So, here is my take on Tribal Soldiers. It seems to be decent in 1-on-1 matches despite an awkward mana curve (often times only dropping land until turn four). In multiplayer it survives by being the least threatening deck at the table, until it swings for the win. I would like some help tuning it even further.
Current EDH Generals: WAvacyn, Angel of Hope|UAzami, Lady of Scrolls|B| Ob Nixilis, the Fallen|R Daretti, Scrap Savant|GEzuri, Renegade Leader|WUBrago, King Eternal|UBGrimgrin, Corpse-born|BR Wort, Boggart Auntie|RGUlasht, the Hate Seed|GW Captain Sisay|WBGhost Council of Orzhova|BGGlissa, the Traitor|GUExperiment Kraj|URMelek, Izzet Paragon RWJor Kadeen, the Prevailer|WBRKaalia of the Vast|GWBGhave, Guru of Spores|UBRMarchesa, the Black Rose
Retired WDarien, King of Kjeldor|RJaya Ballard, Task Mage|RNorin the Wary|GBMomir Vig, Simic Visionary|WUBRGSliver Overlord
Ancient Tomb is good ramp and can make tokens with Darien. It's hard to sort through the decklist when it's listed alphabetically like that. For example I wanted to know how much land you run without scanning over everything.
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Deck listed edited for clarity. Currently, I only have one Ancient Tomb and it is in another deck. I might consider picking one up for this one though.
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Current EDH Generals: WAvacyn, Angel of Hope|UAzami, Lady of Scrolls|B| Ob Nixilis, the Fallen|R Daretti, Scrap Savant|GEzuri, Renegade Leader|WUBrago, King Eternal|UBGrimgrin, Corpse-born|BR Wort, Boggart Auntie|RGUlasht, the Hate Seed|GW Captain Sisay|WBGhost Council of Orzhova|BGGlissa, the Traitor|GUExperiment Kraj|URMelek, Izzet Paragon RWJor Kadeen, the Prevailer|WBRKaalia of the Vast|GWBGhave, Guru of Spores|UBRMarchesa, the Black Rose
Retired WDarien, King of Kjeldor|RJaya Ballard, Task Mage|RNorin the Wary|GBMomir Vig, Simic Visionary|WUBRGSliver Overlord
City of Brass, Tarnished Citadel, Grand Coliseum, and Jade Monolith (Particularly funny, as it means *any* creature to creature combat can be harnessed for token generation) have all more than earned their place during my own time playing Darien, King of Kjeldor. Having an on-demand source of damage is critical to leveraging the Board position advantage Darien offers, as once he's out, people will tend to only deal lethal damage to you until they can neutralize Darien. I can't recommend Ancient Tomb enough for this deck. It powers Darien out faster, and lets you proactive generate soldier tokens.
I would also suggest testing out Sun Droplet and Angelheart Vial, as they will provide decent synergy with the painlands and Darien, and help mitigate the painlands downsides even if Darien gets Tucked/Stolen.
You can also run Fire and Brimstone for Surprise Blockers (and a little damage to the opponent) with Darien, but it's pretty terrible.
Icatian Moneychanger can finance your troops! Bottle of Suleiman gets you either a 5/5 Flier or 5 soldiers. Goblin Lyre either nukes your opponent hard (since you're a token deck) or gives you even more soldiers. Jinxed Idol can either be sat on as a token engine, or sac a token to shunt it over to someone else, same with Jinxed Ring. Mana Crypt and Mana Vault get even more ridiculous in EDH since their downside becomes an upside. Torture Chamber provides you both a flow of tokens AND targeted creature removal.
I have considered putting City of Brass in the deck as well as a few more pain lands. The other cards sound interesting, but I have no idea what I would cut.
This deck has at least a couple dozen cards that would fit well, but obviously, only the 99 BEST cards get a spot. If you can point out an obvious switch for a better card, I will consider it.
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Current EDH Generals: WAvacyn, Angel of Hope|UAzami, Lady of Scrolls|B| Ob Nixilis, the Fallen|R Daretti, Scrap Savant|GEzuri, Renegade Leader|WUBrago, King Eternal|UBGrimgrin, Corpse-born|BR Wort, Boggart Auntie|RGUlasht, the Hate Seed|GW Captain Sisay|WBGhost Council of Orzhova|BGGlissa, the Traitor|GUExperiment Kraj|URMelek, Izzet Paragon RWJor Kadeen, the Prevailer|WBRKaalia of the Vast|GWBGhave, Guru of Spores|UBRMarchesa, the Black Rose
Retired WDarien, King of Kjeldor|RJaya Ballard, Task Mage|RNorin the Wary|GBMomir Vig, Simic Visionary|WUBRGSliver Overlord
I like Angelic Chorus, but I already have the effect in the deck three times stapled to creatures, two of which can be fetched by Ranger of Eos. O-Ring is an important piece of removal in this deck. Since this deck runs very little board wipe, O-Ring removes troublesome permanents.
