Especially in zoo, I really can't describe how nuts this in. Also getting more counters on Marath seems viable. I thought it wasn't worth a slot at 3 mana for a long time, but after testing I can honestly say... This card is dumb. You should really give it a try. Remember, it scales with how many creatures you're attacking with, not just 1 trigger for all, so each dude that you swing with gets bigger.
And I didn't see Survival of the Fittest in your list, that seems really good in a green creature based deck?
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Deck comparison!
I'm reposting the top 8 Marath from last week and French Cup is nice enough to post the top 20ish deck which includes 3 Maraths... This way, we can compare notes on what's wrong with each decks. So far, we only have zoos that's been participating in the tourney.
@ Renn2be: the way I see it, I prefer using Jitte or the swords. At least it gives marath some protection against bigger threats. On turn 1 or turn 2 with Steelshaper's Gift, you would grab Jitte or Collar? For me, I would choose Jitte. Against the rising star Deveri, it's a nice pinger to her 1/1's.
@ Feverous: i've added last week and only goldfishing it. So far, I'm impressed by the fact that I can actually swing with the 1/1's... namely the 6ish 1 turn mana dorks which turns them into 2/2's. Despite it didn't do anything else, it actually creates a threat to the opponent if you're using Predator. Sadly, I have to drop something to make space for it.
Especially in zoo, I really can't describe how nuts this in. Also getting more counters on Marath seems viable. I thought it wasn't worth a slot at 3 mana for a long time, but after testing I can honestly say... This card is dumb. You should really give it a try. Remember, it scales with how many creatures you're attacking with, not just 1 trigger for all, so each dude that you swing with gets bigger.
Holy crap, I did not realize it worked like that. Wizards went out of their way to make all the other curses not scale like that so I assumed Predation was just a Gavony Township every combat. This is insane.
Edit: Does not work the way I thought it does. Still decent though.
I'm currently done with Hell week and just playing with my MW... going to play Marath like crazy to caught up with the meta :3
@ApocryphaEffect: I like Ajani in there. It messed with their untap step (except for Deveri) but Lightning Helix is awesome if you're using cheap zoo and hit him hard and early (with combination of PoP and Marath's pingers).
@Feverous: I have Survival in my current list. You probably see the BoM's Marath.
Why no Opal Palace? Put in some more dorks, and cash in with combo's like Bell Ringer / Resto Angel / Zealous Conscripts - Kiki Jiki / Splinter Twin?
Depends on the build actually. I've posted the French Cup Marath list to provide the difference on why Laury's deck is lucky enough to survive over 100+ players. Some deck are using the combo but if you're planning to be competitive, what's wrong with the posted French Cup decks which is on the top 20 rather than top 10... the top 20 do run some combos that you listed.
I also like Sigil captain included ...
For Sigil Captain... it'll be better off if you're also running other than dorks and Marath's elemental. You also have to consider his cmc which is a 3/3 for 4 even with Dorks.
i want to explore a more tokener build as well, one with glare of subdual red and white Hero's
for 1v1 i also would include parallax wave...a fetchable via Enlightened 1 sided board wipe
As for Parallax Wave, how's that going with your build? It's a permanent boardwipe if you're using some Naturalize to it.
I'm currently done with Hell week and just playing with my MW... going to play Marath like crazy to caught up with the meta :3
For Sigil Captain... it'll be better off if you're also running other than dorks and Marath's elemental. You also have to consider his cmc which is a 3/3 for 4 even with Dorks.
As for Parallax Wave, how's that going with your build? It's a permanent boardwipe if you're using some Naturalize to it.
I guess the Sigil is for utility mid game for the saprolings and all the 1/1 manadorks I am planning to add
The Wave is just for evasion, going for the kill sorta thing when youre out there swinging, like lets say VS Doran
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Right now, its current trend are the new bosses such as Prossh, somewhat Oloro and annoying Deveri... there's also the classic Animar, MW, Radha, Jenara, Zur, Iname and stuff.
