I have never played a single game of EDH. But would like to, I had this for multiplayer games as just a 100 singleton/highlander deck. Anything I could do to spice it up (also make it legal, might have missed something that is banned in Commander).
I dont have a Sangromancer, but once I pick that up I will probably remove something for it.
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth boosts Coffers without cutting into your utility lands, Petrified Field gets it back when it inevitably dies, and Deserted Temple doubles up on the effect. Bloodghast is alright on its own, but becomes a disgusting draw engine if you can find it and Skullclamp (though that's not as useful on it's own here).
You also get so many bonus points for using the Baron as a general.
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So I still have yet to play a game of EDH, but I think I will get the chance soon. I updated the deck, but am still short of the 99 by 5 cards. Does anyone have suggests for those 5 additional cards? Anything you think I should remove from the deck?
Nemesis Mask and Basilisk Collar. Equipping Baron Sengir with both makes him become ridiculously large. Something to give him vigilance can also make him regenerate himself should he die in combat.
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Baron Sengir cant save himself, even with vigilance. WotC errated its simple text/ability, so oracle says " regenerate another target vampire"
I would suggest Lightning Greaves, Swiftfoot Boots to give him haste and protection.
Baron Sengir cant save himself, even with vigilance. WotC errated its simple text/ability, so oracle says " regenerate another target vampire"
I would suggest Lightning Greaves, Swiftfoot Boots to give him haste and protection.
Damn, so WotC can basically errata Baron Sengir into not being able to regenerate himself but can't errata the nephilim to be legendary creatures? Thanks, WotC!
I would also add Geode Golem since Baron Sengir is a bit on the hefty side with his casting cost. And Command Beacon in case he gets iced too often.
EDIT:
Yeah, I know that with him being a 'legend' creature type and not a 'vampire' creature type he was never able to regenerate himself. But still, I want those nephilim to be legendary!
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You can also use Krovikan Vampire equipped with Thornbite Staff and Basilisk Collar to protect your own creatures. If a creature you control would die during combat, would be destroyed, etc., you can simply ping them with a deathtouch Krovikan Vampire and it'll return to your battlefield at the end of that turn. That's some nice super secret tech, if I say so myself .
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You can also use Krovikan Vampire equipped with Thornbite Staff and Basilisk Collar to protect your own creatures. If a creature you control would die during combat, would be destroyed, etc., you can simply ping them with a deathtouch Krovikan Vampire and it'll return to your battlefield at the end of that turn. That's some nice super secret tech, if I say so myself .
Good observation, I didn't consider using it to protect my guys.
Another trick I considered, even without Basilisk Collar, was to just use the Thornbite Staff to pluck creatures that would die from combat damage, especially when I am not even involved in combat (one of my opponents attacks another opponent).
From this experience, I realized that I need to make the deck a little less "fun". That said, I am thinking of going with a Stax kind of build, which I think is inline with the whole vampire theme.
Two other cards are Darkness and Diabolic Edict. Darkness seems like the right card to shut down infinite attacks and since it's usually done with one creature Edict seems right too.
Some other changes are shown in the spoiler below. Currently I have 3 open spots in the deck before I take anything else out. I am considering more Stax like cards, but also some more Tutors like Beseech the Queen or Mastermind's Acquisition (possibly replacing Diabolic Tutor). I also mentioned Wasteland, but am considering Null Rod too. So any suggestion would be appreciated on what to use to fill out those last 3 slots.
Finally, I think I will switch to Anowon, the Ruin Sage, at least when I play with the people I did last time. For more casual/fun groups I will still stick with Baron.
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Yeah, sorry. I was editing the post after I entered all the changes. I didn't want to lose all of what I typed if something glitched. But I added the reasoning above.
Seems we have many of the same cards in our decks. How do you like Blood Tribute? I liked the idea of it, but the more I thought about it the effect just didn't seem that great. Plus with the ability to tutor for Sorin Markov, I figured he was enough.
One thing I see missing that you have, is card draw. I've considered Necropotence, but kind of fear the skipped draw phase and the significant life lose. I guess maybe that's where stuff like Blood Tribute would shine, when you can gain a bunch of life. What about the other draw effects in your deck? Would you play any other draw spells that you dont currently own, because they arent foil or are to expensive?
8 Baron Sengir
Vampires (20):
2 Kalastria Highborn
2 Vampire Hexmage
2 Gatekeeper of Malakir
2 Blood Artist
3 Dark Impostor
3 Vampire Nighthawk
3 Bloodhusk Ritualist
4 Vampire Nocturnus
4 Bloodline Keeper
4 Sanctum Seeker
5 Sengir Vampire
5 Soul Collector
5 Krovikan Vampire
5 Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief
5 Anowon, the Ruin Sage
5 Malakir Bloodwitch
6 Ascendant Evincar
6 Nirkana Revenant
6 Necropolis Regent
6 Mephidross Vampire
Non-Vampires (2):
4 Solemn Simulacrum
4 Crypt Ghast
Artifacts (17):
0 Mox Diamond
1 Viridian Longbow
1 Sol Ring
1 Expedition Map
1 Mana Vault
1 Blade of the Bloodchief
2 Jet Medallion
2 Charcoal Diamond
4 Lashwrithe
4 Helm of Obedience
4 Crucible of Worlds
4 Smokestack
4 Thran Dynamo
4 Nevinyrral's Disk
5 Mind's Eye
5 Gauntlet of Power
6 Caged Sun
1 Bloodchief Ascension
2 Exsanguinate
3 Syphon Soul
4 Syphon Mind
Graveyard Recursion (5):
2 Animate Dead
3 Yawgmoth's Will
4 Ill-Gotten Gains
4 Zombify
5 Beacon of Unrest
Tutors (3):
1 Vampiric Tutor
2 Demonic Tutor
4 Diabolic Tutor
Removal (3):
2 Diabolic Edict
4 Damnation
4 Mutilate
Random (3):
4 Leyline of the Void
4 Pestilence
5 Revel in Riches
Random (1):
1 Darkness
Planeswalker (2):
4 Liliana of the Dark Realms
6 Sorin Markov
Lands (37):
22x Swamp
0 Snow-Covered Swamp
0 Cabal Coffers
0 Cabal Stronghold
0 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
0 Volrath's Stronghold
0 Leechridden Swamp
0 Shizo, Death's Storehouse
0 Lake of the Dead
0 Dark Depths
0 Terrain Generator
0 Ebon Stronghold
0 Deserted Temple
0 Myriad Landscape
0 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
0 Strip Mine
I dont have a Sangromancer, but once I pick that up I will probably remove something for it.