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Current EDH Generals: WAvacyn, Angel of Hope|UAzami, Lady of Scrolls|B| Ob Nixilis, the Fallen|R Daretti, Scrap Savant|GEzuri, Renegade Leader|WUBrago, King Eternal|UBGrimgrin, Corpse-born|BR Wort, Boggart Auntie|RGUlasht, the Hate Seed|GW Captain Sisay|WBGhost Council of Orzhova|BGGlissa, the Traitor|GUExperiment Kraj|URMelek, Izzet Paragon RWJor Kadeen, the Prevailer|WBRKaalia of the Vast|GWBGhave, Guru of Spores|UBRMarchesa, the Black Rose
Retired WDarien, King of Kjeldor|RJaya Ballard, Task Mage|RNorin the Wary|GBMomir Vig, Simic Visionary|WUBRGSliver Overlord
Since you have Crovax in the deck you can run Near Death Experience. If you ever have an Odd amount of life, just return him to your hand a bunch of times to get yourself at 1 life, then win!
Kind of douchey, but also hilarious if nobody at the table realizes it or has an answer before you win.
Also Mirror Entity Could be really good. It would just work to buff your tokens.
No Conqueror's Pledge as I don't really like one time token producers, especially really mana-intensive ones. I am even considering cutting Nomad's Assembly.
Near Death Experience seems really bad most of the time. Drawing it without having Crovax is just terrible and the deck has no way to tutor for either of them.
Mirror Entity is already in the deck and is pure win (except when you are mindslavered and it is activiated for 0).
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Current EDH Generals: WAvacyn, Angel of Hope|UAzami, Lady of Scrolls|B| Ob Nixilis, the Fallen|R Daretti, Scrap Savant|GEzuri, Renegade Leader|WUBrago, King Eternal|UBGrimgrin, Corpse-born|BR Wort, Boggart Auntie|RGUlasht, the Hate Seed|GW Captain Sisay|WBGhost Council of Orzhova|BGGlissa, the Traitor|GUExperiment Kraj|URMelek, Izzet Paragon RWJor Kadeen, the Prevailer|WBRKaalia of the Vast|GWBGhave, Guru of Spores|UBRMarchesa, the Black Rose
Retired WDarien, King of Kjeldor|RJaya Ballard, Task Mage|RNorin the Wary|GBMomir Vig, Simic Visionary|WUBRGSliver Overlord
Congregate? Purity prevents non combat damage to you and turns it into life. Great for when someone tucks your general.
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I am petitioning for the removal of mythic rarity. Sig this to join the cause!
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I do not play Coat of Arms in EDH. We have too many tribal decks running around in our Meta. We have Slivers, A Lovisa Coldeyes deck, a Rhys Elf deck, Saproling deck, B/R Wort Goblins just off the top of my head.
Current EDH Generals: WAvacyn, Angel of Hope|UAzami, Lady of Scrolls|B| Ob Nixilis, the Fallen|R Daretti, Scrap Savant|GEzuri, Renegade Leader|WUBrago, King Eternal|UBGrimgrin, Corpse-born|BR Wort, Boggart Auntie|RGUlasht, the Hate Seed|GW Captain Sisay|WBGhost Council of Orzhova|BGGlissa, the Traitor|GUExperiment Kraj|URMelek, Izzet Paragon RWJor Kadeen, the Prevailer|WBRKaalia of the Vast|GWBGhave, Guru of Spores|UBRMarchesa, the Black Rose
Retired WDarien, King of Kjeldor|RJaya Ballard, Task Mage|RNorin the Wary|GBMomir Vig, Simic Visionary|WUBRGSliver Overlord
I really love it when I see these Darien, King of Kjeldor decklists pop up as it gives me the chance to revisit my decklist in addition to offering advice to yours...
You are more than welcome to check out my soldier decklist for ideas....follow the link in my sig.
First off, Auriok Champion IS on my wishlist....just haven't bought one yet. (many many have asked me that already)
Overall, I have less creatures and more spot board control. Boardwipes, I find don't work as well as it hurts you more ussually, and you ussually WANT some damage to get through....that's how Darien makes tokens.