The build that I have the most trouble with against Marath with Prossh is the midrange/goodstuff build. It seems to consistently get Gaea's Cradle out against me and when that happens it's gg for me. The lists that I've seen like that are a bit more heavy on the planeswalkers and are curving out @ 7 to include Elesh Norn and Prime Time. It's a really tough list for me to beat, I have a much easier matchup against straight aggro or zoo.
Lol. It happens. I know midrange have a higher chance, I'm more curious about the zoo archetype. Which leads me to conclusion that zoo can do so much in the meta and midrange is good to go.
Awesome... Are you using zoo or midrange? Who're your opponents?
I defeated Zur twice last night from 2 different players using zoo... One is outracing each other (kessig helps and I'm down to 2), the other (TeegxThalia lock), really really big Marath and one rage quit when I dropped Prime Time saying that it's banned.
Awesome... Are you using zoo or midrange? Who're your opponents?
I defeated Zur twice last night from 2 different players using zoo... One is outracing each other (kessig helps and I'm down to 2), the other (TeegxThalia lock), really really big Marath and one rage quit when I dropped Prime Time saying that it's banned.
Rofl. Nothing makes my day more than making a zur player rage quit. Excellent work ^.^
Well, I didn't know them that much... I doubt that I'll have the same luck. Flame Tongue, O-Ring guys, Flame Slash and friends are awesome against him. I need to put Combust back in since I missed it. Although, Cataclysm on turn 4 (if they drop a rock)-5 (after a regular Zur drop) is bit annoying. But that's my zoo experience.
As consolation, my match with Geist from last night is also as awesome (2 different players as well). He can't counter his way unless he wants to counter a crappy card... ie I cast Fleecemane Lion and he wasted FoW on it then I cast Thalia... which he cast Remand it but he's down to 1 card.
Even with Midrange, it's good to have 1cmc manadorks (usually 6 in a deck) so that you're guaranteed a turn 3 Marath. If you cast Marath before or after they cast Geist... they can't do anything unless they use Angelic Destiny on it. On a regular basis, they can't attack you because you have something bigger.... they'd rather use Wrath of God. You can even use your 1/1's to swing and pray that they'll blocked it with Geist.
Been busy for a while. Decided to go to Midrange strategy (Zoo is doing ok except that it lacks the pricy cards). Lyserg is the one who helped me filling the gaps (originally going for ramps and the card list are "almost"-ish the same).
Took me a few games before getting use midrange. Lost some games (Oloro, Dev, Doran, and Thrax) because I forgot some of the essential cards (like Bloodbraid Elf... or Aven Mindcensor.
Realized that having all 6 nonrestrictive 1cmc dorks is a lot better than 5 and making sure you'll have turn 3 Marath. Didn't go with Lion's Eye Diamond+Auriok Salvagers because it's easy to disrupt (dropped Grand Abolisher)... might thinking of putting those cards back again because no one will expect those.
Have you considered playing Earthcraft? It's not that hard to find a basic out of those fetch lands.
And It's good by itself and especially good with Marath as you can get a bunch of "Elemental Birds-of-Paradise-like".
It's like:
Cast Marath,
Tap it for mana,
Get a token,
Tap it for mana,
Get a token,
Tap it for mana,
Get a token... And so on
It's not infinite but i guess it's good enought.
Steelshaper's Gift
I would run over Enlightened Tutor (but honestly i would run both) as i am amost aways looking for an equipment (read skullclamp).
Mana Echoes
I love this card so much cause i've played Sliver Queen for a while, but i'm not sure it's good in here, maybe some testing would do it?
Thanks and good luck!
Also, you listed Weathered Wayfarer as one of your 4-drops.
Whenever I see a Naya/GR zoo deck my hope are that they will add Grove of the Burnwillows\Punishing Fire combo. Is it just too slow for the Aggro/midrange builds?
Yo, I'm on a card kick, and I actually think it'll fit really well in your deck. It's been nuts in both my Skullbriar and my Prossh lists...
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Especially in zoo, I really can't describe how nuts this in. Also getting more counters on Marath seems viable. I thought it wasn't worth a slot at 3 mana for a long time, but after testing I can honestly say... This card is dumb. You should really give it a try. Remember, it scales with how many creatures you're attacking with, not just 1 trigger for all, so each dude that you swing with gets bigger.