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UMerfolkU
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Ok, totally over looked that card.
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You also get so many bonus points for using the Baron as a general.
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I would suggest Lightning Greaves, Swiftfoot Boots to give him haste and protection.
Damn, so WotC can basically errata Baron Sengir into not being able to regenerate himself but can't errata the nephilim to be legendary creatures? Thanks, WotC!
Still, equipping Baron Sengir with Nemesis Mask and Basilisk Collar is pretty epic.
I would also add Geode Golem since Baron Sengir is a bit on the hefty side with his casting cost. And Command Beacon in case he gets iced too often.
EDIT:
Yeah, I know that with him being a 'legend' creature type and not a 'vampire' creature type he was never able to regenerate himself. But still, I want those nephilim to be legendary!
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Interesting that you mention Basilisk Collar, as I was considering adding that along with cards like Viridian Longbow and Thornbite Staff. That way, I can set up a little combo with other vampires with effects like Krovikan Vampire.
As it stands now, I would like to fill out the deck with 5 more vampires. After that point, take out some cards to make room for better options.
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Holy completely oblivious to what is going on here Robin. Next time pay better attention.
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Good observation, I didn't consider using it to protect my guys.
Another trick I considered, even without Basilisk Collar, was to just use the Thornbite Staff to pluck creatures that would die from combat damage, especially when I am not even involved in combat (one of my opponents attacks another opponent).
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UBSquee's Shapeshifting PetBU
BW Multiplayer Control WB
RG Changeling GR
UR Mana FlareRU
UMerfolkU
B MBMC B
From this experience, I realized that I need to make the deck a little less "fun". That said, I am thinking of going with a Stax kind of build, which I think is inline with the whole vampire theme.
I've added Crucible of Worlds and Strip Mine for the miserable Strip lock possibilities; probably add a Wasteland too. Also, added Leyline of the Void as it seems like the meta will have some grave-based decks. Plus it allows for the Helm of Obedience combo and is a little dirty with Ill-Gotten Gains.
I've also added Viridian Longbow to take advantage of cards like Soul Collector and Krovikan Vampire.
Two other cards are Darkness and Diabolic Edict. Darkness seems like the right card to shut down infinite attacks and since it's usually done with one creature Edict seems right too.
Some other changes are shown in the spoiler below. Currently I have 3 open spots in the deck before I take anything else out. I am considering more Stax like cards, but also some more Tutors like Beseech the Queen or Mastermind's Acquisition (possibly replacing Diabolic Tutor). I also mentioned Wasteland, but am considering Null Rod too. So any suggestion would be appreciated on what to use to fill out those last 3 slots.
Finally, I think I will switch to Anowon, the Ruin Sage, at least when I play with the people I did last time. For more casual/fun groups I will still stick with Baron.
In: Gatekeeper of Malakir, Vampire Nighthawk, Bloodhusk Ritualist, Sengir Vampire, Soul Collector, Krovikan Vampire, Mephidross Vampire, Viridian Longbow, Jet Medallion, Lashwrithe, Helm of Obedience, Ill-Gotten Gains, Darkness, Diabolic Edict, Leyline of the Void, Smokestack, Crucible of Worlds
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RG Changeling GR
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UMerfolkU
B MBMC B
BGU [Primer] Sidisi, Brood Tyrant BGU | BG [Primer] Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest BG | G [Primer] Polukranos, World Eater G
My YouTube Channel:
The Commander Tavern - a channel I just started where I'll post deck techs and gameplays. Please support by checking it out. Maybe you'll like its content and subscribe! Thanks!
Yeah, sorry. I was editing the post after I entered all the changes. I didn't want to lose all of what I typed if something glitched. But I added the reasoning above.
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RG Changeling GR
UR Mana FlareRU
UMerfolkU
B MBMC B
I made it 100% foil so I don't have access to card that aren't available in foil or are too expensive like demonic/vampiric tutor.
Seems we have many of the same cards in our decks. How do you like Blood Tribute? I liked the idea of it, but the more I thought about it the effect just didn't seem that great. Plus with the ability to tutor for Sorin Markov, I figured he was enough.
One thing I see missing that you have, is card draw. I've considered Necropotence, but kind of fear the skipped draw phase and the significant life lose. I guess maybe that's where stuff like Blood Tribute would shine, when you can gain a bunch of life. What about the other draw effects in your deck? Would you play any other draw spells that you dont currently own, because they arent foil or are to expensive?
Finally, I forgot to add in Mana Web, for my Staxish build it seems brutal with Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth out.
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BUWGR Highlander GRWUB
UBSquee's Shapeshifting PetBU
BW Multiplayer Control WB
RG Changeling GR
UR Mana FlareRU
UMerfolkU
B MBMC B