Also, once Darien, King of Kjeldor is fielded, the battlefield stalls until either can do lethal since my opponents don't want to give a premature victory to me and my masses of tokens.
As such, I've added instant spot removal to catch my opponent off guard after their already committed to a 'lethal' attack: Path to Exile, Condemn, Crib Swap and Retaliate all help in ensuring just enough damage gets through.
....basically any instant that can rob your opponent from thinking 'victory' to thinking 'crap...that's ALOT of tokens to deal with next turn'.
While on the offensive, I have more instant +1/+1 effects to boost my troops after my opponent has finished selecting blockers. Many 1/1 tokens, once cranked up a notch with Fortify, Swell of Courage, or Surge of Thoughtweft can make for some mass damage crossing the board.
I don't know how you do for card draw, but that's one area that I've had difficulty with since my average CMC is so low. As such, I've added Mindstorm Crown, Well Of Lost Dreams, and Illuminated Folio to assist in gathering the troops.
Special mentions #1 goes to Jade Monolith. For minimal cost, your troops can attack with impunity and if your opponent blocks, it feeds the fire and you get MORE troops out of the deal.
Special mentions #2 goes to Endless Horizons. Once I have 6 lands down, I don't really need any more, so I filter many of my lands out. (not all incase of land destructio) but enough such that I'm not drawing into lands when I want to be drawing into answers. It's not a huge threat that I have more lands entering play with EH either since my deck doesn't need them to function.
Lastly, I see that you have Nomad Stadium, but no City of Brass or Tarnished Citadel. Might as well get soldiers when you can as your opponent isn't going to want to give them to you willingly.
Lastly lastly, I see that you're deck may be a bit more competitive with some of the more expensive staples I see, but my deck has been able to beat Rafiq, Uril, and Zur in their competive states, so (shrugs) might be worth checking out...
1x Darien, King of Kjeldor
CREATURES (33)
1x Auriok Champion
1x Aven Cloudchaser
1x Ballyrush Banneret
1x Benalish Commander
1x Captain of the Watch
1x Catapult Master
1x Catapult Squad
1x Cenn's Tactician
1x Commander Eesha
1x Crovax, Ascendant Hero
1x Daru Warchief
1x Enlistment Officer
1x Field Marshal
1x Gerrard Capashen
1x Goldmeadow Harrier
1x Gustcloak Savior
1x Intrepid Hero
1x Karmic Guide
1x Loxodon Gatekeeper
1x Mirror Entity
1x Oathsworn Giant
1x Preeminent Captain
1x Ranger of Eos
1x Rhox Pikemaster
1x Rune-Tail, Kitsune Ascendant
1x Serra Ascendant
1x Soul Warden
1x Soul's Attendant
1x Steelshaper Apprentice
1x Stormfront Riders
1x Sun Titan
1x Veteran Armorsmith
1x Veteran Swordsmith
1x Martial Coup
1x Nomads' Assembly
1x Revoke Existence
Artifacts (15)
1x Door of Destinies
1x Eldrazi Monument
1x Extraplanar Lens
1x Gauntlet of Power
1x Konda's Banner
1x Leonin Sun Standard
1x Lightning Greaves
1x Mind's Eye
1x Mindstorm Crown
1x Scrabbling Claws
1x Skullclamp
1x Sol Ring
1x Sword of Fire and Ice
1x Umezawa's Jitte
1x Urza's Incubator
ENCHANTMENTS (5)
1x Concerted Effort
1x Marshal's Anthem
1x Mobilization
1x Oblivion Ring
1x True Conviction
INSTANTS (4)
1x Oblation
1x Reinforcements
1x Return to Dust
1x Swords to Plowshares
1x Ajani Goldmane
1x Elspeth Tirel
1x Elspeth, Knight-Errant
1x Gideon Jura
LANDS (35)
1x Daru Encampment
1x Eiganjo Castle
1x Emeria, The Sky Ruin
1x Grand Coliseum
1x Kjeldoran Outpost
1x Mystifying Maze
1x Nomad Stadium
28x Snow-Covered Plains
The Mystifying Maze really wants to be a Maze of Ith, but all of mine are in other decks. Any other suggestions?