And I didn't see Survival of the Fittest in your list, that seems really good in a green creature based deck?
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Deck comparison!
I'm reposting the top 8 Marath from last week and French Cup is nice enough to post the top 20ish deck which includes 3 Maraths... This way, we can compare notes on what's wrong with each decks. So far, we only have zoos that's been participating in the tourney.
5-8/107th Place
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1 Marath, Will of the Wild
Creatures:36
0
1x Dryad Arbor
1
1x Arbor Elf
1x Avacyn's Pilgrim
1x Birds of Paradise
1x Elvish Mystic
1x Fyndhorn Elves
1x Llanowar Elves
1x Mother of Runes
2
1x Gyre Sage
1x Lotus Cobra
1x Smokebraider
1x Fauna Shaman
1x Gaea's Herald
1x Grand Abolisher
1x Phyrexian Revoker
1x Qasali Pridemage
1x Saffi Eriksdotter
1x Scavenging Ooze
1x Skylasher
1x Stoneforge Mystic
1x Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
1x Vexing Shusher
1x Voice of Resurgence
3
1x Aven Mindcensor
1x Eternal Witness
1x Great Sable Stag
1x Knight of the Reliquary
1x Loxodon Smiter
1x Mirran Crusader
4
1x Bloodbraid Elf
1x Flametongue Kavu
1x Huntmaster of the Fells
1x Restoration Angel
1x Thrun, the Last Troll
1x Inferno Titan
1x Primeval Titan
Sorcery:3
1x Flame Slash
1x Green Sun's Zenith
1x Steelshaper's Gift
Instant:7
1x Eladamri's Call
1x Krosan Grip
1x Natural Order
1x Nature's Claim
1x Path to Exile
1x Swords to Plowshares
1x Wear
Enchantments:1
1x Sylvan Library
Artifacts:7
1x Birthing Pod
1x Expedition Map
1x Pithing Needle
1x Skullclamp
1x Sword of Feast and Famine
1x Sword of Fire and Ice
1x Umezawa's Jitte
Planeswalkers:7
1x Ajani, Caller of the Pride
1x Domri Rade
1x Elspeth, Knight-Errant
1x Garruk Wildspeaker
1x Garruk, Primal Hunter
1x Sarkhan Vol
1x Xenagos, the Reveler
Lands:38
1x Forest
1x Plains
1x Plateau
1x Sacred Foundry
1x Savannah
1x Stomping Ground
1x Taiga
1x Temple Garden
1x Bloodstained Mire
1x Flooded Strand
1x Marsh Flats
1x Misty Rainforest
1x Scalding Tarn
1x Windswept Heath
1x Wooded Foothills
1x Verdant Catacombs
1x Fire-Lit Thicket
1x Rugged Prairie
1x Wooded Bastion
1x Cavern of Souls
1x Command Tower
1x Reflecting Pool
1x Copperline Gorge
1x Razorverge Thicket
1x Raging Ravine
1x Stirring Wildwood
1x Treetop Village
1x Rootbound Crag
1x Sunpetal Grove
1x Gaea's Cradle
1x Grove of the Burnwillows
1x Horizon Canopy
1x Kessig Wolf Run
1x Rishadan Port
1x Tectonic Edge
1x Wasteland
1x Maze of Ith
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11/124th Place
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Creatures:40
0
1 Dryad Arbor
1
1 Avacyn's Pilgrim
1 Birds of Paradise
1 Elvish Mystic
1 Fyndhorn Elves
1 Llanowar Elves
1 Experiment One
1 Grim Lavamancer
1 Mother of Runes
1 Ulvenwald Tracker
1 Wild Nacatl
2
1 Bloom Tender
1 Devoted Druid
1 Lotus Cobra
1 Fleecemane Lion
1 Gaddock Teeg
1 Grand Abolisher
1 Qasali Pridemage
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Stoneforge Mystic
1 Tarmogoyf
1 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
