Rage Thrower/zo-zu/ignus, but I want more.
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The swipe will probably end up getting removed, I jsut want to remember it in case. Onyx will probably be one of the first cuts when this gets to the elimination stage, but again, just keeping tabs on him for now.
I'm wondering if i should add a protection suite of equipment for Kaerveck: Lightning Greeves, Swiftfoot Boots, darksteel plate, etc.
Champions helm, Mask of avacyn for worse choices.
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I think I've hit the cut phase now. I think I'm going to let this sit for a bit and think a bit harder which direction I want this to go.
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