Imo Skullbriar isn't outclassed by them per say just different. 2Cmc and haste means a lot to me. I've played all 3 and I personally like the zombie better but there are certainly advantages to the beefy Abzan legends. If I'm being perfectly honest it may just be that skullbriar is more build around and fun to play. That means a lot to me too.
Back to Sygg. Drawing cards from him off a pain land does seem sweet but it's just not reliable enough for my liking. At the end of the day I would really prefer a clock in my command zone for aggro.
Imo Skullbriar isn't outclassed by them per say just different. 2Cmc and haste means a lot to me. I've played all 3 and I personally like the zombie better but there are certainly advantages to the beefy Abzan legends. If I'm being perfectly honest it may just be that skullbriar is more build around and fun to play. That means a lot to me too.
Back to Sygg. Drawing cards from him off a pain land does seem sweet but it's just not reliable enough for my liking. At the end of the day I would really prefer a clock in my command zone for aggro.
That's fair. He doesn't pressure control opponents like Skullbriar or especially Doran does.
What is it about drana you like other than Drana herself? Is it playing mono B or is it playing aggro? Have you ever tried mbc like Skittles or Griselbrand?
What is it about drana you like other than Drana herself? Is it playing mono B or is it playing aggro? Have you ever tried mbc like Skittles or Griselbrand?
I like sui black as an archetype, and I enjoy aggressive strategies. Though, I foresee Tymaret being stronger for an aggressive shell than Drana; partly for his cmc (two is infinitely better than three), partly b/c it gives more options in reach and beater selection. Plus, the whole commander tax circumvention.
Fair enough, no offence taken. One thing I will say about discard is it's quite proactive as opposed to reactive counterspells. But I totally get it.
Right. I see the discard there. But I need to be doing more. Some kind of in-your-face smash mouth action, lol.
I have the super reactive decks like Wydwen, Nin, Clique on MODO. Combo/tempo builds like Talrand & Sygg [the later of which I retired]. No one wants to see me of all people pilot those haha. Total snoozefest decks, lol. ESPECIALLY coming from me (I don't play a (W/U) though, but if I did, it'd be Ojutai).
Well I'm late to the party. I really like what blue brings to sui black, coz if you throw in soft counters into the mix you have a pretty neat tempo to go with the aggro.
Well I'm late to the party. I really like what blue brings to sui black, coz if you throw in soft counters into the mix you have a pretty neat tempo to go with the aggro.
I wouldn't be playing U in the deck. It'd be mono-B with Sygg as a draw engine instead of Drana as a clock.
no, Sygg was trash b4 and he'll still be trash. The problem with Sygg is his ability is reliant on other cards successfully dealing damage and thus is win-more.
Back to Sygg. Drawing cards from him off a pain land does seem sweet but it's just not reliable enough for my liking. At the end of the day I would really prefer a clock in my command zone for aggro.
BChainer, Dementia Master(Big Mana/Reanimator)
BRRakdos, The Showstopper (Mass Life Loss/Ramp)
BUThe Scarab God (Zombie Tribal/Control)
BWKarlov of the Ghost Council (Life Gain)
BGJarad, Golgari Lich Lord (Stompy/Dredge)
BRGProssh, Skyraider of Kher (Tokens/Non-infinite Combo)
That's fair. He doesn't pressure control opponents like Skullbriar or especially Doran does.
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BChainer, Dementia Master(Big Mana/Reanimator)
BRRakdos, The Showstopper (Mass Life Loss/Ramp)
BUThe Scarab God (Zombie Tribal/Control)
BWKarlov of the Ghost Council (Life Gain)
BGJarad, Golgari Lich Lord (Stompy/Dredge)
BRGProssh, Skyraider of Kher (Tokens/Non-infinite Combo)
I like sui black as an archetype, and I enjoy aggressive strategies. Though, I foresee Tymaret being stronger for an aggressive shell than Drana; partly for his cmc (two is infinitely better than three), partly b/c it gives more options in reach and beater selection. Plus, the whole commander tax circumvention.
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BChainer, Dementia Master(Big Mana/Reanimator)
BRRakdos, The Showstopper (Mass Life Loss/Ramp)
BUThe Scarab God (Zombie Tribal/Control)
BWKarlov of the Ghost Council (Life Gain)
BGJarad, Golgari Lich Lord (Stompy/Dredge)
BRGProssh, Skyraider of Kher (Tokens/Non-infinite Combo)
Yeah. No offense but this isn't my style of deck. I need some aggressive deck. Need to feel like I'm proactively doing something.
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BChainer, Dementia Master(Big Mana/Reanimator)
BRRakdos, The Showstopper (Mass Life Loss/Ramp)
BUThe Scarab God (Zombie Tribal/Control)
BWKarlov of the Ghost Council (Life Gain)
BGJarad, Golgari Lich Lord (Stompy/Dredge)
BRGProssh, Skyraider of Kher (Tokens/Non-infinite Combo)
Right. I see the discard there. But I need to be doing more. Some kind of in-your-face smash mouth action, lol.
I have the super reactive decks like Wydwen, Nin, Clique on MODO. Combo/tempo builds like Talrand & Sygg [the later of which I retired]. No one wants to see me of all people pilot those haha. Total snoozefest decks, lol. ESPECIALLY coming from me (I don't play a (W/U) though, but if I did, it'd be Ojutai).
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But Ephara doesn't do anything.
No, it does nothing.
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BRRakdos, The Showstopper (Mass Life Loss/Ramp)
BUThe Scarab God (Zombie Tribal/Control)
BWKarlov of the Ghost Council (Life Gain)
BGJarad, Golgari Lich Lord (Stompy/Dredge)
BRGProssh, Skyraider of Kher (Tokens/Non-infinite Combo)
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I wouldn't be playing U in the deck. It'd be mono-B with Sygg as a draw engine instead of Drana as a clock.
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BRRakdos, The Showstopper (Mass Life Loss/Ramp)
BUThe Scarab God (Zombie Tribal/Control)
BWKarlov of the Ghost Council (Life Gain)
BGJarad, Golgari Lich Lord (Stompy/Dredge)
BRGProssh, Skyraider of Kher (Tokens/Non-infinite Combo)
Sui black traditionally has always been terrible vs R. But really I do not know how much I would play this in a 20 life format.
All of our effects, i.e. Flesh Reaver.
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BRRakdos, The Showstopper (Mass Life Loss/Ramp)
BUThe Scarab God (Zombie Tribal/Control)
BWKarlov of the Ghost Council (Life Gain)
BGJarad, Golgari Lich Lord (Stompy/Dredge)
BRGProssh, Skyraider of Kher (Tokens/Non-infinite Combo)
Well then maybe sygg dimir aggro/disrupt/tempo can do better at 20..? Man I just know nothing about blue so I'm talking out of my ass lol
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BRRakdos, The Showstopper (Mass Life Loss/Ramp)
BUThe Scarab God (Zombie Tribal/Control)
BWKarlov of the Ghost Council (Life Gain)
BGJarad, Golgari Lich Lord (Stompy/Dredge)
BRGProssh, Skyraider of Kher (Tokens/Non-infinite Combo)
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