Ya with a format running both Strip Mine and Wasteland running Lake of the damned is too risky. Iv never actually tried it but i know its not worth the potential ramp.
Reconsider. If you lose your lands, who cares? Lake of The Dead is pretty great; it doesn't enter tapped or anything so you save it until right before you need it, tap your swamps, play it and sac one and then tap Lake and sac the other swamp. That's 6 mana on turn 3 without any rocks.
I mean, it's not like there's a turn after that, so why care about LD?
Your list was helpful in changing my Sygg into Oloro. I still like Skirge Familiar because it's basically another ritual effect in context. There's been one matchup so far where I didn't get any rituals off of Ad Nauseam besides it; I'm running a few more two drops and my curve is 1.26 (mentioned this to ya) or .81 with lands with Familiar. Skirge Familiar doesn't change that in any significant way, so I figure it's pretty harmless and might just be helpful.
I would argue Hurkyl's Recall is pretty much worse than Retract. You're not concerned about your opponent's artifacts. The one mana probably isn't important, but I'd guess it's more likely to be than Recall is to be useful besides bouncing your stuff. Maybe if you keep running in to Grand Arbiter or something a lot,
I really like the Baubles and the draw spells. The Baubles can be up to 3 spells each with your artifact bounce + Yawgmoth's Will.
Thanks for taking a boo with the deck!!
Tried lake of the dead again and honestly still not sold on the card. In regards to Retract ill agree with you that it is almost never used vs opponents so ill re-make the switch back.
The thing with Lake of the Dead is it really doesn't hurt; and occasionally it's a bunch of mana after Ad Nauseam or a turn 3 combo. Those are both nice.
Three years after creating this thread I decided to sleeve up and try my luck again online Cockatrice and the deck still preforms relatively well Made a couple small changes to list over time that i have yet too add onto change logs, might do it later. Also, might decided to continue with match logs as i keep playing.
I was wondering if this deck could be played under a budget. Specifically if some of the tutors (Vampiric Tutor, Cruel Tutor, and Grim Tutor) and some mana rocks (mana vault, mana crypt, grim monolith, the mox's, and LED) were not present, would the deck still function?
I was wondering if this deck could be played under a budget. Specifically if some of the tutors (Vampiric Tutor, Cruel Tutor, and Grim Tutor) and some mana rocks (mana vault, mana crypt, grim monolith, the mox's, and LED) were not present, would the deck still function?
honestly, it wouldnt even come close. this deck only functions because of those things, hence the list is not viable in French (duels) EDH format where those cards are banned. You need the tutors to reliably find Ad Nauseam and you need the Rocks to generate mana, up storm counts after casting Ad Nauseam, otherwise you would never be able to generate enough mana to cast 20 spells then tendrils.
Thanks for taking a boo with the deck!!
Tried lake of the dead again and honestly still not sold on the card. In regards to Retract ill agree with you that it is almost never used vs opponents so ill re-make the switch back.
honestly, it wouldnt even come close. this deck only functions because of those things, hence the list is not viable in French (duels) EDH format where those cards are banned. You need the tutors to reliably find Ad Nauseam and you need the Rocks to generate mana, up storm counts after casting Ad Nauseam, otherwise you would never be able to generate enough mana to cast 20 spells then tendrils.
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