1 Voice of Resurgence
3
1 Aven Mindcensor
1 Eternal Witness
1 Fiend Hunter
1 Great Sable Stag
1 Kitchen Finks
1 Knight of the Reliquary
1 Loxodon Smiter
1 Vithian Renegades
1 Flametongue Kavu
1 Linvala, Keeper of Silence
1 Ranger of Eos
1 Vengevine
5
1 Acidic Slime
1 Karmic Guide
1 Zealous Conscripts
6
1 Inferno Titan
1 Primeval Titan
7
1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
Sorcery:4
1 Green Sun's Zenith
1 Mizzium Mortars
1 Natural Order
1 Steelshaper's Gift
Instants:7
1 Boros Charm
1 Eladamri's Call
1 Enlightened Tutor
1 Lightning Bolt
1 Nature's Claim
1 Path to Exile
1 Swords to Plowshares
Enchantments:4
1 Journey to Nowhere
1 Oblivion Ring
1 Survival of the Fittest
1 Sylvan Library
Artifacts:5
1 Birthing Pod
1 Skullclamp
1 Sword of Feast and Famine
1 Sword of Fire and Ice
1 Umezawa's Jitte
Planeswalkers:1
1 Xenagos, the Reveler
Lands:37
1 Arid Mesa
1 Battlefield Forge
1 Bloodstained Mire
1 Brushland
1 City of Brass
1 Clifftop Retreat
1 Command Tower
1 Fire-Lit Thicket
1 Flooded Strand
2 Forest
1 Gaea's Cradle
1 Gavony Township
1 Homeward Path
1 Horizon Canopy
1 Karplusan Forest
1 Marsh Flats
1 Misty Rainforest
1 Pendelhaven
2 Plains
1 Plateau
1 Rootbound Crag
1 Rugged Prairie
1 Sacred Foundry
1 Savannah
1 Scalding Tarn
1 Stirring Wildwood
1 Stomping Ground
1 Sunpetal Grove
1 Taiga
1 Temple Garden
1 Verdant Catacombs
1 Wasteland
1 Windswept Heath
1 Wooded Bastion
1 Wooded Foothills
18/124th Place
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1 Marath, Will of the Wild
Creatures:38
0
1 Dryad Arbor
1
1 Arbor Elf
1 Avacyn's Pilgrim
1 Birds of Paradise
1 Elvish Mystic
1 Fyndhorn Elves
1 Llanowar Elves
1 Mother of Runes
1 Weathered Wayfarer
2
1 Bloom Tender
1 Gyre Sage
1 Lotus Cobra
1 Priest of Titania
1 Fauna Shaman
1 Gaddock Teeg
1 Grand Abolisher
1 Nightshade Peddler
1 Qasali Pridemage
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Stoneforge Mystic
1 Voice of Resurgence
3
1 Aven Mindcensor
1 Dauntless Escort
1 Eternal Witness
1 Harmonic Sliver
1 Imperial Recruiter
1 Knight of the Reliquary
1 Spike Feeder
4
1 Bloodbraid Elf
1 Flametongue Kavu
1 Huntmaster of the Fells
1 Oracle of Mul Daya
1 Restoration Angel
1 Archangel of Thune
1 Karmic Guide
1 Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
1 Reveillark
1 Zealous Conscripts
6
1 Primeval Titan
Sorcery:3
1 Enlightened Tutor
1 Green Sun's Zenith
1 Steelshaper's Gift
Instants:5
1 Boros Charm
1 Chord of Calling
1 Eladamri's Call
1 Path to Exile
1 Swords to Plowshares
Enchantments:3
1 Aura Shards
1 Survival of the Fittest
1 Sylvan Library
Artifacts:4
1 Basilisk Collar
1 Birthing Pod
1 Skullclamp
1 Sword of Feast and Famine
Planeswalkers:6
1 Ajani Vengeant
1 Chandra, Pyromaster
1 Domri Rade
1 Garruk Wildspeaker
1 Garruk, Caller of Beasts
1 Xenagos, the Reveler
Lands
1 Arid Mesa
1 Battlefield Forge
1 Bloodstained Mire
1 Brushland
1 City of Brass
1 Clifftop Retreat
1 Command Tower
1 Fire-Lit Thicket
1 Flooded Strand
2 Forest
1 Gaea's Cradle
1 Gavony Township
1 Grove of the Burnwillows
1 Homeward Path