W Avacyn, Angel of Hope|U Azami, Lady of Scrolls|B | Ob Nixilis, the Fallen|R Daretti, Scrap Savant|G Ezuri, Renegade Leader|WUBrago, King Eternal|UB Grimgrin, Corpse-born|BR Wort, Boggart Auntie|RG Ulasht, the Hate Seed|GW Captain Sisay|WB Ghost Council of Orzhova|BG Glissa, the Traitor|GU Experiment Kraj|UR Melek, Izzet Paragon
RW Jor Kadeen, the Prevailer|WBR Kaalia of the Vast|GWB Ghave, Guru of Spores|UBR Marchesa, the Black Rose
Retired
WDarien, King of Kjeldor|R Jaya Ballard, Task Mage|R Norin the Wary|GB Momir Vig, Simic Visionary|WUBRG Sliver Overlord
W Avacyn, Angel of Hope|U Azami, Lady of Scrolls|B | Ob Nixilis, the Fallen|R Daretti, Scrap Savant|G Ezuri, Renegade Leader|WUBrago, King Eternal|UB Grimgrin, Corpse-born|BR Wort, Boggart Auntie|RG Ulasht, the Hate Seed|GW Captain Sisay|WB Ghost Council of Orzhova|BG Glissa, the Traitor|GU Experiment Kraj|UR Melek, Izzet Paragon
RW Jor Kadeen, the Prevailer|WBR Kaalia of the Vast|GWB Ghave, Guru of Spores|UBR Marchesa, the Black Rose
Retired
WDarien, King of Kjeldor|R Jaya Ballard, Task Mage|R Norin the Wary|GB Momir Vig, Simic Visionary|WUBRG Sliver Overlord
I would also suggest testing out Sun Droplet and Angelheart Vial, as they will provide decent synergy with the painlands and Darien, and help mitigate the painlands downsides even if Darien gets Tucked/Stolen.
You can also run Fire and Brimstone for Surprise Blockers (and a little damage to the opponent) with Darien, but it's pretty terrible.
Icatian Moneychanger can finance your troops! Bottle of Suleiman gets you either a 5/5 Flier or 5 soldiers. Goblin Lyre either nukes your opponent hard (since you're a token deck) or gives you even more soldiers. Jinxed Idol can either be sat on as a token engine, or sac a token to shunt it over to someone else, same with Jinxed Ring. Mana Crypt and Mana Vault get even more ridiculous in EDH since their downside becomes an upside. Torture Chamber provides you both a flow of tokens AND targeted creature removal.
This deck has at least a couple dozen cards that would fit well, but obviously, only the 99 BEST cards get a spot. If you can point out an obvious switch for a better card, I will consider it.
W Avacyn, Angel of Hope|U Azami, Lady of Scrolls|B | Ob Nixilis, the Fallen|R Daretti, Scrap Savant|G Ezuri, Renegade Leader|WUBrago, King Eternal|UB Grimgrin, Corpse-born|BR Wort, Boggart Auntie|RG Ulasht, the Hate Seed|GW Captain Sisay|WB Ghost Council of Orzhova|BG Glissa, the Traitor|GU Experiment Kraj|UR Melek, Izzet Paragon
RW Jor Kadeen, the Prevailer|WBR Kaalia of the Vast|GWB Ghave, Guru of Spores|UBR Marchesa, the Black Rose
Retired
WDarien, King of Kjeldor|R Jaya Ballard, Task Mage|R Norin the Wary|GB Momir Vig, Simic Visionary|WUBRG Sliver Overlord
with chorus and darien on the board you can only die to damage in one shot. Best paired with a global pump to gain you more life than you lost.
URTibor and Lumia EDH - Here
W Avacyn, Angel of Hope|U Azami, Lady of Scrolls|B | Ob Nixilis, the Fallen|R Daretti, Scrap Savant|G Ezuri, Renegade Leader|WUBrago, King Eternal|UB Grimgrin, Corpse-born|BR Wort, Boggart Auntie|RG Ulasht, the Hate Seed|GW Captain Sisay|WB Ghost Council of Orzhova|BG Glissa, the Traitor|GU Experiment Kraj|UR Melek, Izzet Paragon
RW Jor Kadeen, the Prevailer|WBR Kaalia of the Vast|GWB Ghave, Guru of Spores|UBR Marchesa, the Black Rose
Retired
WDarien, King of Kjeldor|R Jaya Ballard, Task Mage|R Norin the Wary|GB Momir Vig, Simic Visionary|WUBRG Sliver Overlord
Kind of douchey, but also hilarious if nobody at the table realizes it or has an answer before you win.
Also Mirror Entity Could be really good. It would just work to buff your tokens.
URTibor and Lumia EDH - Here
Near Death Experience seems really bad most of the time. Drawing it without having Crovax is just terrible and the deck has no way to tutor for either of them.
Mirror Entity is already in the deck and is pure win (except when you are mindslavered and it is activiated for 0).