1 Horizon Canopy
1 Karplusan Forest
1 Marsh Flats
1 Misty Rainforest
1 Mountain
1 Plains
1 Plateau
1 Raging Ravine
1 Reflecting Pool
1 Rootbound Crag
1 Rugged Prairie
1 Sacred Foundry
1 Savannah
1 Scalding Tarn
1 Stirring Wildwood
1 Stomping Ground
1 Sunpetal Grove
1 Taiga
1 Temple Garden
1 Verdant Catacombs
1 Wasteland
1 Windswept Heath
1 Wooded Bastion
1 Wooded Foothills
20/124th Place
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1 Marath, Will of the Wild
Creatures:37
0
1 Dryad Arbor
1
1 Arbor Elf
1 Avacyn's Pilgrim
1 Birds of Paradise
1 Elvish Mystic
1 Fyndhorn Elves
1 Llanowar Elves
1 Grim Lavamancer
1 Mother of Runes
1 Ulvenwald Tracker
1 Weathered Wayfarer
2
1 Bloom Tender
1 Lotus Cobra
1 Radha, Heir to Keld
1 Fauna Shaman
1 Gaddock Teeg
1 Phyrexian Revoker
1 Qasali Pridemage
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Stoneforge Mystic
1 Voice of Resurgence
3
1 Aven Mindcensor
1 Banisher Priest
1 Eternal Witness
1 Fire Imp
1 Harmonic Sliver
1 Knight of the Reliquary
1 Mirror Entity
1 Silverblade Paladin
1 Vithian Renegades
4
1 Bloodbraid Elf
1 Flametongue Kavu
1 Huntmaster of the Fells
1 Linvala, Keeper of Silence
1 Acidic Slime
1 Reveillark
6
1 Primeval Titan
1 Sun Titan
Sorcery:4
1 Flame Slash
1 Green Sun's Zenith
1 Mizzium Mortars
1 Steelshaper's Gift
Instants:7
1 Char
1 Combust
1 Crop Rotation
1 Eladamri's Call
1 Parch
1 Swords to Plowshares
1 Wear
Enchantments:3
1 Oblivion Ring
1 Survival of the Fittest
1 Sylvan Library
Artifacts:5
1 Birthing Pod
1 Skullclamp
1 Sword of Feast and Famine
1 Sword of Fire and Ice
1 Umezawa's Jitte
Planeswalkers:4
1 Ajani Vengeant
1 Domri Rade
1 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
1 Xenagos, the Reveler
Lands
1 Arid Mesa
1 Battlefield Forge
1 Bloodstained Mire
1 Brushland
1 City of Brass
1 Clifftop Retreat
1 Command Tower
1 Copperline Gorge
1 Fire-Lit Thicket
1 Flagstones of Trokair
1 Flooded Strand
1 Forest
1 Gaea's Cradle
1 Gavony Township
1 Homeward Path
1 Horizon Canopy
1 Karplusan Forest
1 Kessig Wolf Run
1 Marsh Flats
1 Misty Rainforest
1 Plains
1 Plateau
1 Raging Ravine
1 Razorverge Thicket
1 Rootbound Crag
1 Rugged Prairie
1 Sacred Foundry
1 Savannah
1 Scalding Tarn
1 Stomping Ground
1 Sunpetal Grove
1 Taiga
1 Temple Garden
1 Verdant Catacombs
1 Wasteland
1 Windswept Heath
1 Wooded Bastion
1 Wooded Foothills
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@ Renn2be: the way I see it, I prefer using Jitte or the swords. At least it gives marath some protection against bigger threats. On turn 1 or turn 2 with Steelshaper's Gift, you would grab Jitte or Collar? For me, I would choose Jitte. Against the rising star Deveri, it's a nice pinger to her 1/1's.
@ Feverous: i've added last week and only goldfishing it. So far, I'm impressed by the fact that I can actually swing with the 1/1's... namely the 6ish 1 turn mana dorks which turns them into 2/2's. Despite it didn't do anything else, it actually creates a threat to the opponent if you're using Predator. Sadly, I have to drop something to make space for it.