W Avacyn, Angel of Hope|U Azami, Lady of Scrolls|B | Ob Nixilis, the Fallen|R Daretti, Scrap Savant|G Ezuri, Renegade Leader|WUBrago, King Eternal|UB Grimgrin, Corpse-born|BR Wort, Boggart Auntie|RG Ulasht, the Hate Seed|GW Captain Sisay|WB Ghost Council of Orzhova|BG Glissa, the Traitor|GU Experiment Kraj|UR Melek, Izzet Paragon
RW Jor Kadeen, the Prevailer|WBR Kaalia of the Vast|GWB Ghave, Guru of Spores|UBR Marchesa, the Black Rose
Retired
WDarien, King of Kjeldor|R Jaya Ballard, Task Mage|R Norin the Wary|GB Momir Vig, Simic Visionary|WUBRG Sliver Overlord
Purity prevents non combat damage to you and turns it into life. Great for when someone tucks your general.
Famliy Guy Emperor Says,
"Something, something something, DARK SIDE!
Something, something, something COMPLETE!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHiUitciuJ8
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SPIKE GAYMER: not just a beatdown, a beatdown sung to the tune of "I Feel Pretty"!
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Instead, I like Door of Destinies as it only pumps MY creatures.
W Avacyn, Angel of Hope|U Azami, Lady of Scrolls|B | Ob Nixilis, the Fallen|R Daretti, Scrap Savant|G Ezuri, Renegade Leader|WUBrago, King Eternal|UB Grimgrin, Corpse-born|BR Wort, Boggart Auntie|RG Ulasht, the Hate Seed|GW Captain Sisay|WB Ghost Council of Orzhova|BG Glissa, the Traitor|GU Experiment Kraj|UR Melek, Izzet Paragon
RW Jor Kadeen, the Prevailer|WBR Kaalia of the Vast|GWB Ghave, Guru of Spores|UBR Marchesa, the Black Rose
Retired
WDarien, King of Kjeldor|R Jaya Ballard, Task Mage|R Norin the Wary|GB Momir Vig, Simic Visionary|WUBRG Sliver Overlord
I really love it when I see these Darien, King of Kjeldor decklists pop up as it gives me the chance to revisit my decklist in addition to offering advice to yours...
You are more than welcome to check out my soldier decklist for ideas....follow the link in my sig.
First off, Auriok Champion IS on my wishlist....just haven't bought one yet. (many many have asked me that already)
Overall, I have less creatures and more spot board control. Boardwipes, I find don't work as well as it hurts you more ussually, and you ussually WANT some damage to get through....that's how Darien makes tokens.
Also, once Darien, King of Kjeldor is fielded, the battlefield stalls until either can do lethal since my opponents don't want to give a premature victory to me and my masses of tokens.
As such, I've added instant spot removal to catch my opponent off guard after their already committed to a 'lethal' attack:
Path to Exile, Condemn, Crib Swap and Retaliate all help in ensuring just enough damage gets through.
....basically any instant that can rob your opponent from thinking 'victory' to thinking 'crap...that's ALOT of tokens to deal with next turn'.
While on the offensive, I have more instant +1/+1 effects to boost my troops after my opponent has finished selecting blockers. Many 1/1 tokens, once cranked up a notch with Fortify, Swell of Courage, or Surge of Thoughtweft can make for some mass damage crossing the board.
Celestial Crusader, Cloudgoat Ranger, Knight-Captain of Eos and [card]Pentarch Paladin[card] have all been great troops to have in the collection.
I don't know how you do for card draw, but that's one area that I've had difficulty with since my average CMC is so low. As such, I've added Mindstorm Crown, Well Of Lost Dreams, and Illuminated Folio to assist in gathering the troops.
Special mentions #1 goes to Jade Monolith. For minimal cost, your troops can attack with impunity and if your opponent blocks, it feeds the fire and you get MORE troops out of the deal.
Special mentions #2 goes to Endless Horizons. Once I have 6 lands down, I don't really need any more, so I filter many of my lands out. (not all incase of land destructio) but enough such that I'm not drawing into lands when I want to be drawing into answers. It's not a huge threat that I have more lands entering play with EH either since my deck doesn't need them to function.
Lastly, I see that you have Nomad Stadium, but no City of Brass or Tarnished Citadel. Might as well get soldiers when you can as your opponent isn't going to want to give them to you willingly.
Lastly lastly, I see that you're deck may be a bit more competitive with some of the more expensive staples I see, but my deck has been able to beat Rafiq, Uril, and Zur in their competive states, so (shrugs) might be worth checking out...
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