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Holy crap, I did not realize it worked like that. Wizards went out of their way to make all the other curses not scale like that so I assumed Predation was just a Gavony Township every combat. This is insane.
Edit: Does not work the way I thought it does. Still decent though.
I also like Sigil captain included ...
i want to explore a more tokener build as well, one with glare of subdual red and white Hero's
for 1v1 i also would include parallax wave...a fetchable via Enlightened 1 sided board wipe
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@ApocryphaEffect: I like Ajani in there. It messed with their untap step (except for Deveri) but Lightning Helix is awesome if you're using cheap zoo and hit him hard and early (with combination of PoP and Marath's pingers).
@Feverous: I have Survival in my current list. You probably see the BoM's Marath.
Depends on the build actually. I've posted the French Cup Marath list to provide the difference on why Laury's deck is lucky enough to survive over 100+ players. Some deck are using the combo but if you're planning to be competitive, what's wrong with the posted French Cup decks which is on the top 20 rather than top 10... the top 20 do run some combos that you listed.
For Sigil Captain... it'll be better off if you're also running other than dorks and Marath's elemental. You also have to consider his cmc which is a 3/3 for 4 even with Dorks.
As for Parallax Wave, how's that going with your build? It's a permanent boardwipe if you're using some Naturalize to it.
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I guess the Sigil is for utility mid game for the saprolings and all the 1/1 manadorks I am planning to add
The Wave is just for evasion, going for the kill sorta thing when youre out there swinging, like lets say VS Doran
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Not really convince with it. Unless you're planning to do midrange
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Right now, its current trend are the new bosses such as Prossh, somewhat Oloro and annoying Deveri... there's also the classic Animar, MW, Radha, Jenara, Zur, Iname and stuff.
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What exactly is difficult about the match up?
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Could not beat Geist.. just shut me down
Whomped on Zur.... making 1/1's against zur is a problem for him
came in 8th out of 17
I defeated Zur twice last night from 2 different players using zoo... One is outracing each other (kessig helps and I'm down to 2), the other (TeegxThalia lock), really really big Marath and one rage quit when I dropped Prime Time saying that it's banned.
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RGWMarath, Will of the WildRGW
BRXMogis, God of SlaughterBRX
RWxIoras, God of VictoryRWx
WBxAthreos, God of PassageWBx
Created By: DarkNightCavalier
Rofl. Nothing makes my day more than making a zur player rage quit. Excellent work ^.^
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As consolation, my match with Geist from last night is also as awesome (2 different players as well). He can't counter his way unless he wants to counter a crappy card... ie I cast Fleecemane Lion and he wasted FoW on it then I cast Thalia... which he cast Remand it but he's down to 1 card.
Even with Midrange, it's good to have 1cmc manadorks (usually 6 in a deck) so that you're guaranteed a turn 3 Marath. If you cast Marath before or after they cast Geist... they can't do anything unless they use Angelic Destiny on it. On a regular basis, they can't attack you because you have something bigger.... they'd rather use Wrath of God. You can even use your 1/1's to swing and pray that they'll blocked it with Geist.
I'm curious about your build.
Duel Commander
URG [Primer] Maelstrom Wanderer [Primer] URG
Duel Commander Current Projects:
RGWMarath, Will of the WildRGW
BRXMogis, God of SlaughterBRX
RWxIoras, God of VictoryRWx
WBxAthreos, God of PassageWBx
Created By: DarkNightCavalier
Been busy for a while. Decided to go to Midrange strategy (Zoo is doing ok except that it lacks the pricy cards). Lyserg is the one who helped me filling the gaps (originally going for ramps and the card list are "almost"-ish the same).
Took me a few games before getting use midrange. Lost some games (Oloro, Dev, Doran, and Thrax) because I forgot some of the essential cards (like Bloodbraid Elf... or Aven Mindcensor.
Realized that having all 6 nonrestrictive 1cmc dorks is a lot better than 5 and making sure you'll have turn 3 Marath. Didn't go with Lion's Eye Diamond+Auriok Salvagers because it's easy to disrupt (dropped Grand Abolisher)... might thinking of putting those cards back again because no one will expect those.
1x Marath, Will of the Wild
Creatures:39
0
1x Dryad Arbor
1
1x Arbor Elf
1x Avacyn's Pilgrim
1x Birds of Paradise
1x Elvish Mystic
1x Fyndhorn Elves
1x Llanowar Elves
1x Mother of Runes
2
1x Bloom Tender
1x Gyre Sage
1x Lotus Cobra
1x Priest of Titania
1x Fauna Shaman
1x Gaddock Teeg
1x Nightshade Peddler
1x Stoneforge Mystic
1x Voice of Resurgence
3
1x Aven Mindcensor
1x Eternal Witness
1x Fiend Hunter
1x Harmonic Sliver
1x Imperial Recruiter
1x Knight of the Reliquary
1x Mentor of the Meek
1x Mirror Entity
1x Spike Feeder
4
1x Bloodbraid Elf
1x Flametongue Kavu
1x Linvala, Keeper of Silence
1x Purphoros, God of the Forge
1x Restoration Angel
1x Weathered Wayfarer
1x Wickerbough Elder
1x Archangel of Thune
1x Karmic Guide
1x Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
1x Reveillark
1x Zealous Conscripts
6
1x Primeval Titan
Sorcery:3
1x Fiery Justice
1x Green Sun's Zenith
1x Natural Order
Instant:7
1x Chord of Calling
1x Eladamri's Call
1x Enlightened Tutor
1x Nature's Claim
1x Path to Exile
1x Swords to Plowshares
1x Wear//Tear
Enchantments:3
1x Aura Shards
1x Survival of the Fittest
1x Sylvan Library
Artifacts:5
1x Basilisk Collar
1x Birthing Pod
1x Skullclamp
1x Sword of Feast and Famine
1x Sword of Fire and Ice
Planeswalkers:4
1x Domri Rade
1x Garruk Wildspeaker
1x Garruk, Primal Hunter
1x Xenagos, the Reveler
Lands:38
3x Snow-Covered Forest
2x Snow-Covered Plains
1x Plateau
1x Sacred Foundry
1x Savannah
1x Stomping Ground
1x Taiga
1x Temple Garden
1x Bloodstained Mire
1x Flooded Strand
1x Marsh Flats
1x Misty Rainforest
1x Scalding Tarn
1x Verdant Catacombs
1x Windswept Heath
1x Wooded Foothills
1x Brushland
1x Horizon Canopy
1x Karplusan Forest
1x Clifftop Retreat
1x Rootbound Crag
1x Sunpetal Grove
1x Raging Ravine
1x Stirring Wildwood
1x Rugged Prairie
1x Wooded Bastion
1x Copperline Gorge
1x Razorverge Thicket
1x Cavern of Souls
1x Command Tower
1x Gaea's Cradle
1x Gavony Township
1x Kessig Wolf Run
1x Wasteland
Duel Commander
URG [Primer] Maelstrom Wanderer [Primer] URG
Duel Commander Current Projects:
RGWMarath, Will of the WildRGW
BRXMogis, God of SlaughterBRX
RWxIoras, God of VictoryRWx
WBxAthreos, God of PassageWBx
Created By: DarkNightCavalier
Have you considered playing Earthcraft? It's not that hard to find a basic out of those fetch lands.
And It's good by itself and especially good with Marath as you can get a bunch of "Elemental Birds-of-Paradise-like".
It's like:
Cast Marath,
Tap it for mana,
Get a token,
Tap it for mana,
Get a token,
Tap it for mana,
Get a token... And so on
It's not infinite but i guess it's good enought.
Steelshaper's Gift
I would run over Enlightened Tutor (but honestly i would run both) as i am amost aways looking for an equipment (read skullclamp).
Mana Echoes
I love this card so much cause i've played Sliver Queen for a while, but i'm not sure it's good in here, maybe some testing would do it?
Thanks and good luck!
Also, you listed Weathered Wayfarer as one of your 4-drops.
Thank you so much mchief111 for the amazing art!
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